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[Count Steer]

It just goes to show the sort of treatment anyone can expect if they dare to go up against the fluffy, liberal, left-wing buttercup-lizards that run the MSM.....like Rupert Murdoch.

[Ant]

Innit, the left don't muck about when it comes to a hate consumed narcissistic witch hunt.

[irie]

All of the buttercups up in arms over Jeremy Clarkson. It's not as if he said pour acid all over her body, is it?

Buttercup? , he wrote "I hate her. Not like I hate Nicola Sturgeon or Rose West. I hate her on a cellular level. At night, I’m unable to sleep as I lie there, grinding my teeth and dreaming of the day when she is made to parade naked through the streets of every town in Britain while the crowds chant, 'Shame!' and throw lumps of excrement at her."... not on the spur of the moment but in a newspaper column that he would have proof read and so would the newspaper. It reflects extraordinarily badly on anyone who thinks that this is acceptable and tries to defend this. I'd go so far as to say you'd have to be way beyond stupid, verging on being a really grim person. Jo Brand was reported to the police by the way.

He said it was a "dream".

Clarkson is a known exaggerator, and in any case it is free speech.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-l ... e-59727118

[Count Steer]

All of the buttercups up in arms over Jeremy Clarkson. It's not as if he said pour acid all over her body, is it?

Buttercup? , he wrote "I hate her. Not like I hate Nicola Sturgeon or Rose West. I hate her on a cellular level. At night, I’m unable to sleep as I lie there, grinding my teeth and dreaming of the day when she is made to parade naked through the streets of every town in Britain while the crowds chant, 'Shame!' and throw lumps of excrement at her."... not on the spur of the moment but in a newspaper column that he would have proof read and so would the newspaper. It reflects extraordinarily badly on anyone who thinks that this is acceptable and tries to defend this. I'd go so far as to say you'd have to be way beyond stupid, verging on being a really grim person. Jo Brand was reported to the police by the way.

He said it was a "dream".

Clarkson is a known exaggerator, and in any case it is free speech.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-l ... e-59727118

But he is unable to sleep so he is imagining rather than dreaming.

[JamJar]

All of the buttercups up in arms over Jeremy Clarkson. It's not as if he said pour acid all over her body, is it?

When Jo Brand made a ‘joke’ about the ‘milk shaking’ of Nigel Farage by saying: “Why bother with a milkshake when you could get some battery acid?”. I don’t recall MPs writing letters calling for her to be punished by her employer. How come it’s different for Jeremy Clarkson?

Theresa May called on the BBC at the time to explain why it happened and she was PM.

[dern]

All of the buttercups up in arms over Jeremy Clarkson. It's not as if he said pour acid all over her body, is it?

Buttercup? , he wrote "I hate her. Not like I hate Nicola Sturgeon or Rose West. I hate her on a cellular level. At night, I’m unable to sleep as I lie there, grinding my teeth and dreaming of the day when she is made to parade naked through the streets of every town in Britain while the crowds chant, 'Shame!' and throw lumps of excrement at her."... not on the spur of the moment but in a newspaper column that he would have proof read and so would the newspaper. It reflects extraordinarily badly on anyone who thinks that this is acceptable and tries to defend this. I'd go so far as to say you'd have to be way beyond stupid, verging on being a really grim person. Jo Brand was reported to the police by the way.

He said it was a "dream".

Clarkson is a known exaggerator, and in any case it is free speech.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-l ... e-59727118

He was using dream in the context of 'look forward to' or 'anticipating'.

It is free speech (well, unless it incites someone) but it's still vile and I can't abide people who express views like this.

If he gets fired it won't be because he was 'cancelled', it'll simply be because he reduced the readership of the sun, rather than increased it.

[DefTrap]

Innit, the left don't muck about when it comes to a hate consumed narcissistic witch hunt.

Nothing to see though is there?
He made 'a joke' to get a titter out of Sun readers FFS, and he's done this so many times before he effectively planned the backlash. And his victim is one carefully chosen as one who has already received extremes of support and anger. Its just more publicity points for Clarkson.

Although it would be funny if Clarkson was stripped naked and covered in excrement in a public place.

[irie]

Buttercup? , he wrote "I hate her. Not like I hate Nicola Sturgeon or Rose West. I hate her on a cellular level. At night, I’m unable to sleep as I lie there, grinding my teeth and dreaming of the day when she is made to parade naked through the streets of every town in Britain while the crowds chant, 'Shame!' and throw lumps of excrement at her."... not on the spur of the moment but in a newspaper column that he would have proof read and so would the newspaper. It reflects extraordinarily badly on anyone who thinks that this is acceptable and tries to defend this. I'd go so far as to say you'd have to be way beyond stupid, verging on being a really grim person. Jo Brand was reported to the police by the way.

He said it was a "dream".

