Fancy doing a test?

[Noggin]

44/50

Got my countries wrong on the roundabout question

Second guessed myself on the hazard signs

Got ABS and TCS confused

Didn't read the which lane question properly

Have no idea what the different levels of test mean

CPR must have changed, but anything is better than nothing!!


TBF, 44/50 is way more than I'd hoped for

[Count Steer]

Got the slowing down arm wave wrong, right arm not left.

Why does the right arm make the slowing down signal? It means taking your hand off the throttle to signal — meaning you could slow more rapidly than the following vehicle expects.

But if the left arm makes the slowing down signal, it gives considerably more (throttle) control over the rate of slowing, increasing safety. And as it’s movement that attracts attention, the left arm’s as conspicuous as the right.

I wonder if the arm signals originated with cyclists, not motorcyclists riding a large-capacity twin cylinder.

I got the answer to the same Q wrong - except that now I know what I'm supposed to do I will carry on doing the same as I've always done and use my left arm for the signal, because it makes absolute sense to do so. Dolloping along on a closed throttle (especially on a big V-twin) would make the plot borderline unstable. It's a silly idea and it can fuck right off.

And you would signal a right turn without taking your hand of the throttle exactly how? Pointing to the right, over your head with the left hand perhaps?

[mangocrazy]

Why does the right arm make the slowing down signal? It means taking your hand off the throttle to signal — meaning you could slow more rapidly than the following vehicle expects.

But if the left arm makes the slowing down signal, it gives considerably more (throttle) control over the rate of slowing, increasing safety. And as it’s movement that attracts attention, the left arm’s as conspicuous as the right.

I wonder if the arm signals originated with cyclists, not motorcyclists riding a large-capacity twin cylinder.

I got the answer to the same Q wrong - except that now I know what I'm supposed to do I will carry on doing the same as I've always done and use my left arm for the signal, because it makes absolute sense to do so. Dolloping along on a closed throttle (especially on a big V-twin) would make the plot borderline unstable. It's a silly idea and it can fuck right off.

And you would signal a right turn without taking your hand of the throttle exactly how? Pointing to the right, over your head with the left hand perhaps?

I'd use my right indicator...

[Noggin]

Why does the right arm make the slowing down signal? It means taking your hand off the throttle to signal — meaning you could slow more rapidly than the following vehicle expects.

But if the left arm makes the slowing down signal, it gives considerably more (throttle) control over the rate of slowing, increasing safety. And as it’s movement that attracts attention, the left arm’s as conspicuous as the right.

I wonder if the arm signals originated with cyclists, not motorcyclists riding a large-capacity twin cylinder.

I got the answer to the same Q wrong - except that now I know what I'm supposed to do I will carry on doing the same as I've always done and use my left arm for the signal, because it makes absolute sense to do so. Dolloping along on a closed throttle (especially on a big V-twin) would make the plot borderline unstable. It's a silly idea and it can fuck right off.

And you would signal a right turn without taking your hand of the throttle exactly how? Pointing to the right, over your head with the left hand perhaps?

I thought you used your left arm but made it circle (horizontally ish!) - of is that something else?

[Count Steer]

I thought you used your left arm but made it circle (horizontally ish!) - of is that something else?

On my test, way back in the mists of time, the only criticism was I didn't stick my right arm out enough to signal a right turn. He said 'sit up straight and make the signal clear enough so there is no ambiguity!'

Passed me though.

[Noggin]

I thought you used your left arm but made it circle (horizontally ish!) - of is that something else?

On my test, way back in the mists of time, the only criticism was I didn't stick my right arm out enough to signal a right turn. He said 'sit up straight and make the signal clear enough so there is no ambiguity!'

Passed me though.

Yeah, I never had to do hand signals on a test!! But I'm sure my Dad said that left was making circles with your left arm out to the side

[westers151]

I got the answer to the same Q wrong - except that now I know what I'm supposed to do I will carry on doing the same as I've always done and use my left arm for the signal, because it makes absolute sense to do so. Dolloping along on a closed throttle (especially on a big V-twin) would make the plot borderline unstable. It's a silly idea and it can fuck right off.

And you would signal a right turn without taking your hand of the throttle exactly how? Pointing to the right, over your head with the left hand perhaps?

I thought you used your left arm but made it circle (horizontally ish!) - of is that something else?

That's start your engines. Have you been watching too much Umericun tv?

[Count Steer]

I thought you used your left arm but made it circle (horizontally ish!) - of is that something else?

On my test, way back in the mists of time, the only criticism was I didn't stick my right arm out enough to signal a right turn. He said 'sit up straight and make the signal clear enough so there is no ambiguity!'

Passed me though.

Yeah, I never had to do hand signals on a test!! But I'm sure my Dad said that left was making circles with your left arm out to the side

Err...in a car in the UK you can't stick your left arm out (unless your arms are like Twizzle ) so you'd do the circular thing with the right arm to go left. On a bike you stick your left arm out to go left, your right arm out to go right. If feeling flamboyant you can waft the right arm up and down to indicate that your brake light is broken and you are grinding to a halt.

[The Spin Doctor]

Got the slowing down arm wave wrong, right arm not left.

Why does the right arm make the slowing down signal? It means taking your hand off the throttle to signal — meaning you could slow more rapidly than the following vehicle expects.

