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Based on the conversation as transcribed by JamJar, I'd say the old bat is still living in the '50s. Refuses to admit that Ngozi was born here and is a British national, but wants to pigeon-hole her as Caribbean.
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Supermofo wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:53 am .;

Or the "I'm Irish" bit that so many Americans love :roll:
Don't fucking start me on this, I had a full stand up row with a yank and basically told the stupid twat that just because his great great great great grandfather was from Crossmaglen, he wasn't irish, he was probably more Spanish.
Skub wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 4:21 pm A similar thing happened Mrs.Skub a good few years ago when she used the term 'nigger in the woodpile'. :shock:

People say stuff and there isn't alway malicious intent. In the example of the current story,none of us really know if it was an innocent question,or the usual folk queuing up to be offended at something.
Bloke came out withe the same thing on Radio Ulster a few years back, It was funny as the presenters had a meltdown.

This whole thing was on Talkback today. Some idiot called Feme was trying to say Irish people never suffered any discrimination in England. He was right up with Derry wans in the MOPE stakes.
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 3:46 pm My Dad got in trouble with HR a few years ago for doing "eeny meeny miny mo, catch a nigger by his toe".

He genuinely dizdn't get what the probem was :lol:
I know a family who were having dinner and the mother started saying the rhyme. I can't remember why, perhaps choosing who was to do the washing up. When she got as far as 'miny' the family protested in horror. Her son-in-law, sitting at the table, was first generation British for a Jamaican family. He knew there was no malice intended and wasn't offended.
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I've known the rhyme since I was a child, but it was just "Tiger" instead.
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 8:26 pm I've known the rhyme since I was a child, but it was just "Tiger" instead.
Think the proper word is “Pigeon “
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mel wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:21 pm
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 8:26 pm I've known the rhyme since I was a child, but it was just "Tiger" instead.
Think the proper word is “Pigeon “
I'm from Bradford where there was racism, but I only ever heard it as baby by the toe.
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Yorick wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:27 pm
mel wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:21 pm
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 8:26 pm I've known the rhyme since I was a child, but it was just "Tiger" instead.
Think the proper word is “Pigeon “
I'm from Bradford where there was racism, but I only ever heard it as baby by the toe.
Just looked and lots of versions including tiger :oops:
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Pigeons don't even have toes :D

Maybe that's the point.
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gremlin wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 1:25 pm His take was that, though the question was clumsy,
But it wasn't once, it's reported as:

The late Queen's lady-in-waiting Lady Susan Hussey has apologised and resigned after she repeatedly asked a black British charity boss where she was "really" from.


Hence the suggestion of possible dementia.
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I wonder what the correct answer today is to the question "What was Guy Gibson*'s dog is called?

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Cousin Jack wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:56 pm I wonder what the correct answer today is to the question "What was Guy Gibson*'s dog is called?

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I know what that dog was named when it was alive 80 or so years ago.

I wonder whether you would consider that a good name now for a dog?
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In the US it would have been interpreted as "where are your family originally from" & not seen as racist at all. Looks to me like someone was either playing the professional victim or is a bit thick.
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Bigjawa wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 7:49 pm Don't fucking start me on this, I had a full stand up row with a yank and basically told the stupid twat that just because his great great great great grandfather was from Crossmaglen, he wasn't irish, he was probably more Spanish.
I got the same from some twat in a bar several years ago who was shitfaced drunk before noon... Then the fucker accused me of having a fake British accent. He was very proud of being Irish, despite not being able to name a single town or city in Ireland. It went back & forth a bit until he moved my pint, I grabbed him by the throat & gave him a percussive adjustment that left him laying on the floor.
Bar owner came out from the kitchen after he heard the twat mouthing off. Picked him up & gave him the bum's rush out the door. Funniest thing was his parting comment of "I'm telling my dad!"

Next time I saw him in the bar he came over & apologized. Probably a bit shocked that some old fart put him on his arse in front of about 20 other customers.
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Horse wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 3:38 am
Cousin Jack wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:56 pm I wonder what the correct answer today is to the question "What was Guy Gibson*'s dog is called?

* Boss of 617 Squadron
I know what that dog was named when it was alive 80 or so years ago.

I wonder whether you would consider that a good name now for a dog?
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 6:48 am
Horse wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 3:38 am
Cousin Jack wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:56 pm I wonder what the correct answer today is to the question "What was Guy Gibson*'s dog is called?

* Boss of 617 Squadron
I know what that dog was named when it was alive 80 or so years ago.

I wonder whether you would consider that a good name now for a dog?
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Typo / poor journalism?

A man who said "I'm just trying to find my dog", and sniggered.

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ZRX61 wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 4:19 am In the US it would have been interpreted as "where are your family originally from" & not seen as racist at all. Looks to me like someone was either playing the professional victim or is a bit thick.
Or both
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Horse wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 3:38 am
Cousin Jack wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:56 pm I wonder what the correct answer today is to the question "What was Guy Gibson*'s dog is called?

* Boss of 617 Squadron
I know what that dog was named when it was alive 80 or so years ago.

I wonder whether you would consider that a good name now for a dog?
I believe it is short for Negro. That, and Caucasian, Asiatic, etc are AFAIK still valid broad brush descriptors of human characteristics. I would not be offended at being described as Caucasian.
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It seems the black lady gave herself a made up African name taking parts from different groups, if the octogenarian was familiar with African names this could have be the cause of great confusion.
If I met someone called Adolf Goldstein and dressed as a Cossack then I'd wonder how all that goes together.