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I'd be fitting it to the partition.

Ok, you'd need a longer chain but no holes in the floor, you can see where the holes are going to come out and no-ones going to complain about holes in the lower part of the partition or just leave it there as a selling point.
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crust wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:55 am I'd be fitting it to the partition.

Ok, you'd need a longer chain but no holes in the floor, you can see where the holes are going to come out and no-ones going to complain about holes in the lower part of the partition or just leave it there as a selling point.
Not sure there's a long enough chain in the world lol. It'd need to be about 7' long....
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weeksy wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:05 am
crust wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:55 am I'd be fitting it to the partition.

Ok, you'd need a longer chain but no holes in the floor, you can see where the holes are going to come out and no-ones going to complain about holes in the lower part of the partition or just leave it there as a selling point.
Not sure there's a long enough chain in the world lol. It'd need to be about 7' long....
How big are the wheels now? You running 129" wheels? From floor to frame is not much more than radius of wheel, from back of wheel to rear of chain stays is not much more than radius of wheel. Chain will be roughly same length whether it goes up and over or out and through.
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Count Steer wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:21 am But that was mainly because it used to fill up with water when it rained. :lol:
Feels like holes in the floor would help with that.
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:21 am
Count Steer wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:21 am But that was mainly because it used to fill up with water when it rained. :lol:
Feels like holes in the floor would help with that.
I took the rubber grommets out so it drained. :thumbup: I used to get in on wet mornings and have to roll my flares up. :lol:

(It was the windscreen that leaked, it then ran down into the footwell).
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crust wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:55 am I'd be fitting it to the partition.

Ok, you'd need a longer chain but no holes in the floor, you can see where the holes are going to come out and no-ones going to complain about holes in the lower part of the partition or just leave it there as a selling point.
Yup fit it to the bulkhead, or don't tbh and just drill a couple of holes in the bulkhead a metre or so apart and get a long loop of steel wire and a padlock and run through all the frames/wheels. It'll be enough to stop most people, anyone that can defeat that is gonna take them anyway
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The tie down points are pretty solid but not very big. I padlock a chain to the tie down point, run out through the bikes then a padlock at the other end. There's only so much you can do.
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weeksy wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 4:02 pm Security installed today on the van... Happy :)

OK so you can still open it with a can opener :D but it's as secure as a van gets
Did you get someone else to do it? That's my job on Friday to install the locks on mine.
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dern wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:07 am
weeksy wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 4:02 pm Security installed today on the van... Happy :)

OK so you can still open it with a can opener :D but it's as secure as a van gets
Did you get someone else to do it? That's my job on Friday to install the locks on mine.
Fuck yes... you didn't see how many holes he made.... and that was only the correct number and sizes. lol.

No way i was doing that myself matey.

Not wanting to put you off.... but it's a job for a grown up... and i'm not one.
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If you're ever planning on going up crappy lanes and across muddy fields for the cycling events then a big improvement you can make to your chances of not needing recovery are to fit some off-road oriented tyres.

I fitted these 235/65/17 General Grabber AT3 108H to some 17x7 wheels to our T5 and even though it's front wheel drive it can cope with a fair bit of mud and wet grass inclines. This is the van fitted with them after a trip from Newbury to Manchester a few years back when there was snow covering most of the motorways until past Birmingham. During that week it was easily making its way across the back roads round our way with a foot of snow on them...

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I haven't done this on the Vivaro yet as I'm not sure I need that capability in both of them and it does make the driving feel a little slower/heavier. Having said that the VW has been across Europe down to the south of France twice with that tyre set on it and it was absolutely fine. It just doesn't feel quite a light as the standard wheels and tyres.
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weeksy wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:11 am
dern wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:07 am
weeksy wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 4:02 pm Security installed today on the van... Happy :)

OK so you can still open it with a can opener :D but it's as secure as a van gets
Did you get someone else to do it? That's my job on Friday to install the locks on mine.
Fuck yes... you didn't see how many holes he made.... and that was only the correct number and sizes. lol.

No way i was doing that myself matey.

Not wanting to put you off.... but it's a job for a grown up... and i'm not one.
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Fitted 2 sets of these

Image2022-12-21_04-42-20 by Steve Weeks, on Flickr

One on each door. It'll hold helmets, footwear, gloves etc. Just simply so we can see what he's got quickly and have it ready. Basic, but fairly effective 😁 keeps crap off the floor bouncing around
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What you painted the floor with? It looks like Black Jack. At least it wont rust inside out if it is.
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Next investment will be a wind out awning/safari room.
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Felix wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:56 pm What you painted the floor with? It looks like Black Jack. At least it wont rust inside out if it is.
It's a covering but yes that's been painted. I think it's a standard Ford part, like a thick plastic thing.
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weeksy wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:01 pm
Felix wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:56 pm What you painted the floor with? It looks like Black Jack. At least it wont rust inside out if it is.
It's a covering but yes that's been painted. I think it's a standard Ford part, like a thick plastic thing.
Ah pre done. Black Jack is a bitumen paint. Used it in the cab of my last Convoy what worked well. Condensation just sat on it until it evaporated rather than rust the floor. Following year i managed to nail all the leaks so could put the foam back flooring in again.
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KungFooBob wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:58 pm Next investment will be a wind out awning/safari room.
Much prefer the nylon ones. Up just as quick, lighter and takes up less room.

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A wind out awning takes almost 30 seconds and gets you fixing bikes out of the rain.

The safari room panels are just nice to have if you need to sit out of the wind.

There was a company in Leeds that made cheapo copies of the Fammia panels.
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KungFooBob wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:15 pm

There was a company in Leeds that made cheapo copies of the Fammia panels.
Do you remember who? I know at least two people looking for them and the Fammia prices are eye watering.

30 seconds. Take you longer hunt the handle :lol: