World's Strongest Man at Donington.

[Yorick]

I know nothing about track days or Eddie Hall come to that but I enjoyed the video and Eddie's honesty.

After he won the World's Strongest Man competition, he was first man to deadline 500 Kgs. Half a ton

[Taipan]

I know nothing about track days or Eddie Hall come to that but I enjoyed the video and Eddie's honesty.

After he won the World's Strongest Man competition, he was first man to deadline 500 Kgs. Half a ton

I just watched a video of his top 5 wins! Then I watched him rolling up (literally) a frying pan on the morning show with Phil & Holly. he said after that dead lift he had concussion symptoms for weeks, Forgot his wifes name etc!

[westers151]

He ain't gonna fit on a Gixer 1k though, I can barely fit on one and I'm a twig compared to him, maybe that's why he rides one?

On that criteria, any bike that you can fit on makes a good track bike if all you want to do is ride around a track with no real ambitions of trying to develop and go faster. However, if you want to develop and go faster, there comes a point when the bike is either holding you back, or not the best thing available to help you get better.

As has been pointed out, a Hayabusa can be made to go around a track at a reasonable pace, but this is by someone who is in the top 5% of bike racers. He's already learnt how to go fast, so the 'busa will be holding him back, and certainly not helping him to develop. He'll also be using all his skills to compensate for the limitations of the bike on track.

There comes a point when you need to get a bike that is a much better proposition as a track based bike, something who's limitations will be way beyond your current skills and as such allows you to develop before having to worry about reaching and riding around said limitations.

Whether you can fit on the bike is a different matter entirely, but if your criteria for a good track bike is "can I fit on it", that's fair enough, but as you get faster, you'll reach the limitations and realise it's not helping you.

Come on then know it all, share your pearls of wisdom on what is a suitable track day bike.

[wull]

I just love Yorick liking your comments, bet he’d give you a reach around if he had a chance.

You both are so full of shit, at not one point did anyone say that a Busa would make a great track bike, fact is any cunt can take what they want on track, doesn’t have to be all about going fast, improving or whatever it is you seem to expect. I simply put a video up saying absolutely nothing and you start spouting utter shit because it clearly didn’t fit whatever narrative it is you’re trying paint here.

It’s funny how he tries to rip into it initially because of how excited he is and says that it was cringe.

Absolute pair of Fannie’s the two of you.

[westers151]

I just love Yorick liking your comments, bet he’d give you a reach around if he had a chance.

You both are so full of shit, at not one point did anyone say that a Busa would make a great track bike, fact is any cunt can take what they want on track, doesn’t have to be all about going fast, improving or whatever it is you seem to expect. I simply put a video up saying absolutely nothing and you start spouting utter shit because it clearly didn’t fit whatever narrative it is you’re trying paint here.

It’s funny how he tries to rip into it initially because of how excited he is and says that it was cringe.

Absolute pair of Fannie’s the two of you.

It's ok, I know you're not the sharpest tool in the box (I'm sure Scotland's finest would take an unhealthy interest of you doing 3 figures on a public road, if they came across your posts), and I appreciate that you're upset that you've been shown the bottom of the hole you've dug, so i shouldn't be surprised that you've resorted to insults.

So, net result is: a rider in the top 5% of the world can make any bike look capable; durr, no shit sherlock. Next you'll be telling me that baggers are a capable bike just because Jezza McWilliams can muscle one around a circuit.

[wull]

Haha once again at what point was that even mentioned, you took it upon yourself to whinge like fuck about how bad of a track bike it is, I stuck a video up and said sweet fuck all and you’re the one saying I’m not the sharpest tool in the box.

How can I be shown the bottom of a hole I didn’t even dig, you really are a retarded fuck. Again, you’re the one going on about it, I simply put the video up saying nothing.

[Horse]

Isn't it more fun to try and go fast on an inappropriate bike rather than one that makes it easier for you?

[wull]

Also don’t threaten me with that “scotlands finest” pish, just don’t go there.

[MrLongbeard]

you'll be telling me that baggers are a capable bike

Well they do have their own multi manufacturer race series

[westers151]

Also don’t threaten me with that “scotlands finest” pish, just don’t go there.

