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[wull]

I thought scooters were for men who liked the feeling of the cool breeze on their vagina

[mangocrazy]

No to the electric bike, and I don't commute, but I have swapped to a smaller bike. VFR800 to a CB500F, and the new one rocks. It does everything the bigger one did, slightly slower on fast roads, but just as quick on back roads or in heavy traffic. And it gets 80+mpg and will still top the ton if I want.

I'm thinking on much the same lines. My old VFR750, while one of the lighter VFRs, is still a lardy old bus (225kg wet weight). It's supposed to make 105bhp, but in real life it's somewhere between 85-90 bhp. The KTM Duke 690R I bought a few years back makes a genuine 73bhp, weighs under 150kg dry and its acceleration up to 100mph definitely shades the Viff. It also has way better brakes and handling. It's even a surprisingly good 2-up bike.

The only thing stopping me selling the VFR is the emotional attachment built up through 25 years of ownership.

[mangocrazy]

Electric bikes generate about as much enthusiasm from me as shopping for a new fridge,they seem a utility item priced as a luxury.

I'd certainly take a run on one,but I've seen nothing I lust after,which is a big part of bike ownership for me.

Anyway,I doubt if someone in their twilight biking days is their target demographic.

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[Cousin Jack]

The only thing stopping me selling the VFR is the emotional attachment built up through 25 years of ownership.

I still miss mine too, there is just something about VFRs. If I was going to have a second bike it would be a VFR.

[Taipan]

Interesting scoot. Dunno what realtime range would be in sport modebut onpaperit looks a very usable town scoot.

The Chinese manufacturer have shown off their new electric scooter, the Bicose Real 5T.

The Bicose has been designed to be the electric equivalent of a 125cc scooter in terms of its power and performance, meaning it is relatively accessible.

The Bicose Real 5T is powered by an electric motor that is placed in the centre of the machine. The electric motor sends power to the rear wheel through a belt drive.

In terms of performance the Real 5T is limited to peak output of 15 horsepower. It also has a torque output of 389Nm or around 272 lb-ft, which would allow the bike to have quick acceleration. The top speed is claimed to be 115kph, or 71mph. It can also reach 50km/h in 2.6 seconds.

The Real 5T is fitted with two non-removable 89V, 27Ah lithium batteries housed in the bottom of the frame. This gives the scooter a low centre of gravity allowing it to be stable to ride, but the batteries cannot be removed which is one downside of the bike. The Bicose Real 5T has an incredible range of up to 240 kilometres when in the eco mode, which is 149 miles on a single charge. The scooter also comes equipped with a built in 1.84kW charger compatible with CCS Type 2 sockets. This allows the batteries to be charged from zero to 80 percent in just two hours.

The Real 5T gets three driving modes, traction control, automatic warning lights, and even a reverse gear for convenient manoeuvring in tight parking spaces.

The aluminium alloy single suspension allows for a reduced amount of unsprung mass, which is a benefit for the large storage space of 33 litres.
Overall, the new Bicose model has good styling, performance and is configured well. The Real 5T provides users with a new efficient and fun way to travel in urban life.

The Bicose Real 5T is still in pre-release so the price is yet to be revealed to the public. However, the new electric machine should be released in the middle of 2023.



https://www.visordown.com/news/new-bike ... cose-brand

[Mr. Dazzle]

I've read all of that, but I still don't know what the bike is called.

[Bigyin]

None on here have done the Electric thing yet, we're all a bit stuck in our ways.

I think @The Spin Doctor has had a couple of test rides, but range not yet up to his training ride needs.

My boss looked at them as a possible expansion for our training fleet but at the time realised she needed 2 batteries per bike for a CBT and the characteristics of riding them were completely different to our usual peds and small bikes. For now we will stick to petrol engines

For personal use they are no use to me with the limited range as I like to be out for a decent range when I ride for fun

[Horse]

I've read all of that, but I still don't know what the bike is called.

Oh come on, get real.

Why? Just because.

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[Motorcycle Madness]

Thanks for all the responses - needs proper thinking about. Reckon it'd take a while to notice any money saving anyway because of the price to buy one, even second hand. Also, when the ICE soundtrack gets bigger when the summer riders come out to play, I probably won't even want to sit on an electric!

[weeksy]

Thanks for all the responses - needs proper thinking about. Reckon it'd take a while to notice any money saving anyway because of the price to buy one, even second hand. Also, when the ICE soundtrack gets bigger when the summer riders come out to play, I probably won't even want to sit on an electric!

I don't think there's a world where in short term buying a £10k item to save money makes sense. But it can over the longer term if the residual value is right. Your problem is though you're paying say £200 a month (if financing) to save £50.... which doesn't make sense... unless you want a new vehicle of course. If you're buying for cash you're saving £50 a month... but you're £10k down until you eventually sell it.. So does it actually make sense ?

[Skub]

I'd buy an electric car if I had to,because I'm not into cars and I don't much care how a utility vehicle is fuelled,as long as it gets me where I want to go,but for me bikes are different.

Bikes are a visceral experience and in my world if they don't make 'brum brum' noises and instead sound like a cordless drill,then something vital is lost.

[Taipan]

I'd buy an electric car if I had to,because I'm not into cars and I don't much care how a utility vehicle is fuelled,as long as it gets me where I want to go,but for me bikes are different.

Bikes are a visceral experience and in my world if they don't make 'brum brum' noises and instead sound like a cordless drill,then something vital is lost.

Given I love to hear a bike and fit a race can/system to most bikes I have, I dont understand why this doesn't worry me. I'm so odd!

[Count Steer]

I'd buy an electric car if I had to,because I'm not into cars and I don't much care how a utility vehicle is fuelled,as long as it gets me where I want to go,but for me bikes are different.

Bikes are a visceral experience and in my world if they don't make 'brum brum' noises and instead sound like a cordless drill,then something vital is lost.

Given I love to hear a bike and fit a race can/system to most bikes I have, I dont understand why this doesn't worry me. I'm so odd!

I suspect it's because they're pretty much silent, which has a sort of wow! factor. If they made feeble noises they'd be a bit but silence is kinda stealthy.

[Skub]

I'd buy an electric car if I had to,because I'm not into cars and I don't much care how a utility vehicle is fuelled,as long as it gets me where I want to go,but for me bikes are different.

Bikes are a visceral experience and in my world if they don't make 'brum brum' noises and instead sound like a cordless drill,then something vital is lost.

Given I love to hear a bike and fit a race can/system to most bikes I have, I dont understand why this doesn't worry me. I'm so odd!

It's the scooterist inya.