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Best supermoto motorbikes: skids and wheelies for all!

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What is a supermoto? Well, there was a time in the late nineties and early noughties where the pinnacle of two wheeled excitement was a supermoto. It’s a simple formula; choose a dirtbike, fit uprated and stiffer suspension, a smaller front wheel and road tyres and what you end up with is a nimble, lightweight, wheelie-popping superbike-slayer.

With short, off-road gearing and torquey single or twin-cylinder engines, supermotos are ideal bikes for winning the traffic light GP around the city centre – plus, you can embarrass superbike riders on a twisty B-road scratch at the weekend.

Supermotos actually originated in America in the late ‘70s and early ‘80s thanks to a TV show called Superbiker. The idea was to pit the best riders from different racing disciplines against one another on a track that combined short circuit, flat track and motocross sections.

The show’s popularity and large prize fund attracted the biking royalty of the day (Eddie Lawson, Kenny Roberts and Håkan Carlqvist to name a few) who modified their own bikes for the job. The field generally included a mixture of Japanese crossers and American V-twin flat trackers with smaller front wheels and fatter tyres fitted and the racing was close and exciting.

When the concept came to Europe, the Superbiker name was translated as Supermotard and the bikes became known as supermotos spawning the race discipline we know today. The supermoto riding style is epitomised by the way the riders ‘back it in’ to corners – a technique where the rear wheel is allowed to break traction while the front brake is applied on the way into a corner.

It wasn’t long before manufacturers began to build their own SM models alongside their MX and enduro machines. The Suzuki DR-Z400SM is a great example of this kind of supermoto. Then, keen to capitalise on the trend, some manufacturers devised bigger-engined supermoto-inspired road bikes such as the Ducati Hypermotard or KTM 690 SMC R.

The craze for supermotos may have died away but roadsters like the KTM Dukes Yamaha MTs and Triumph Street Triple are still flying the flag. These bikes retain some of the drama, scalpel like handling and fun that the supermoto category offers – even if they’re not really supermotos anymore.

Supermotos are razor-focused, desperately impractical and in some cases expensive, but you’d be hard pressed to find a biking niche that offers more fun for a sunny Sunday blast. Here’s MCN’s list of the best new and used supermotos on the market right now.

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But they're just so dull... :D
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Depends what tickles yer scrotum I suppose
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Back in the 00's GasGas had a road going 250 2T SM that I thought looked good fun.
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Every now and again I see an Aprilia SXV on ebay and having to go and search for all the stories about their engines being absolute hand grenades to stop myself doing something stupid like buying one.

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dern wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:12 am Every now and again I see an Aprilia SXV on ebay and having to go and search for all the stories about their engines being absolute hand grenades to stop myself doing something stupid like buying one.

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There's a few on Performance Bikes forum... None are running.

Some have been rebuilt by experts and imploded 20 miles later..

I think SXVs are an incredible thing... if they're working. But they're very rarely in anything more than pieces.
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Such a shame. They look sensational.
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Potter wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:20 am They're not all dull.
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mangocrazy wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:24 am Such a shame. They look sensational.
Agreed on both points.
ISTR @irie of this ere parish had one (or maybe two ?) and raced it/them with Bemsee with some success 10-15 years ago
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It's the modern Aprilia story,it seems. They make exciting bikes,but disappoint in the reliability department.

This is the very reason I didn't buy an RSV4 Tuono. It's probably one of the most exciting bikes out there,but trawling the owners forums show regular recurring and often serious faults,which should have been sorted before production. I really don't have the heart for that and it's a shame all round.
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Skub wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:01 pm It's the modern Aprilia story,it seems. They make exciting bikes,but disappoint in the reliability department.