Firstly, I didn't threaten you. I only pointed out the stupidity of you posting videos at that speed in a public forum. Scotland's finest may never ever see these, in which case you got away with it. But they might if a bike loving scottish traffic cop decided to join and saw those posts.

And I decide where I want to go, not some random on the internet. No run along, I'm sure you've got the kids in the playground to try and bully.

[westers151]

you'll be telling me that baggers are a capable bike

Well they do have their own multi manufacturer race series

Yeah, and a bonkers race series idea it is. I can't see many people buying one as a track only bike

[westers151]

Isn't it more fun to try and go fast on an inappropriate bike rather than one that makes it easier for you?

Depends what level you are at. If you're learning, an inappropriate one is going to make it so much harder for you as you'll not know whether it's you or the bike that is holding you back/causing you issues. Once at a fast speed, knowing you can hold your own with most people (not necessarily the fastest), then it becomes fun to go fast on bikes that aren't litre plus. There's the guy on Youtube (cuban rider, i think), who absolutley hands it to most race rep riders on his S1000 XR, but he is one seriously fast rider.

[wull]

Also don’t threaten me with that “scotlands finest” pish, just don’t go there.

Firstly, I didn't threaten you. I only pointed out the stupidity of you posting videos at that speed in a public forum. Scotland's finest may never ever see these, in which case you got away with it. But they might if a bike loving scottish traffic cop decided to join and saw those posts.

And I decide where I want to go, not some random on the internet. No run along, I'm sure you've got the kids in the playground to try and bully.

[MrLongbeard]

you'll be telling me that baggers are a capable bike

Well they do have their own multi manufacturer race series

Yeah, and a bonkers race series idea it is. I can't see many people buying one as a track only bike

I don't know, I bet they sold out before they were off the production line
https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/new ... rr-bagger/

[westers151]

Well they do have their own multi manufacturer race series

Yeah, and a bonkers race series idea it is. I can't see many people buying one as a track only bike

I don't know, I bet they sold out before they were off the production line
https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/new ... rr-bagger/

I didn't realise they'd made a limited run of those, but at $100K, I'm not surprised. Not exactly standard

[Taipan]

Isn't it more fun to try and go fast on an inappropriate bike rather than one that makes it easier for you?

The last 20 years of my biking history, right there!

[Tricky]

It's not relevant at all. He'd make any bike look good on a track, but that does not make them good track bikes for us mere mortals, yourself included.

Ask yourself this, how often have you heard any decent calibre rider recommend you get a Hyabusa as a track day bike? (actually, I'll answer that for you - none; they'll probably say it's a great, fast, grand tourer on the road, but not one they'd put in their top 10 (or 20) track day bike list).

I think it is completely relevant and you've missed , or just ignored the point- it's a trackday, not a race, and trackdays are about fun- for most people I know anyway.
Yeah, I don't see anyone buying a Busa purely as a track-only bike to chase ultimate laptimes on, but they are very capable, and of course, not everyone who does trackdays does more than one or two a year, or has a track day-only bike do they?

I saw @wull 's post as just providing a (very valid ) alternative view to what had been previously posted, and it was an enjoyable vid to watch I thought too

Yeah , it's pretty much certain that Guintoli on a Busa would ride rings around any of us on here ( possibly even Yozza ) , irrespective of what we were on, but Busas are not shite at going around a track IMO - yep they have limitations from ground clearance and the aspects that weight brings , but many bikes do.
I rode my my mate's ( a Gen 1) at Catalunya, Almeria, and Cadwell and it was the opposite of a disappointment to me, hence I rode it more than once. - it was a lot more capable than I expected it to be ( I was jumping off an R1 onto it each time ) and I loved my time on it, even at Cadwell.

For me @Horse made a very good point, but I'm still not sure what your points are - other than wanting to pick a scrap with Wull!

[westers151]

It's not relevant at all. He'd make any bike look good on a track, but that does not make them good track bikes for us mere mortals, yourself included.

Ask yourself this, how often have you heard any decent calibre rider recommend you get a Hyabusa as a track day bike? (actually, I'll answer that for you - none; they'll probably say it's a great, fast, grand tourer on the road, but not one they'd put in their top 10 (or 20) track day bike list).

