In todays news...

[irie]

The US is giving tax breaks on eco friendly purchases and the EU decides an appropriate response is to complain about it.
Why don't they match it?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63852394

It doesn't say so in the article but I thought the issue was they had to be purchases of goods only made in USA, Canada and Mexico. ie protectionism.

Looks like globalism has had its day.

(They originally left out Mexico, then realised where all there stuff is made ).

All from Mexico? Not quite ...

[Count Steer]

I should probably have qualified it with 'all their cars, domestic appliances and computer chips'. Wouldn't be surprised if they add South Korea to the trio though, it's pretty much a USA 'off-shoring' facility like Mexico.

Ireland is punching above its weight though.

[David]

That's a shit load of Guiness.......

[Count Steer]

That's a shit load of Guiness.......

Looks like it...2021

Ireland Exports to United States
Beverages, spirits and vinegar $777.70M
Plastics $459.39M
Dairy products, eggs, honey, edible products $321.24M
Albuminoids, modified starches, glues, enzymes $200.76M

[Mussels]

I should probably have qualified it with 'all their cars, domestic appliances and computer chips'. Wouldn't be surprised if they add South Korea to the trio though, it's pretty much a USA 'off-shoring' facility like Mexico.

Ireland is punching above its weight though.

That's just Apple's tax bill.

[Felix]

Im starting to feel left out. I may strike now. Down to a three day week over winter but its bloody cold out


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-63893115

[Mr. Dazzle]

Last ever Boeing 747 has rolled off the production line.

Is there any aircraft more emblematic of the boom in air travel, foreign holidays and general access to international travel than the 'Jumbo Jet'? End of an era stuff.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/06/boeing- ... -jets.html

[Count Steer]

Last ever Boeing 747 has rolled off the production line.

Is there any aircraft more emblematic of the boom in air travel, foreign holidays and general access to international travel than the 'Jumbo Jet'? End of an era stuff.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/06/boeing- ... -jets.html

50+ years of them and I still see them and go 'Ooh, 747'.

Still remember my first commercial plane trip (I'd flown in 4 seaters) was a Singapore Airlines 747 (2 of us had the whole rear section to ourselves when we flew back home on New Year's Eve - we used 2 rows of the central section like beds and got a great sleep ).

Seem to be mainly cargo now.

[Mr. Dazzle]

I think every childhood holiday I went on to the US (and there were quite a few) was on a 747, maybe one exception. I also flew 'upstairs' on one when we went on our Honeymoon to San Francisco. Still only Economy sadly , Virgin had pleb class upstairs too.

AFAIK they're the fastest airliner in service now Concorde has gone.

[KungFooBob]

747's don't carry passengers any longer, they're only used for freight now, iirc.

[Mr. Dazzle]

BA binned all theirs off during 'rona, they used to be the biggest operator.

It's pretty common to use old passenger airliners for cargo. Passenger planes spend the majority of their life flying (literally - it's something like 80% of their life off the ground), whereas cargo tends to do maybe one flight a day and then spend the rest of the time sitting around waiting for parcels.

Airliners spend vast sums of fuel, so upgrading to brand new planes with more efficient engines is worth it, but cargo planes fly far less. Therefore many cargo planes are second hand airliners bought for cheap. Or new aircraft based on cheaper old tech, like 747s.

[Count Steer]

I think every childhood holiday I went on to the US (and there were quite a few) was on a 747, maybe one exception. I also flew 'upstairs' on one when we went on our Honeymoon to San Francisco. Still only Economy sadly , Virgin had pleb class upstairs too.

AFAIK they're the fastest airliner in service now Concorde has gone.

After flying to the States 'upstairs' in 1st and Business with Virgin and BA (picked up from home, fast tracked at the airport, champagne, limo transfer in the USA with Virgin 1st) my Mrs was completely spoiled. 'Fly cattle class? I don't think so dear, can't we go upstairs on one of Richard's?'. (My favourite was the opposite end of the scale - Dash 7s out of London City, put your own luggage in the 'boot'. )

[Taipan]

747's don't carry passengers any longer, they're only used for freight now, iirc.

I flew back from NYC on a 747. It was crap and really dated compared to whatever it was i flew out there on!

[Dodgy69]

8 months suspended for killing someone whilst driving car on wrong side of road. What a decent , honest world we live in.

However, Harry's parents seemed happy enough with it. ???

[irie]

8 months suspended for killing someone whilst driving car on wrong side of road. What a decent , honest world we live in.

However, Harry's parents seemed happy enough with it. ???

I don't think they're happy about it, more like recognising that it's the best they're going to get.

[Potter]

8 months suspended for killing someone whilst driving car on wrong side of road. What a decent , honest world we live in.

However, Harry's parents seemed happy enough with it. ???

It appears to be purely symbolic, well actually more of a sham than symbolic, she was always going to walk, I wouldn't be happy with it but maybe it's given them some closure.

[Mussels]

What is the normal penalty for cases like that?
She was insured, sober & stopped for the police.

[JackyJoll]

8 months suspended for killing someone whilst driving car on wrong side of road. What a decent , honest world we live in.

It was a motor accident.

[irie]

Negligence.

[Cousin Jack]

Negligence.

Ever driven/ridden in Europe? Ever pulledd away on to the wrong sideof the road?

I know the road wherr that happened. Straightish 1/2 mile from the gates, then some completely blind double bends.

Careless driving, yes. Anything else, no.