Walkout Wednesday! I'm on strike!

[Mr Moofo]

I see everyone is going to have to pay the regional monopoly water companies 7.5% more for dumping shit in rivers and the sea too.

*wanders off to listen to more JP*

That’s what happens when you creat a monopoly ( and sell it abroad, making it hard to legislate). Water companies should not be allowed to increase pricing until they are hitting the targets that they are legally required to do.

[Kneerly Down]

On Wednesday morning there was a BBC reporter at a school in Brum IIRC.
The school secretary was shown saying to the head that all the teachers had phoned in sick...none had phoned in to say they were on strike.
Presumably that was because they will get paid for being 'sick' but not for striking.
Also presume the employers will pay another 23.6% of the 'sick' teachers pay on top to try to cover the pension costs.

[Greenman]

On Wednesday morning there was a BBC reporter at a school in Brum IIRC.
The school secretary was shown saying to the head that all the teachers had phoned in sick...none had phoned in to say they were on strike.
Presumably that was because they will get paid for being 'sick' but not for striking.
Also presume the employers will pay another 23.6% of the 'sick' teachers pay on top to try to cover the pension costs.

Good on them. They most likely have been watching the news and following the examples shown by our ruling class and politicians.

[Count Steer]

On Wednesday morning there was a BBC reporter at a school in Brum IIRC.
The school secretary was shown saying to the head that all the teachers had phoned in sick...none had phoned in to say they were on strike.
Presumably that was because they will get paid for being 'sick' but not for striking.
Also presume the employers will pay another 23.6% of the 'sick' teachers pay on top to try to cover the pension costs.

Good on them. They most likely have been watching the news and following the examples shown by our ruling class and politicians.

In which case they'd have phoned in sick then spent the day giving private tuition for cash...and not declared it to the taxman.

[Mr Moofo]

On Wednesday morning there was a BBC reporter at a school in Brum IIRC.
The school secretary was shown saying to the head that all the teachers had phoned in sick...none had phoned in to say they were on strike.
Presumably that was because they will get paid for being 'sick' but not for striking.
Also presume the employers will pay another 23.6% of the 'sick' teachers pay on top to try to cover the pension costs.

Good on them. They most likely have been watching the news and following the examples shown by our ruling class and politicians.

And setting a great example to the kids they teach

[weeksy]

If y'all drag politics back into it... i'll send it to the dark hole that is the politics section

[Mr Moofo]

If y'all drag politics back into it... i'll send it to the dark hole that is the politics section

Shuffles off to the "naughty corner"

[Greenman]

On Wednesday morning there was a BBC reporter at a school in Brum IIRC.
The school secretary was shown saying to the head that all the teachers had phoned in sick...none had phoned in to say they were on strike.
Presumably that was because they will get paid for being 'sick' but not for striking.
Also presume the employers will pay another 23.6% of the 'sick' teachers pay on top to try to cover the pension costs.

Good on them. They most likely have been watching the news and following the examples shown by our ruling class and politicians.

In which case they'd have phoned in sick then spent the day giving private tuition for cash...and not declared it to the taxman.

Good point well made

[Ant]

On Wednesday morning there was a BBC reporter at a school in Brum IIRC.
The school secretary was shown saying to the head that all the teachers had phoned in sick...none had phoned in to say they were on strike.
Presumably that was because they will get paid for being 'sick' but not for striking.
Also presume the employers will pay another 23.6% of the 'sick' teachers pay on top to try to cover the pension costs.

That's gross misconduct, which of course the unions will have them protected against. If someone in the private sector did that, they could face losing their job.

[Greenman]

On Wednesday morning there was a BBC reporter at a school in Brum IIRC.
The school secretary was shown saying to the head that all the teachers had phoned in sick...none had phoned in to say they were on strike.
Presumably that was because they will get paid for being 'sick' but not for striking.
Also presume the employers will pay another 23.6% of the 'sick' teachers pay on top to try to cover the pension costs.

That's gross misconduct, which of course the unions will have them protected against. If someone in the private sector did that, they could face losing their job.

So private sector workers do not have unions then? I think you might find they do!

[Taipan]

We cant work from home on strike days, unless pre-arranged as part of hybrid working arrangments. If cover is available (it won't be in most depts), we can apply for annual leave. Other than that we have to either cross the picket line or have our pay docked by the employer.

Given the number of strike days scheduled in this month alone, this will have a financial impact on a lot of people, particularly those on the lower grades. So I guess it comes down to, can you afford to strike, or as it's being rolled out, can you afford not to strike?


