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There's also only 1 pushrod....
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Rockburner wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 4:25 pm
Count Steer wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 2:27 pm It looks like a fairground 'wall of death' show type lash-up. Although the drive belt is on one side there's a pulley on both sides. The motor actually does look like a ditch pump and where's the exhaust? That pipe on top looks like it's connected to a distant carb and there's some sort of choke device in it by the cylinder head. Oh, and the artfully attached cloth underneath must be to catch the oil drips.

The lettering on the boards suggests 'travelling show' too.
Drive belt is on the far side - the 'pulley' on the nearside of the rear wheel might be the brake 'drum'. (ie it's the surface that the brake shoe acts on)
I saw the belt on the other side but didn't see anything that would act as a brake or anything that you'd use to activate it...unless he sticks his boot on that 'drum'. :D

That engine and belt drive definitely says 'farm' to me though.

I think they've cut an actual bike in half to make it.
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Count Steer wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 4:30 pm
Rockburner wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 4:25 pm
Count Steer wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 2:27 pm It looks like a fairground 'wall of death' show type lash-up. Although the drive belt is on one side there's a pulley on both sides. The motor actually does look like a ditch pump and where's the exhaust? That pipe on top looks like it's connected to a distant carb and there's some sort of choke device in it by the cylinder head. Oh, and the artfully attached cloth underneath must be to catch the oil drips.

The lettering on the boards suggests 'travelling show' too.
Drive belt is on the far side - the 'pulley' on the nearside of the rear wheel might be the brake 'drum'. (ie it's the surface that the brake shoe acts on)
I saw the belt on the other side but didn't see anything that would act as a brake or anything that you'd use to activate it...unless he sticks his boot on that 'drum'. :D

That engine and belt drive definitely says 'farm' to me though.
Nah - belt drive was widely used until about the 1930s.

It might be simply a slightly different diameter pulley so you can spin the rear wheel around for a change of gearing. Upon closer inspection I can't see any form of brake mechanism so I think that's what it is.


The engine maker's name appears to be _____ AT & Com. (or possibly ____RT & Com). I'm struggling to think of it.
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Here's a pic of the other side - so some kind of training aid although I'm not entirely sure exactly how this worked.

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According to Google translate,the photo is of the world hour record & his trainers
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ChrisW wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 5:01 pm Here's a pic of the other side - so some kind of training aid although I'm not entirely sure exactly how this worked.

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yeah - it's an aero-pace bike - the guy at the back sitting up creates a vortex which pulls the cyclist along.

Nice to have a different pic from obviously the same day! (same jumpers! :D)
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Incidentally - the current bicycle speed record was done in virtually the same way - but with a dragster equipped with bodywork the size of a barn door!

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Rockburner wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 5:25 pm
ChrisW wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 5:01 pm Here's a pic of the other side - so some kind of training aid although I'm not entirely sure exactly how this worked.

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yeah - it's an aero-pace bike - the guy at the back sitting up creates a vortex which pulls the cyclist along.

Nice to have a different pic from obviously the same day! (same jumpers! :D)
Huh! So the 'wheelie bar' is presumably a roller that the bike's front wheel can bump up against.
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Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 2:15 pm
G.P wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 12:25 pm Image

I like.
It doesn't run, it did pre turbo, but as far as I know it hasn't run since the current owner put the turbo on, it's now a show pony.
I still Like it though. 8-)
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ChrisW wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 5:01 pm Here's a pic of the other side - so some kind of training aid although I'm not entirely sure exactly how this worked.

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More info: https://motorcyclemojo.com/2022/05/motor-paced-cycling/
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ChrisW wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 5:32 pm
Rockburner wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 5:25 pm
ChrisW wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 5:01 pm Here's a pic of the other side - so some kind of training aid although I'm not entirely sure exactly how this worked.

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yeah - it's an aero-pace bike - the guy at the back sitting up creates a vortex which pulls the cyclist along.

Nice to have a different pic from obviously the same day! (same jumpers! :D)
Huh! So the 'wheelie bar' is presumably a roller that the bike's front wheel can bump up against.
Or just a bar, won't necessarily be a roller.
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Rockburner wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 7:17 pm
ChrisW wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 5:32 pm
Rockburner wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 5:25 pm

yeah - it's an aero-pace bike - the guy at the back sitting up creates a vortex which pulls the cyclist along.

Nice to have a different pic from obviously the same day! (same jumpers! :D)
Huh! So the 'wheelie bar' is presumably a roller that the bike's front wheel can bump up against.
Or just a bar, won't necessarily be a roller.
'The bicycles had small front wheels in order to ride as close as possible to the pace bike, and the pace bike was often equipped with a small roller just aft of the rear wheel to avoid disaster should the cyclist make contact with the pace bike. Despite this safety feature, many pacers and cyclists got killed in crashes due to the high speeds and lack of protection.'
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Rockburner wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 7:17 pm
Or just a bar, won't necessarily be a roller.
You were spot on about the different sized pulleys giving different gearing RB. :thumbup:

(There were no brakes and no exhaust either :shock: ).
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G.P wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 6:17 pm
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 2:15 pm
G.P wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 12:25 pm Image

I like.
It doesn't run, it did pre turbo, but as far as I know it hasn't run since the current owner put the turbo on, it's now a show pony.
I still Like it though. 8-)
I'd happily have one, I've got the engine already, but the frame cost more than my whole Suzuki did.
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Count Steer wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 10:15 am
Rockburner wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 7:17 pm
Or just a bar, won't necessarily be a roller.
You were spot on about the different sized pulleys giving different gearing RB. :thumbup:

(There were no brakes and no exhaust either :shock: ).
Seen it before on Veteran bikes. If you're touring Europe it helps to have a different final ratio when you reach the Alps! :D
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Before Deraileurs were invented cyclists used to have a different sized sprocket on the drive side / non drive side.To change the gearing they'd take out the rear wheel & fit it back with the non drive side sprocket now becoming the drive sprocket.
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A Belgian bike! One careful owner, 52km on the clock, suitable for UK roads....and a small family. :D Built in a 'mountainous area'...of Belgium. :wtf:

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Skub wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:03 pm A GSXR1100 dirt bike anyone?

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Count Steer wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 3:59 pm A Belgian bike! One careful owner, 52km on the clock, suitable for UK roads....and a small family. :D Built in a 'mountainous area'...of Belgium. :wtf:
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Our local spiffy bike shop is converting a Honda RC213V-S for road use... Probably won't be tempting that to play on Mulholland... They had one before & sold it for $265,000