This is the very reason I didn't buy an RSV4 Tuono. It's probably one of the most exciting bikes out there,but trawling the owners forums show regular recurring and often serious faults,which should have been sorted before production. I really don't have the heart for that and it's a shame all round.
Nah, the RSV4 is incredibly reliable compared to an SXV :D
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Some of us on here were on the NHRO. Htf none of us died or got arrested was a bloody miracle!
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I loved the first Supermotos. Such an exciting time in biking as suddenly we could read about something other than the latest 600s shoot out. Then the ones we knew got called streetmotos and the purists took over. :roll:

I loved my CCMs. The rotax engined one I put a mid-range cam in and had a pumper carb fitted and set up by Chris at xbikes. What a hoot that thing was. I ran race wets on it during winter and actually got a peg down on a roundabout in the pissing rain. I popped bad wheelies on it everywhere and just really enjoyed it. It had to go in the end as I was going to get killed or injured on it. I just RLAC everywhere on it and had so many near misses! Happy days! :thumbup:
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Tricky wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:34 am
mangocrazy wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:24 am Such a shame. They look sensational.
Agreed on both points.
ISTR @irie of this ere parish had one (or maybe two ?) and raced it/them with Bemsee with some success 10-15 years ago
Have two Aprilia SXV550's, the wife's and mine. Both have run perfectly from new (59 reg), only ever used on the road and trails, oil changed every 200 miles. Motors have not been modified in any way.

We're now riding eBikes so they're currently SORNed, but by coincidence they will be put up for sale in a few weeks time.

The 3rd SXV550, my race bike, is in bits needing a new crankcase btw.
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Potter wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:11 pm
Tricky wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:34 am
mangocrazy wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:24 am Such a shame. They look sensational.
Agreed on both points.
ISTR @irie of this ere parish had one (or maybe two ?) and raced it/them with Bemsee with some success 10-15 years ago
Last time we had a sensible conversation he still had them, he did say they were high maintenance though, I think he had one fixed that he had professionally repaired that soon went boom again and he ended up in some sort of dispute over it.

I'd view them as if I'm buying a proper race bike and budget accordingly.
That was my race bike that had been heavily modified. See above.
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I had a Husaberg with 100 mile oil change intervals, 13:1 compression and a left foot kicker. Just for t'craic, like, just for t'craic.
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Tricky wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:34 am
mangocrazy wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:24 am Such a shame. They look sensational.
Agreed on both points.
ISTR @irie of this ere parish had one (or maybe two ?) and raced it/them with Bemsee with some success 10-15 years ago
I knew i had a photo somewhere but took a while to find it. This is Irie's race bike....they gave him the race number 60 as it was his birthday that weekend. The Visordown sticker on the tail piece tells you how long ago it was ;)

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I remember seeing the works SXV550s at Namur, they were easily the quickest bikes in a straight line, they didn't win though, I think a Husky SMR630 did, but that's another hand grenade.

As to which supermoto is best, it depends on what you want, but if I were to get another one I think it would be a DRZ400E conversion, they give the right mix of low weight and reliability, but really you want a combination of bikes, Husky handling with Japanese reliability would be nice, I do know someone who replaced the engine in a Husky with a Honda 650 Dominator engine, so it can be done (the Husky engine shat itself)
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Potter wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:20 am
mangocrazy wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:10 am But they're just so dull... :D
They're not all dull.
I loved my TDR, I bought it when I was banned by thinking a wee 250 would calm me down, first ride after getting my licence back......

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Let me off that one but the inevitable court appearances made me get rid...
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Bigyin wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 7:13 pm
Tricky wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:34 am
mangocrazy wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:24 am Such a shame. They look sensational.
Agreed on both points.
ISTR @irie of this ere parish had one (or maybe two ?) and raced it/them with Bemsee with some success 10-15 years ago
I knew i had a photo somewhere but took a while to find it. This is Irie's race bike....they gave him the race number 60 as it was his birthday that weekend. The Visordown sticker on the tail piece tells you how long ago it was ;)

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I was beating 748's on a 550 that weekend, and at Snett of all places! And on the back straight got passed again, and had to do silly business again through the esses, bomb hole, Coram, and Russell's.

Blimey, that's going back a bit. Think that was the weekend we said your (then) new Mrs was a lovely lady, and it was time to move on.
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