February strike dates from UCU
Wednesday 1 February 2023
Thursday 9 February 2023
Friday 10 February 2023
Tuesday 14 February 2023
Wednesday 15 February 2023
Thursday 16 February 2023
Tuesday 21 February 2023
Wednesday 22 February 2023
Thursday 23 February 2023
Monday 27 February 2023
Tuesday 28 February 2023

[Ant]

On Wednesday morning there was a BBC reporter at a school in Brum IIRC.
The school secretary was shown saying to the head that all the teachers had phoned in sick...none had phoned in to say they were on strike.
Presumably that was because they will get paid for being 'sick' but not for striking.
Also presume the employers will pay another 23.6% of the 'sick' teachers pay on top to try to cover the pension costs.

That's gross misconduct, which of course the unions will have them protected against. If someone in the private sector did that, they could face losing their job.

So private sector workers do not have unions then? I think you might find they do!

I never said they didn't.

[Ant]

Fund the pay increase for the lower paid echelons of the NHS by trimming the vast infrastructure and bureaucracy within middle and senior management. It could easy real ease the funds needed … and not effect the (dreadful) service being offered now.
Teachers are not the lowest paid in Europe. Drs are not the lowest paid in Europe - neither are nurses.
The public sector feels it is hard done by because of the huge amounts of money ploughed into during the Blair years.
Whist not ever mentioning the benefits , pensions and job security not seen in the private sector.
Good example - Friend wife. Made redundant front NHS - redundancy payment , pension paid up to full. Joins the Health Authority next door as a consultant admin on 120 k a year ( from a prior 60k salary) .
Happy to pay the front line more money. Let’s get rid of all the all the health Authorities Chief execs on 170k plus

I think that funding from within is what they all need to do. They need to decide what is important to them, rather than expecting the public to bail them out. Certainly with the NHS, the waste is incredible. My MIL is an estates manager for the NHS, she's on mega money, eye watering pension and the stories she openly tells me about waste, funds ect are simply jaw dropping.

To both NHS and Schools, maybe consider what the private sector does - want more pay? Put less into your pension then, as the tax payer is putting a heck of a lot into it, which the private sector could only dream of.

What I find astonishing, are the reasons for the pay. They claim to have had pay cut over the years, but that's not even true. They don't want to feel the effects of inflation, unlike the private sector who do and will and can do nothing about it - it all seems a bit very selfish to me.

If they don't like inflation, then I can't see how they've done the maths, as if they cost the tax payer more, certainly with inflation busting pay rises, then that will cause inflation as the tax payer has a new burden to fund.

Basically, they don't want 'we're all in it together' - they want us to take the hit, whilst they yet again get more money and protection from those who have to justify every penny.

[v8-powered]

To both NHS and Schools, maybe consider what the private sector does - want more pay? Put less into your pension then, as the tax payer is putting a heck of a lot into it, which the private sector could only dream of.

Agree 100% with this - give them the option of higher pay but give up on pension rights. There are a lot of people that would take those kind of pension rights over a few % etc on their salary.

[Greenman]

That's gross misconduct, which of course the unions will have them protected against. If someone in the private sector did that, they could face losing their job.

So private sector workers do not have unions then? I think you might find they do!

I never said they didn't.

My point was that it is no different for a public or private sector worker if they are in a union, you seemed to allude that if they we're a private sector employee they would lose their job, which is not true.

I am not in a union, i would lose my job if i striked and i work in the public sector, i'm the one who has it shit, i can't even take holidays outside term time so you private bods have it pretty good!

[Ant]

So private sector workers do not have unions then? I think you might find they do!

I never said they didn't.

My point was that it is no different for a public or private sector worker if they are in a union, you seemed to allude that if they we're a private sector employee they would lose their job, which is not true.

I am not in a union, i would lose my job if i striked and i work in the public sector, i'm the one who has it shit, i can't even take holidays outside term time so you private bods have it pretty good!

The difference is that in the private sector, most the of unions are the same, such as Unite, but in the private sector, the union just takes the members money and doesn't represent the people at all.

Taking holiday outside of term time doesn't mean the private sector has it good, as we have to justify everything. If we don't like it, we have to really prove a case for change, or get another job. Holding the country to ransom isn't exactly proving worth at all, providing a feasibility study with 'and here's a job offer offering more' is how we would do it.

[irie]

... Where do the Unions think all this money is going to come from?

[Felix]

One of the wifes customers is a teacher. She is a scab as she went to work but the Union told her to as she is about to go on maternity leave and striking may effect her money. She had a quiet day and sent home early.

[Mr Moofo]

One of the wifes customers is a teacher. She is a scab as she went to work but the Union told her to as she is about to go on maternity leave and striking may effect her money. She had a quiet day and sent home early.

"a scab"

Isn't that kind of old fashioned hate speak in this new all inclusive world?

[Ant]

One of the wifes customers is a teacher. She is a scab as she went to work but the Union told her to as she is about to go on maternity leave and striking may effect her money. She had a quiet day and sent home early.

"a scab"

Isn't that kind of old fashioned hate speak in this new all inclusive world?

It's what they call someone who is prepared to work for a living.