Clarkson is a known exaggerator, and in any case it is free speech.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-l ... e-59727118

He was using dream in the context of 'look forward to' or 'anticipating'.

It is free speech (well, unless it incites someone) but it's still vile and I can't abide people who express views like this.

If he gets fired it won't be because he was 'cancelled', it'll simply be because he reduced the readership of the sun, rather than increased it.

The only interest I have in Clarkson's rants is that if the freedom to make such rants is legally curtailed then so will be freedom of speech.

[dern]

He said it was a "dream".

Clarkson is a known exaggerator, and in any case it is free speech.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-l ... e-59727118

He was using dream in the context of 'look forward to' or 'anticipating'.

It is free speech (well, unless it incites someone) but it's still vile and I can't abide people who express views like this.

If he gets fired it won't be because he was 'cancelled', it'll simply be because he reduced the readership of the sun, rather than increased it.

The only interest I have in Clarkson's rants is that if the freedom to make such rants is legally curtailed then so will be freedom of speech.

It won't be though.

[Dodgy69]

Tbh, I'm surprised folk take his comments so seriously... I doubt it'll happen anyway.

[DefTrap]

The only interest I have in Clarkson's rants is that if the freedom to make such rants is legally curtailed then so will be freedom of speech.

It'll never be effectively curtailed and rightly so. He can be an obnoxious pig and titter to his mates and say really abhorrent things that he would never dream of saying to a close friend, in the name of humour.

That we can see who is being a twat and who is encouraging him to be a twat is a good thing. On the other hand, will anyone miss the sort of paid drivel that makes up Clarkson's opinion column? It's hardly curtailing free speech, reminding some silly old ruddy faced millionaire to effing think before he submits his copy to a rubbishy red top.

[demographic]

Innit, the left don't muck about when it comes to a hate consumed narcissistic witch hunt.

Most of the people have just taken the piss out of Clarkson for being a elderly midlife crisis manchild.
Youre the snowflake whining about peoples comments about him.
Get over it petal.

[Ant]

Innit, the left don't muck about when it comes to a hate consumed narcissistic witch hunt.

Most of the people have just taken the piss out of Clarkson for being a elderly midlife crisis manchild.
Youre the snowflake whining about peoples comments about him.
Get over it petal.

I haven't whined about anything, buttercup.

[demographic]

Innit, the left don't muck about when it comes to a hate consumed narcissistic witch hunt.

Most of the people have just taken the piss out of Clarkson for being a elderly midlife crisis manchild.
Youre the snowflake whining about peoples comments about him.
Get over it petal.

I haven't whined about anything, buttercup.

Aww, need a tampon?

[Ant]

Most of the people have just taken the piss out of Clarkson for being a elderly midlife crisis manchild.
Youre the snowflake whining about peoples comments about him.
Get over it petal.

I haven't whined about anything, buttercup.

Aww, need a tampon?

Ok, this is the part where I don't understand what you're saying. I guess you've run out of 'argument'?

[irie]

The only interest I have in Clarkson's rants is that if the freedom to make such rants is legally curtailed then so will be freedom of speech.

It'll never be effectively curtailed and rightly so. He can be an obnoxious pig and titter to his mates and say really abhorrent things that he would never dream of saying to a close friend, in the name of humour.

That we can see who is being a twat and who is encouraging him to be a twat is a good thing. On the other hand, will anyone miss the sort of paid drivel that makes up Clarkson's opinion column? It's hardly curtailing free speech, reminding some silly old ruddy faced millionaire to effing think before he submits his copy to a rubbishy red top.

A key point of providing this link ...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-l ... e-59727118

... is that the police have indeed been trying to suppress what has now been ruled to be free speech.

Today's ruling backs Harry Miller's legal right to speak his mind and potentially cause offence - a freedom that he says is fundamental in the battle of ideas in a democratic society.

His victory is a headache for the College of Policing, which now has to come up with new "safeguards" to ensure that any future recording of non-crime hate incidents does not disproportionately interfere with the legal right to speak one's mind.

[Mussels]

Good to see, shame they seem to have buried the article in local news. I can't see it on the UK or England pages.

[JackyJoll]

This their example of what the Police were bothering Miller about:

In one tweet Mr Miller wrote: "I was assigned mammal at birth, but my orientation is fish. Don't mis-species me."
This tweet was among several others which were reported to Humberside Police as being allegedly transphobic and Mr Miller was visited by officers at his workplace.

[dern]

So is your point that given it’s legal to say stuff that’s offensive, then it’s ok to say stuff that’s offensive and people shouldn’t complain when they’re offended by it?

[Mussels]

So is your point that given it’s legal to say stuff that’s offensive, then it’s ok to say stuff that’s offensive and people shouldn’t complain when they’re offended by it?

The point is police should stick to recording crimes and not just anything that hurts someone's feelings.