New Bike Ideas ????

[mangocrazy]

Got a reply from geezer I bought the GasGas enduro from

I have a good option for you for two almost new of these bikes. We have two DEMOs from last year. Very low mileage. We have a DEMO GG SM700 2022 with 5.000kms. aprox. We are putting new tyres this week. Also a DEMO Husqvarna 701 SM 2022 only 3.000kms. No accidents, fully revised and two more years warranty for both. Price would be 9.000,00€ for the GG and 9.500,00€ for the Husqvarna.



Prices for new MY2023 bikes are 11.299€ for HQV and KTM, and 10.925,00€ for the GG. That´s about a 2.000,00€ lower price for very low use

I reckon that one of those will do the job you want it for. You'll be surprised at just how eager to rev that 690 motor is. It's a world away from old Brit single cylinder bikes. This is the dyno trace for my Duke 690 R:

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[Yorick]

I forgot that my pal with the V twin Panigale bought a big Ducati Hypermotard. He told me he's selling it, so offered me a demo ride.
Gave him a pack of beer and the bike was mine for the evening. On way to petrol station it was shite and felt like the front tyre was flat.

Called at my gaff and both tyres were way down. Pumped them up and set off to destroy the full tank of fuel. Headed off into the hills for the fun bendy bits. After about 15 minutes, I turned back as I was hating it.

Power was only steady. When it seemed to be getting going, it ran out of puff.
Low down grunt was disappointing, but maybe I've been spoilt by the GSXR1000
Brakes were OK
Gearbox was agricultural.
Steering at low speed was dreadful. I thought the S.U.A.B. riding position and high bars would be a hoot. Had both feet down at junctions.
Suspension was very comfortable
Above 80 was shit. Too windy.


I was honest with my pal and he said when he was riding it back from Tenerife, he felt the same thing and wondered if he'd made a big mistake. It grew on him and now loves it, but I'm not willing to take that gamble

I nearly crashed it on my roundabout coz tyre was so flat
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[weeksy]

You're gonna hate a 690/701 then matey. They're an acquired taste for sure and I'm not convinced you're the person for it.
I'd be really curious to hear a review of you though if you go to try one.
Me, I'm a massive fan. But as I said, I preferred my Duke to the smcr.

[Yorick]

You're gonna hate a 690/701 then matey. They're an acquired taste for sure and I'm not convinced you're the person for it.
I'd be really curious to hear a review of you though if you go to try one.
Me, I'm a massive fan. But as I said, I preferred my Duke to the smcr.

Seriously I'd love a road version of my GasGas 300. Like the foot down malarkey on bends

Gonna fly over to G.C. and try the SM700

[Taipan]

You're gonna hate a 690/701 then matey. They're an acquired taste for sure and I'm not convinced you're the person for it.
I'd be really curious to hear a review of you though if you go to try one.
Me, I'm a massive fan. But as I said, I preferred my Duke to the smcr.

What Weeksy said! My Hyper reminds me of my 690 Duke in a lot of ways.

TBH mate, I think you've had too many GSXRs and not enough experience of other bikes. Motards in any guise are pretty focused, or task specific, bikes. Comparing them in any way to a 1000cc faired superbike is about as far apart as an apple and orange can be!

[Yorick]

You're gonna hate a 690/701 then matey. They're an acquired taste for sure and I'm not convinced you're the person for it.
I'd be really curious to hear a review of you though if you go to try one.
Me, I'm a massive fan. But as I said, I preferred my Duke to the smcr.

What Weeksy said! My Hyper reminds me of my 690 Duke in a lot of ways.

TBH mate, I think you've had too many GSXRs and not enough experience of other bikes. Motards in any guise are pretty focused, or task specific, bikes. Comparing them in any way to a 1000cc faired superbike is about as far apart as an apple and orange can be!

I want it to be closer to my GasGas 300.
And miles away from the GSXR

[Taipan]

You're gonna hate a 690/701 then matey. They're an acquired taste for sure and I'm not convinced you're the person for it.
I'd be really curious to hear a review of you though if you go to try one.
Me, I'm a massive fan. But as I said, I preferred my Duke to the smcr.

What Weeksy said! My Hyper reminds me of my 690 Duke in a lot of ways.

