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[JackyJoll]

I don’t want Scotch independence, but people who do want it should vote for it. That’s what voting is for!

[cheb]

I love the vagueness of 'The next election will be a de facto referendum.' Any chance on some guidance about how we should interpret the results before the election, or will that have to wait until we got some figures to twist about?

[irie]

I love the vagueness of 'The next election will be a de facto referendum.' Any chance on some guidance about how we should interpret the results before the election, or will that have to wait until we got some figures to twist about?

I predict that whatever the numerical result it will be a triumph for the Wee Krankie.

[JackyJoll]

I love the vagueness of 'The next election will be a de facto referendum.' Any chance on some guidance about how we should interpret the results before the election, or will that have to wait until we got some figures to twist about?

The last one gave a de facto casting vote to the Greens, who won no constituency seats (so far as I can see on the Wikipedia map).

[irie]

Germany no longer in denial? Why now?

Puzzling, deeply puzzling.

Not.

https://www.euronews.com/2022/11/25/hol ... -a-genocid

Holodomor: Germany to call famine that killed millions of Ukrainians in the 1930s a 'genocide'

Germany will recognise the 1930s famine in Soviet Ukraine under Joseph Stalin as a "genocide", according to a draft resolution unveiled on Friday.

Between 1932 and 1933, some 3.5 million Ukrainians died in a man-made famine known as the Holodomor, meaning "extermination by starvation" in Ukrainian.

[demographic]

So the PPE procurement scandal is warming up slightly.
Where the government ignored existing UK PPE companies who promised to prioritise the NHS in favour of spivs who set up new companies and provided inadequate PPE and overcharged us all for it.
Wasting money and more importantly, costing lives.

More about it here.
https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics ... e-profits/

[Mussels]

Germany no longer in denial? Why now?

Puzzling, deeply puzzling.

Not.

https://www.euronews.com/2022/11/25/hol ... -a-genocid

Holodomor: Germany to call famine that killed millions of Ukrainians in the 1930s a 'genocide'

Germany will recognise the 1930s famine in Soviet Ukraine under Joseph Stalin as a "genocide", according to a draft resolution unveiled on Friday.

Between 1932 and 1933, some 3.5 million Ukrainians died in a man-made famine known as the Holodomor, meaning "extermination by starvation" in Ukrainian.

It's a technicality, the concept of genocide didn't exist until after that happened so the argument is it can't be applied retrospectively. The UK still hasn't classified it as such but agree it happened.
There's also a debate about whether it was intentional or not.

[Count Steer]

So the PPE procurement scandal is warming up slightly.
Where the government ignored existing UK PPE companies who promised to prioritise the NHS in favour of spivs who set up new companies and provided inadequate PPE and overcharged us all for it.
Wasting money and more importantly, costing lives.

More about it here.
https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics ... e-profits/

Not to mention the ongoing storage costs (including penalty charges on shipping containers that can't be returned) for hundreds of tons of surplus/not fit for purpose stuff. There doesn't appear to be 'VIP lane' for dodgy disposal contracts of mountains of plastic.

[demographic]

So the PPE procurement scandal is warming up slightly.
Where the government ignored existing UK PPE companies who promised to prioritise the NHS in favour of spivs who set up new companies and provided inadequate PPE and overcharged us all for it.
Wasting money and more importantly, costing lives.

More about it here.
https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics ... e-profits/

Not to mention the ongoing storage costs (including penalty charges on shipping containers that can't be returned) for hundreds of tons of surplus/not fit for purpose stuff. There doesn't appear to be 'VIP lane' for dodgy disposal contracts of mountains of plastic.

Aye, to my uneducated eyes it would seem that some of it was criminal activity and Lady Mone seem to have been recieving backhanders for helping supply inadequate kit

It costing a fortune to store is just taking the piss.

[Horse]

So the PPE procurement scandal is warming up slightly.

I do work for government. The hoops and hurdles we have to go through, including providing relevant experience in delivering what is required, then justifying what we will charge (within a maximum vmbudget that they decide for us) ...

[irie]

Germany no longer in denial? Why now?

Puzzling, deeply puzzling.

