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MrLongbeard wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 6:14 pm
Mussels wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:36 pm Ideas to get people back into the office:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64914894
They would need to do a bit better than that to get me to willingly make a 4 hour round trip.
I wonder what the tax position is on car charging and how long before HMRC want their cut at full public charger rates, I suspect it is being quietly ignored until it gets popular enough.
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Count Steer wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:42 pm The thing that interests me most is that although they seem desperate to entice people back to the office, nobody wants to talk about why?
Gotta keep Starbucks, Pret, Subway open and profitable so they can pay share holders their dividends
Nope. Doesn't fly for me. Why would say, an IT company or a bank care about coffee shops etc? They wouldn't. There's more to it than that.
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Well, big companies do have large amounts of office space sitting empty with everyone WFH, and I imagine they're either tied into long term contracts on it or some will own it outright. It's also down to control and trust. Companies want to see bums on seats just to be sure that workers are actually doing their jobs and not goofing off.

I know - who'd a thunk it?
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Count Steer wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 6:36 pm
MrLongbeard wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 6:14 pm
Mussels wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:36 pm Ideas to get people back into the office:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64914894
They would need to do a bit better than that to get me to willingly make a 4 hour round trip.
I wonder what the tax position is on car charging and how long before HMRC want their cut at full public charger rates, I suspect it is being quietly ignored until it gets popular enough.
Try a 100% pay award and I'll consider it
Count Steer wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:42 pm The thing that interests me most is that although they seem desperate to entice people back to the office, nobody wants to talk about why?
Gotta keep Starbucks, Pret, Subway open and profitable so they can pay share holders their dividends
Nope. Doesn't fly for me. Why would say, an IT company or a bank care about coffee shops etc? They wouldn't. There's more to it than that.
The coffee shops could well be customers of IT companies and banks services.
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https://www.france24.com/en/europe/2023 ... cial-times
UBS will take over Credit Suisse, Swiss authorities said on Sunday, in a deal to combine Switzerland's top two banks designed to contain a widening crisis of confidence in global finance.

The deal includes 100 billion Swiss francs ($108 billion) in liquidity assistance for UBS and Credit Suisse from the Swiss central bank. A price wasn't given.
100 billion Swiss francs! Image

Edit: Press conference talking this up as confirmation of Swiss banking strength and prudence! :lol:
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mangocrazy wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 6:59 pm Well, big companies do have large amounts of office space sitting empty with everyone WFH, and I imagine they're either tied into long term contracts on it or some will own it outright. It's also down to control and trust. Companies want to see bums on seats just to be sure that workers are actually doing their jobs and not goofing off.

I know - who'd a thunk it?
Sheer need to be in control probably covers some of it too. My old bunch wanted people in "just because". Nothing to do with the owner being a control freak I'm sure :lol:
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 7:37 pm
mangocrazy wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 6:59 pm Well, big companies do have large amounts of office space sitting empty with everyone WFH, and I imagine they're either tied into long term contracts on it or some will own it outright. It's also down to control and trust. Companies want to see bums on seats just to be sure that workers are actually doing their jobs and not goofing off.

I know - who'd a thunk it?
Sheer need to be in control probably covers some of it too. My old bunch wanted people in "just because". Nothing to do with the owner being a control freak I'm sure :lol:
Absolutely - my old boss was like that, as well. An attitude that fosters the practice of presenteeism...
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irie wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 7:32 pm https://www.france24.com/en/europe/2023 ... cial-times
UBS will take over Credit Suisse, Swiss authorities said on Sunday, in a deal to combine Switzerland's top two banks designed to contain a widening crisis of confidence in global finance.

The deal includes 100 billion Swiss francs ($108 billion) in liquidity assistance for UBS and Credit Suisse from the Swiss central bank. A price wasn't given.
100 billion Swiss francs! Image

Edit: Press conference talking this up as confirmation of Swiss banking strength and prudence! :lol:
Two thoughts spring to mind.

UBS must now be FAR too big to fail. The Swiss government will be fucked if that goes tits up.

$100 + billion liquidity needed? FFS what were the gnomes of Zurich up to?
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Ant wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 1:57 pm
Mr Moofo wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 1:53 pm
Ant wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 1:23 pm The left will now be out smashing shop fronts in and pulling statues down over Gary's cold.
You have an opinion and I have one too, both can be different and that's ok as we live in a democracy.
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Ant wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 7:12 pm
Count Steer wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 6:36 pm
MrLongbeard wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 6:14 pm

Try a 100% pay award and I'll consider it



Gotta keep Starbucks, Pret, Subway open and profitable so they can pay share holders their dividends
Nope. Doesn't fly for me. Why would say, an IT company or a bank care about coffee shops etc? They wouldn't. There's more to it than that.
The coffee shops could well be customers of IT companies and banks services.
Providing free food and drink in the office doesn't really support local food and drink companies very much.
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Count Steer wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 6:36 pm Nope. Doesn't fly for me. Why would say, an IT company or a bank care about coffee shops etc? They wouldn't. There's more to it than that.
Ah now then, my reasoning was for why nanny state would prefer workers being at their place of employ, why companies want bums on seats could be many fold, not in least because that's how it was always done.
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Count Steer wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 8:45 pm
Ant wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 7:12 pm
Count Steer wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 6:36 pm

Nope. Doesn't fly for me. Why would say, an IT company or a bank care about coffee shops etc? They wouldn't. There's more to it than that.
The coffee shops could well be customers of IT companies and banks services.
Providing free food and drink in the office doesn't really support local food and drink companies very much.
What I mean is, the coffee shop will be a customer of the bank as it uses banking services as a business, that's business, money. Same with the IT company, it services for the tills, website etc.
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Maybe if the asylum seekers were processed faster the majority of them eligible could be allowed into work and start paying into the system instead of costing money and filling the many vacancies there is on the job market that the government keeps on about.
Jeez, how hard was that to work out.
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Google today


Type in 'grogu'

Wait

Usual search results

Wait

Figure appears
Click on the figure


Star Wars fans will be pleased particularly.
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Count Steer wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:42 pm The thing that interests me most is that although they seem desperate to entice people back to the office, nobody wants to talk about why?
A chunk of the economy is based on people working from an office, not to mention commercial property prices.
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Horse wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:30 am Google today


Type in 'grogu'

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Figure appears
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Star Wars fans will be pleased particularly.
Clicked it, he did his thing...then we had a power cut :shock:
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Count Steer wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:40 am
Horse wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:30 am Google today


Type in 'grogu'

Wait

Usual search results

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Figure appears
Click on the figure


Star Wars fans will be pleased particularly.
Clicked it, he did his thing...then we had a power cut :shock:
Yup, that's it. Awesome! Goes beyond CGI ;)
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Potter wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:58 am
demographic wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:22 am Maybe if the asylum seekers were processed faster the majority of them eligible could be allowed into work and start paying into the system instead of costing money and filling the many vacancies there is on the job market that the government keeps on about.
Jeez, how hard was that to work out.
Sounds great. I’m interested in your solution.

Where will you get all the extra judges and lawyers to process them all within record time when they turn up with nothing and no time to build up their story supporting their asylum claim?
And without any ID or other documents ...
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Potter wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:58 am Where will you get all the extra judges and lawyers
The same cupboard that the government go to when they say they're going to have "X,000 extra [insert job or profession]"
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It's the cupboard next to the safe with the cash they haven't got, unless they really need it for good publicity.

Currently I'm enjoying watching the SNP fall apart like a clown car at a circus. Once again the Scots do it better than the English.