But if the left arm makes the slowing down signal, it gives considerably more (throttle) control over the rate of slowing, increasing safety. And as it’s movement that attracts attention, the left arm’s as conspicuous as the right.

I wonder if the arm signals originated with cyclists, not motorcyclists riding a large-capacity twin cylinder.

Blimey, I answered this one for Bike Breaker 20 years ago - pull the clutch in if you want to continue rolling.

OK, not so easy on a DCT or e-bike with engine braking dialled up but for the time being it'll work with most bikes!

I'd guess it's the right arm because bikes used to ride 1 yard from the kerb - that was the official guidance as late at the mid-70s when I was starting out on two wheels... so the left arm would have been on the 'wrong' side from a following driver.

[The Spin Doctor]

On my test, way back in the mists of time, the only criticism was I didn't stick my right arm out enough to signal a right turn. He said 'sit up straight and make the signal clear enough so there is no ambiguity!'

Passed me though.

Yeah, I never had to do hand signals on a test!! But I'm sure my Dad said that left was making circles with your left arm out to the side

Err...in a car in the UK you can't stick your left arm out (unless your arms are like Twizzle ) so you'd do the circular thing with the right arm to go left. On a bike you stick your left arm out to go left, your right arm out to go right. If feeling flamboyant you can waft the right arm up and down to indicate that your brake light is broken and you are grinding to a halt.

Presumably you reverse that if you're driving a left-hand drive car

There are certain circumstances I use a 'slowing down' signal to reinforce the brake light... for example, where I'm slowing where someone might expect me not to slow down, or where the arm signal is likely to be more visible than a brake light - low sun ahead of me, for example.

[Horse]

. If feeling flamboyant you can waft the right arm up and down to indicate that your brake light is broken and you are grinding to a halt.

AKA the 'dying swan'

If you want added complications, there's also 'short' arm signals It comes from police advanced training, early experiences from riding behind big fairings being that if you stick your arm out straight at speed then either it's instant shoulder dislocation or the rider is corkscrewed into the seat

[Dodgy69]

What I sometimes do just to attract attention is, left arm out briefly for turning off left, right arm out briefly for turning off right, but left arm up and down if slowing or stopping to pull up on side of road. Bike indicators aren't always that obvious to many of today's drivers.

[Hot_Air]

I'd guess it's the right arm because bikes used to ride 1 yard from the kerb - that was the official guidance as late at the mid-70s when I was starting out on two wheels... so the left arm would have been on the 'wrong' side from a following driver.

Interesting, thanks. That must explain it. But I wonder which arm cyclists use as the hand signal for slowing down?

[Noggin]

On my test, way back in the mists of time, the only criticism was I didn't stick my right arm out enough to signal a right turn. He said 'sit up straight and make the signal clear enough so there is no ambiguity!'

Passed me though.

Yeah, I never had to do hand signals on a test!! But I'm sure my Dad said that left was making circles with your left arm out to the side

Err...in a car in the UK you can't stick your left arm out (unless your arms are like Twizzle ) so you'd do the circular thing with the right arm to go left. On a bike you stick your left arm out to go left, your right arm out to go right. If feeling flamboyant you can waft the right arm up and down to indicate that your brake light is broken and you are grinding to a halt.

But, but, on a bike you'd be encouraged not to let go of the accelerator to indicate right?

I dunno - but I know I was told left arm for something! Maybe it was the slowing down thing - but that wouldn't work in a car either. Maybe he was talking about bikes!!

[The Spin Doctor]

Interesting, thanks. That must explain it. But I wonder which arm cyclists use as the hand signal for slowing down?

Still the right arm on a cycle in the UK.

https://roadcyclinguk.com/how-to/techni ... calls.html

[The Spin Doctor]

But, but, on a bike you'd be encouraged not to let go of the accelerator to indicate right?

I dunno - but I know I was told left arm for something! Maybe it was the slowing down thing - but that wouldn't work in a car either. Maybe he was talking about bikes!!

As I said yesterday about using the right arm: "pull the clutch in if you want to continue rolling"

[ZRX61]

The (multiple choice) written test here has 30 or 35 questions (iirc) from a group of 100. One of them is "why do motorcyclists wear gloves?. The CA DMV thinks it's to give you a better grip on the bars, it's not for protection.
I missed two questions when I took the test. Turns out that there are three questions among the 100 that have no correct answer (WTF??) & I got two of them on my written. You'd think they would give you a pass on those three instead of a fail. The fuckers.

[Dodgy69]

But, but, on a bike you'd be encouraged not to let go of the accelerator to indicate right?

I dunno - but I know I was told left arm for something! Maybe it was the slowing down thing - but that wouldn't work in a car either. Maybe he was talking about bikes!!

As I said yesterday about using the right arm: "pull the clutch in if you want to continue rolling"

Your probably right, but then you have no control of the bike. If you have a hand on the power, you could keep it rolling or accelerate, depending on circumstance. Each to their own in the real world I suppose.

[Horse]

but then you have no control of the bike

I've seen people without either hand on the bars who've had more control than some with both

[Count Steer]

For my riding test I tweaked the throttle so it had some friction on it (not too difficult on an old Lambretta) so approaching the only right turn where the examiner could see me...throttle to 'cruise', arm out like a railway signal, back brake to slow a bit.

(The test circuit actually went around my school and I had to bunk off for the day to do it ).