Not.

https://www.euronews.com/2022/11/25/hol ... -a-genocid

Holodomor: Germany to call famine that killed millions of Ukrainians in the 1930s a 'genocide'

Germany will recognise the 1930s famine in Soviet Ukraine under Joseph Stalin as a "genocide", according to a draft resolution unveiled on Friday.

Between 1932 and 1933, some 3.5 million Ukrainians died in a man-made famine known as the Holodomor, meaning "extermination by starvation" in Ukrainian.

It's a technicality, the concept of genocide didn't exist until after that happened so the argument is it can't be applied retrospectively. The UK still hasn't classified it as such but agree it happened.
There's also a debate about whether it was intentional or not.

Some technicality.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodom ... %20Romania.

Sovereign states to have recognized Holodomor as genocide[9][10] include Argentina, Australia, Canada, Colombia, Czech Republic, Ecuador, Estonia, Georgia, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Mexico, Moldova[11], Paraguay, Peru, Poland, Portugal, Ukraine, the Holy See in Vatican City[12] and Romania.

https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/act ... r%E2%80%9D)%20Memorial%20Day%E2%80%9D.

Ukrainian Famine and Genocide (“holodomor”) Memorial Day
Marginal note:Ukrainian Famine and Genocide (“Holodomor”) Memorial Day

2 Throughout Canada, in each and every year, the fourth Saturday in November shall be known as “Ukrainian Famine and Genocide (“Holodomor”) Memorial Day”.

[demographic]

So the PPE procurement scandal is warming up slightly.

I do work for government. The hoops and hurdles we have to go through, including providing relevant experience in delivering what is required, then justifying what we will charge (within a maximum vmbudget that they decide for us) ...

Just give Mone and Gove a bung and it'll be sorted in no time.

[gremlin]

Nice to see my old stomping ground has lost none of its genteel charm....

Boy, 16, arrested after two teens fatally stabbed in London
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-63777382

I used to live on Titmuss Avenue. It was shithole then, clearly it's a shithole still. My mum moved out many years back as there was a murder down the road and the perpetrator lived below her and a baying mob turned up with petrol bombs. And let's not the forget the time there was a lad hacked to death with an axe just behind our charming first floor maisonette.

Ahhh. South London....

[Ant]

Nice to see my old stomping ground has lost none of its genteel charm....

Boy, 16, arrested after two teens fatally stabbed in London
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-63777382

I used to live on Titmuss Avenue. It was shithole then, clearly it's a shithole still. My mum moved out many years back as there was a murder down the road and the perpetrator lived below her and a baying mob turned up with petrol bombs. And let's not the forget the time there was a lad hacked to death with an axe just behind our charming first floor maisonette.

Ahhh. South London....

Absolutely shocking, the state of London, in fact the whole country is getting so bad. Sadiq Khanage is doing a wonderful job.

[gremlin]

And let's not forget the expansion of the ULEZ....

https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ultra- ... nsion-2023

[Felix]

Monkeypox gets a new name is its Racist, who knew. No really, Who knew.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-63782514

[Ant]

Nice to see my old stomping ground has lost none of its genteel charm....

Boy, 16, arrested after two teens fatally stabbed in London
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-63777382

I used to live on Titmuss Avenue. It was shithole then, clearly it's a shithole still. My mum moved out many years back as there was a murder down the road and the perpetrator lived below her and a baying mob turned up with petrol bombs. And let's not the forget the time there was a lad hacked to death with an axe just behind our charming first floor maisonette.

Ahhh. South London....

And another one

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/pedestrian-s ... ZBLZRvyKkU

Great job, Khanage.

[Ant]

Monkeypox gets a new name is its Racist, who knew. No really, Who knew.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-63782514

The milk sop wet lettuce lefties have been crying over a name have they

[irie]

Monkeypox gets a new name is its Racist, who knew. No really, Who knew.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-63782514

What about Chickenpox? I guess that'll be a violation of chicken rights and have to called something else?

[Felix]

Monkeypox gets a new name is its Racist, who knew. No really, Who knew.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-63782514

What about Chickenpox? I guess that'll be a violation of chicken rights and have to called something else?

Go Australian and call it Chookpox