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[KungFooBob]

The B21 has been 'officially' unveiled.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/new-21- ... d=94353024

[JackyJoll]

What about Chickenpox? I guess that'll be a violation of chicken rights and have to called something else?

Offensive to cowards.

[mangocrazy]

Quoting the bible now a hate crime

Street preacher was charged with hate crime for quoting Bible at lesbians

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/98d6 ... 51737dd74f

‘Quoting parts of the bible not appropriate for modern society’

Wait till they get to the human sacrifice and genocide - they’ll love it.

The charge should be altered to 'being an annoying and intrusive twat'. In which respect he'd be bang to rights and guilty as charged.

[Count Steer]

Quoting the bible now a hate crime

Street preacher was charged with hate crime for quoting Bible at lesbians

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/98d6 ... 51737dd74f

‘Quoting parts of the bible not appropriate for modern society’

Wait till they get to the human sacrifice and genocide - they’ll love it.

The charge should be altered to 'being an annoying and intrusive twat'. In which respect he'd be bang to rights and guilty as charged.

Just do what the Greeks do. Make public proselytising illegal.

(My old friend - now a nationalised Greek - was approached by a textbook, earnest, smartly dressed young man, shiny shoes, trousers just a tad short - in a park. Chap starts in with the 'What do you think about...' stuff in an American accent. My friend says 'On your bike or I dob you in').

If my doorstep is included in the term 'public' so much the better.

[mangocrazy]

Quoting the bible now a hate crime

Street preacher was charged with hate crime for quoting Bible at lesbians

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/98d6 ... 51737dd74f

‘Quoting parts of the bible not appropriate for modern society’

Wait till they get to the human sacrifice and genocide - they’ll love it.

The charge should be altered to 'being an annoying and intrusive twat'. In which respect he'd be bang to rights and guilty as charged.

Just do what the Greeks do. Make public proselytising illegal.

(My old friend - now a nationalised Greek - was approached by a textbook, earnest, smartly dressed young man, shiny shoes, trousers just a tad short - in a park. Chap starts in with the 'What do you think about...' stuff in an American accent. My friend says 'On your bike or I dob you in').

If my doorstep is included in the term 'public' so much the better.

As one who was raised as a Jehovah's Witness, but managed to get out and away in his late teens/early twenties, I approve wholeheartedly of that approach. Incorporated in that legislation should also be the right for the victim to be able to give the offender a smack in the mouth...

[wheelnut]

That made me laugh out loud. It raises a few tricky little issues though I think.

The CROWN Prosecution Service is an instrument of the State and the head of State, the man who wears the crown is also the head of the Church of England and 'Defender of the Faith'. That faith is grounded in the Bible.

I know that KC3 has said in the past that he'd prefer the title 'Defender of Faiths' but even then, a couple of other faiths are also grounded in the Bible. Whilst he's not allowed to dabble in politics, I think he must be able to dabble in the law and how it relates to the faith that he's 'Defender' of. Maybe he'll 'ave a quiet word with the CPS.

That’s exactly the logic path my mind followed as well. Plus the irony of him having to swear on the bible* before giving evidence.

*I don’t think they do this any more.

[Mussels]

The US is giving tax breaks on eco friendly purchases and the EU decides an appropriate response is to complain about it.
Why don't they match it?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63852394

[Count Steer]

The US is giving tax breaks on eco friendly purchases and the EU decides an appropriate response is to complain about it.
Why don't they match it?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63852394

It doesn't say so in the article but I thought the issue was they had to be purchases of goods only made in USA, Canada and Mexico. ie protectionism.

Looks like globalism has had its day.

(They originally left out Mexico, then realised where all their stuff is made ).

[irie]

The US is giving tax breaks on eco friendly purchases and the EU decides an appropriate response is to complain about it.
Why don't they match it?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63852394

It doesn't say so in the article but I thought the issue was they had to be purchases of goods only made in USA, Canada and Mexico. ie protectionism.

Looks like globalism has had its day.

(They originally left out Mexico, then realised where all there stuff is made ).

All from Mexico? Not quite ...

[Count Steer]

I should probably have qualified it with 'all their cars, domestic appliances and computer chips'. Wouldn't be surprised if they add South Korea to the trio though, it's pretty much a USA 'off-shoring' facility like Mexico.

Ireland is punching above its weight though.

[David]

That's a shit load of Guiness.......

[Count Steer]

That's a shit load of Guiness.......

Looks like it...2021

Ireland Exports to United States
Beverages, spirits and vinegar $777.70M
Plastics $459.39M
Dairy products, eggs, honey, edible products $321.24M
Albuminoids, modified starches, glues, enzymes $200.76M

[Mussels]

I should probably have qualified it with 'all their cars, domestic appliances and computer chips'. Wouldn't be surprised if they add South Korea to the trio though, it's pretty much a USA 'off-shoring' facility like Mexico.

Ireland is punching above its weight though.

That's just Apple's tax bill.

[Felix]

Im starting to feel left out. I may strike now. Down to a three day week over winter but its bloody cold out


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-63893115

[Mr. Dazzle]

Last ever Boeing 747 has rolled off the production line.

Is there any aircraft more emblematic of the boom in air travel, foreign holidays and general access to international travel than the 'Jumbo Jet'? End of an era stuff.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/06/boeing- ... -jets.html

[Count Steer]

Last ever Boeing 747 has rolled off the production line.

Is there any aircraft more emblematic of the boom in air travel, foreign holidays and general access to international travel than the 'Jumbo Jet'? End of an era stuff.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/06/boeing- ... -jets.html

50+ years of them and I still see them and go 'Ooh, 747'.

Still remember my first commercial plane trip (I'd flown in 4 seaters) was a Singapore Airlines 747 (2 of us had the whole rear section to ourselves when we flew back home on New Year's Eve - we used 2 rows of the central section like beds and got a great sleep ).

Seem to be mainly cargo now.

[Mr. Dazzle]

I think every childhood holiday I went on to the US (and there were quite a few) was on a 747, maybe one exception. I also flew 'upstairs' on one when we went on our Honeymoon to San Francisco. Still only Economy sadly , Virgin had pleb class upstairs too.

AFAIK they're the fastest airliner in service now Concorde has gone.

[KungFooBob]

747's don't carry passengers any longer, they're only used for freight now, iirc.

[Mr. Dazzle]

BA binned all theirs off during 'rona, they used to be the biggest operator.

It's pretty common to use old passenger airliners for cargo. Passenger planes spend the majority of their life flying (literally - it's something like 80% of their life off the ground), whereas cargo tends to do maybe one flight a day and then spend the rest of the time sitting around waiting for parcels.

Airliners spend vast sums of fuel, so upgrading to brand new planes with more efficient engines is worth it, but cargo planes fly far less. Therefore many cargo planes are second hand airliners bought for cheap. Or new aircraft based on cheaper old tech, like 747s.

[Count Steer]

I think every childhood holiday I went on to the US (and there were quite a few) was on a 747, maybe one exception. I also flew 'upstairs' on one when we went on our Honeymoon to San Francisco. Still only Economy sadly , Virgin had pleb class upstairs too.

AFAIK they're the fastest airliner in service now Concorde has gone.

After flying to the States 'upstairs' in 1st and Business with Virgin and BA (picked up from home, fast tracked at the airport, champagne, limo transfer in the USA with Virgin 1st) my Mrs was completely spoiled. 'Fly cattle class? I don't think so dear, can't we go upstairs on one of Richard's?'. (My favourite was the opposite end of the scale - Dash 7s out of London City, put your own luggage in the 'boot'. )