TBH mate, I think you've had too many GSXRs and not enough experience of other bikes. Motards in any guise are pretty focused, or task specific, bikes. Comparing them in any way to a 1000cc faired superbike is about as far apart as an apple and orange can be!

I want it to be closer to my GasGas 300.
And miles away from the GSXR

Be interested in what you think of a sm700. I cant see you liking it in any way tbh?

[Yorick]

I want the SM700 to be a bigger version of my EC300

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[Skub]

Buy an old classic,something like a 70s GT750.

[Taipan]

I want the SM700 to be a bigger version of my EC300

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Get some 17" wheels for it?

[Yorick]

Buy an old classic,something like a 70s GT750.

I had one in the 70s

[Yorick]

I want the SM700 to be a bigger version of my EC300

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Get some 17" wheels for it?

I've seen a set for a grand. Tempting.

[Taipan]

I want the SM700 to be a bigger version of my EC300

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Get some 17" wheels for it?

I've seen a set for a grand. Tempting.

Bit of a pain swapping them out each time, but a lot better than the cost of another bike I suppose?

[Yorick]

Get some 17" wheels for it?

I've seen a set for a grand. Tempting.

Bit of a pain swapping them out each time, but a lot better than the cost of another bike I suppose?

The brakes aren't quite up to fast road speeds.

[Yorick]

One thing I found annoying.
I couldn't tell what gear I was in.
On the GSXR and the Husky and GasGas I can tell instinctively by the exhaust note.
The Ducati is flat note and I got lost

Dropped down too many gears sometimes

[weeksy]

I've seen a set for a grand. Tempting.

Bit of a pain swapping them out each time, but a lot better than the cost of another bike I suppose?

The brakes aren't quite up to fast road speeds.

This is why you're not going to get on with them

You want the speed, thrill and excitement. But you also don't.
Nothing will brake like a 1000 jap bike on massive calipers and discs. Nothing will pull like one either, or cruise like one.

You have to accept it's like the difference between beer and cider. The only thing is they have an engine and wheels. Apart from that they're different. It's a different brain, mindset, attitude. Just totally different way of riding and experiencing it.

[Supermofo]

That was my first thoughts from your comments, you won't like a 690. Compared to the GSXS the 690 has no power/pull, let alone a GSXR. The 690 comparison is to things like MT07s etc performance wise. In terms of speed whilst they will do 120mph realistically it's all about sub 80mph and at 80 mph it's like riding a block of flats into a headwind. But like Weeksy I love them, but I think it's a mindset. My riding on it was all small nadgery B-roads where 80 mph is a max on most bikes. On ride outs with mates on those roads the 690 was fine but on fast flowing A roads it wasn't in its happy place. As an example when riding to work etc on the A414 I'd speed up for the roundabouts and then shut off and sit there at 70mph cos there wasn't a point ragging it to do 85-90 and being uncomfy with the engine at higher revs. The brakes on the standard 690 aren't great either, not sure on the SMC/GasGas. They were radial Brembo but they needed a proper tug, the GSXS brakes in comparison are a brick wall.

Still try one if you can though but it doesn't sounds like from your comments you'll like it.

[ChrisW]

If you want something in-between the GasGas and the GSXR for nipping to the shops & a quick spin etc. then a 690/700/701 probably is that bike but you'd never like one if you're comparing it to the other two.

If I was in your position I'd buy one anyway and give it a chance for a while. You'll either grow to love it or lose not that much money when you sell it

[Yorick]

I do want a bike to just potter about on. The speed limits here are pretty low and frustrating sometimes on the GSXR1000.
But it's still awesome when we go over to Fuertaventura

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

The brakes on a supermoto should be better than those on a superbike, my Husky had the best front brake of any bike I've ridden, it was half a 916 setup, with less weight and a lot less power, also helped by very good forks and a very sticky front tyre (shame the engine self destructed)

Riding a supermoto should be like riding an MX bike on tarmac tyres, if it isn't, then it's not a supermoto.
I used to use my Husky for trail riding in the dry, because it was just a trail bike with stiff suspension, small wheels and very good brakes, you could use your Gas Gas off road with 17" wheels, the rear makes no difference, and you just need to learn to avoid big holes with the front (or wheelie over them)