I think it is completely relevant and you've missed , or just ignored the point- it's a trackday, not a race, and trackdays are about fun- for most people I know anyway.
Yeah, I don't see anyone buying a Busa purely as a track-only bike to chase ultimate laptimes on, but they are very capable, and of course, not everyone who does trackdays does more than one or two a year, or has a track day-only bike do they?

I saw @wull 's post as just providing a (very valid ) alternative view to what had been previously posted, and it was an enjoyable vid to watch I thought too

Yeah , it's pretty much certain that Guintoli on a Busa would ride rings around any of us on here ( possibly even Yozza ) , irrespective of what we were on, but Busas are not shite at going around a track IMO - yep they have limitations from ground clearance and the aspects that weight brings , but many bikes do.
I rode my my mate's ( a Gen 1) at Catalunya, Almeria, and Cadwell and it was the opposite of a disappointment to me, hence I rode it more than once. - it was a lot more capable than I expected it to be ( I was jumping off an R1 onto it each time ) and I loved my time on it, even at Cadwell.

For me @Horse made a very good point, but I'm still not sure what your points are - other than wanting to pick a scrap with Wull!

If you want to just have fun, then ride a 'buss, and I've not disagreed with that. if you want a bike to develop your skills on a track day, a 'bussa isn't it. I'm not sure how much clearer I need to make that.

[weeksy]

I just love Yorick liking your comments, bet he’d give you a reach around if he had a chance.

You both are so full of shit, at not one point did anyone say that a Busa would make a great track bike, fact is any cunt can take what they want on track, doesn’t have to be all about going fast, improving or whatever it is you seem to expect. I simply put a video up saying absolutely nothing and you start spouting utter shit because it clearly didn’t fit whatever narrative it is you’re trying paint here.

It’s funny how he tries to rip into it initially because of how excited he is and says that it was cringe.

Absolute pair of Fannie’s the two of you.

FFS how many times fella. !

[Tricky]

It's not relevant at all. He'd make any bike look good on a track, but that does not make them good track bikes for us mere mortals, yourself included.

Ask yourself this, how often have you heard any decent calibre rider recommend you get a Hyabusa as a track day bike? (actually, I'll answer that for you - none; they'll probably say it's a great, fast, grand tourer on the road, but not one they'd put in their top 10 (or 20) track day bike list).

I think it is completely relevant and you've missed , or just ignored the point- it's a trackday, not a race, and trackdays are about fun- for most people I know anyway.
Yeah, I don't see anyone buying a Busa purely as a track-only bike to chase ultimate laptimes on, but they are very capable, and of course, not everyone who does trackdays does more than one or two a year, or has a track day-only bike do they?

I saw @wull 's post as just providing a (very valid ) alternative view to what had been previously posted, and it was an enjoyable vid to watch I thought too

Yeah , it's pretty much certain that Guintoli on a Busa would ride rings around any of us on here ( possibly even Yozza ) , irrespective of what we were on, but Busas are not shite at going around a track IMO - yep they have limitations from ground clearance and the aspects that weight brings , but many bikes do.
I rode my my mate's ( a Gen 1) at Catalunya, Almeria, and Cadwell and it was the opposite of a disappointment to me, hence I rode it more than once. - it was a lot more capable than I expected it to be ( I was jumping off an R1 onto it each time ) and I loved my time on it, even at Cadwell.

For me @Horse made a very good point, but I'm still not sure what your points are - other than wanting to pick a scrap with Wull!

If you want to just have fun, then ride a 'buss, and I've not disagreed with that. if you want a bike to develop your skills on a track day, a 'bussa isn't it. I'm not sure how much clearer I need to make that.

I suspect this is going to be pointless, but I'll re-type it anyway in case you didn't really read my post- I saw wull 's post as just providing a (very valid ) alternative view to what yorick previously posted, and it was an enjoyable vid to watch I thought too.
You didn't seem to see it that way, and you were the one who jumped on it and went off on a one-man crusade trying to convince anyone who was reading that a Busa is a shit track bike.

Anyway, whatevs etc , it doesn't matter. I've said all I have to say in this thread and there are more interesting discussions to have, and more exciting things in life to be doing than to be sitting on a keyboard so I'm off into my garage for a fettle