Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?

[MyLittleStudPony]

If I had one I'd just panic buy loads of electricity in advance, then store it under my bed in a load of lunch boxes with sliced up fishing weights in them.

[MyLittleStudPony]

Probably less of an issue the the recent fuel panic buying and shortages.

Not really, the petrol/diesel shortage was a short term problem while lack of charging stations has always been a problem that EV evangelists try to gloss over.

My g/f has an electric car, she charges it up at home. There's never a queue there.

I have a friend who's (still!) on the car mags. He says there's apps now where people with a charging point can let others use it for a displayed rate.

[Yorick]

I bet where there were queues at supermarkets that everyone was getting a full charge whether they needed it or not. No being kind to others in the queue.

[Taipan]

More of the same! V12 for the win!

[Kneerly Down]

Apparently it's been 2-4 hours wait at quite a few Tesla motorway service station chargers.
South Mimms, Tebay, Gretna among them.

[Kneerly Down]

I do wonder, with my 10 year old Ampera, how much the battery technology has increased over that time.
If it could get to the point where I could swap out the existing modules for ones with twice the energy density and have say 70-80 mile range on electric only that'd mean only my trips down to Perth/Edinburgh/Glasgow and beyond would be done using anything other than electric, but with the petrol 'generator' still there to take me past the queues of Teslas at Gretna and the like!

[Couchy]

Follow the money.

People are investing in commodity ETFs in anticipation of rising prices, I've just thrown a decent chunk into a base metals one and another into a transition components one, these funds are created on the basis that the underlying assets (like copper, lithium, switching raw materials, etc) are going to rise in value.

EV motoring is cheaper now than it ever will be, and it doesn't make much financial sense now unless you have space to charge overnight and do short journeys, and even then a cheap petrol car is probably cheaper.
It's only going to get more expensive and more inconvenient until the infrastructure is built and emerging technology makes it more efficient - I could be wrong but I reckon the city folk have done their due diligence and this won't happen any time soon, so they've sunk their billions into it and will enjoy the profits as the prices rise.

Motoring is only going to get more expensive, we’ve had the years of cheap transport and fuel. Another 50-100 years and owning your own personal transport you drive yourself will be consigned to history. People that can’t afford the new autonomous transport will move back to big cities in droves. There will become an even bigger gap between haves and have nots. Demolition man will look more like a documentary than a rubbish film

[Count Steer]

Follow the money.

People are investing in commodity ETFs in anticipation of rising prices, I've just thrown a decent chunk into a base metals one and another into a transition components one, these funds are created on the basis that the underlying assets (like copper, lithium, switching raw materials, etc) are going to rise in value.

I've been looking at companies doing material recovery/recycling. There's quite a lot going on in the area around efficient recycling of EVs. If you can get the 100gm of dysprosium back out, you're on a winner. (99% of global annual production comes from China so it's not just a cost of recovery issue).

[asmethurst99]

Two of the four charging posts at work have been out of action for 4 weeks now - no news on when they will be fixed.

[Couchy]

Two of the four charging posts at work have been out of action for 4 weeks now - no news on when they will be fixed.

Are they works own charge points or someone else’s ? Do they charge you for the electric ? Who maintains them ? What size are they ?

[Kneerly Down]

People that can’t afford the new autonomous transport will move back to big cities in droves.

And then die of whatever happens to be the next pandemic.

[asmethurst99]

Two of the four charging posts at work have been out of action for 4 weeks now - no news on when they will be fixed.

Are they works own charge points or someone else’s ? Do they charge you for the electric ? Who maintains them ? What size are they ?

They are in our staff car park - we got electric cars for some teams 2 years ago (physio/resp nurse outreach and our specialist resp team) Quite a few staff have electric hybrid vehicles as well so they are for everyone with an electric car not just the hospital vehicles
Normal slow charge.
They are/were branded BP but I think a different company looks after them.
One of the problems is they sometimes can’t connect as they are 2G and there’s a blind spot.
The problem according to the estates manager is getting someone to own the problem - hardware maintenance is sub contracted out and no matter what we say it takes ages for anything to be fixed.The telephone helpline is useless.

[Mr. Dazzle]

Sounds more like a rant against the generic ineptitude of public/private partnerships than anything against EVs in particular

[Count Steer]

People that can’t afford the new autonomous transport will move back to big cities in droves.

And then die of whatever happens to be the next pandemic.

Well, that's quite tidy.

[asmethurst99]

Sounds more like a rant against the generic ineptitude of public/private partnerships than anything against EVs in particular

I like EV’s

[asmethurst99]

Two of the four charging posts at work have been out of action for 4 weeks now - no news on when they will be fixed.

Are they works own charge points or someone else’s ? Do they charge you for the electric ? Who maintains them ? What size are they ?

They are in our staff car park - we got electric cars for some teams 2 years ago (physio/resp nurse outreach and our specialist resp team) Quite a few staff have electric hybrid vehicles as well so they are for everyone with an electric car not just the hospital vehicles
Normal slow charge.
They are/were branded BP but I think a different company looks after them.
One of the problems is they sometimes can’t connect as they are 2G and there’s a blind spot.
The problem according to the estates manager is getting someone to own the problem - hardware maintenance is sub contracted out and no matter what we say it takes ages for anything to be fixed.The telephone helpline is useless.

I think we get a “special rate” on the electricity but don’t quote me.

[MrLongbeard]

I think we get a “special rate” on the electricity but don’t quote me.

[Couchy]

Two of the four charging posts at work have been out of action for 4 weeks now - no news on when they will be fixed.

Are they works own charge points or someone else’s ? Do they charge you for the electric ? Who maintains them ? What size are they ?

They are in our staff car park - we got electric cars for some teams 2 years ago (physio/resp nurse outreach and our specialist resp team) Quite a few staff have electric hybrid vehicles as well so they are for everyone with an electric car not just the hospital vehicles
Normal slow charge.
They are/were branded BP but I think a different company looks after them.
One of the problems is they sometimes can’t connect as they are 2G and there’s a blind spot.
The problem according to the estates manager is getting someone to own the problem - hardware maintenance is sub contracted out and no matter what we say it takes ages for anything to be fixed.The telephone helpline is useless.

We install a lot for BP. Problem is most places after the guarantee period won’t take up a maintenance contract which may be what’s happened in your case especially if they are local authority or NHS.

[asmethurst99]

Are they works own charge points or someone else’s ? Do they charge you for the electric ? Who maintains them ? What size are they ?

They are in our staff car park - we got electric cars for some teams 2 years ago (physio/resp nurse outreach and our specialist resp team) Quite a few staff have electric hybrid vehicles as well so they are for everyone with an electric car not just the hospital vehicles
Normal slow charge.
They are/were branded BP but I think a different company looks after them.
One of the problems is they sometimes can’t connect as they are 2G and there’s a blind spot.
The problem according to the estates manager is getting someone to own the problem - hardware maintenance is sub contracted out and no matter what we say it takes ages for anything to be fixed.The telephone helpline is useless.

We install a lot for BP. Problem is most places after the guarantee period won’t take up a maintenance contract which may be what’s happened in your case especially if they are local authority or NHS.

This sounds familiar from previous problems according to the estates manager (I checked this Morning they are badged BP pulse)
People won't buy them if the infrastructure isn't there

[MyLittleStudPony]

If I had one...

Why don't you have one?
You've just bought a new car, why not an EV?

I have nowhere to plug one in.