125cc scooters

[cheb]

I'd be looking at one with a really trick front end, I can't think of the model name ATM, possibly an Aprillia. And a 2T if possible, less regular maintenance and less worry about short journeys.

[cheb]

That's the one, especially the more naked version. ISTM that all the interesting stuff on two wheelers was on scooters and not motorcycles.

[Supermofo]

Those N-Max seem to be popular with the Deliveroo, Just Eat types. Look alright too.

[KungFooBob]

They all look like scoots for teenagers.

I'd go for something a bit retro looking (a Chinese copy of a Vespa/Lambretta)

https://www.royalalloy.co.uk/new-bikes/ ... cbs-e5-919

Or maybe a Scomandi (made in Thailand)...

http://www.scomadi.com/models/tt125-air-cooled/

[Felix]

Its just a town run bit of transport. Would Electric not be better?

[Nordboy]

As fun as the Aprilia looks, you want no faffing about, the Sym's build quality seems to have improved over the last few years, but for jump on jump off reliabilty, surely the Yammy? (I'm looking at a X-max 300 or 400 as a possible for my next one). How about the Honda PCX 125, even though the looks are a bit marmite?

[Mr. Dazzle]

Its just a town run bit of transport. Would Electric not be better?

I'd say "yes", but then I typically say yes to these questions

What's the law on CBT though? I've not looked for ages - why would I, I have a licence - but it used to be limited to 125cc specifically. How does it work with the devil's electrons?

[Rockburner]

Its just a town run bit of transport. Would Electric not be better?

I'd say "yes", but then I typically say yes to these questions

What's the law on CBT though? I've not looked for ages - why would I, I have a licence - but it used to be limited to 125cc specifically. How does it work with the devil's electrons?

I guess it's going to depend on the initial purchase budget. Yes the elec will be pennies to run, but might be a bigger initial outlay.

[Mr. Dazzle]

Far less cocking about too - no oil, no clutch, no fueling, no exhaust...

If something breaks it'll just be the really expensive impenetrable box of electronics

[Rockburner]

Far less cocking about too - no oil, no clutch, no fueling, no exhaust...

If something breaks it'll just be the really expensive impenetrable box of electronics

Which should at least be an easy to replace 'plug-n-play' (you'd imagine).

[Yorick]

Sir needs one of these, then pretend you're nearly cool

[Bigyin]

Honda PCX125 is the choice of those who can afford to buy Japanese rather than Chinese/Korean from what i have seen

Bombproof engines, reasonable storage for the run to the shops and enough power and speed to stay with traffic

[The Spin Doctor]

Just remember they are prime thieving material too.

[Nordboy]

https://www.seat.co.uk/mo/seat-mo-125

We had one of these on test for a week. We sent it back with a report that it currently is no good for us.

BUT, as a commuter tool, I would consider buying one. It rode well enough, capable of keeping up with the flow of traffic unless you were on the motorway. Range is ok, Seat quote 87 miles but you could reasonably get 50-60 dependant on real world use. The removable battery is a very novel idea and worked well. It's quite easy to get the hang of taking it off and on the scooter. Clever little wheels pop out as the battery slides out so you don't have to carry it everywhere. Go plug it in (you can do this with the battery in situ as well) then put it back on. Bit of a security thing too as you could take the battery with you. The only thing I can't remember is the time to charge?

I'd buy one as a run around. You can pick a nearly new one up for around £4k

[Mr. Dazzle]

Well I've been away and answered my own question.

If you have CBT you can ride a leccy bike of up to 11kW. The law is "up to 11kW and 125cc", so for an EV they just ignore the cc bit because its irrelevant.

SuperSoco do some funky looking stuff. They actually achieve 125eqsue performance (top speed ~60mph) with significantly less than 11kW, which doesn't surprise me at all. 11kW ICE vehicles only make 11kW at peak power and nearly everywhere else theyre making way less than that, whereas a 5kW EV makes 5kW across the entire rev range, give or take.

The trouble with all EVs at the moment is that range costs...the battery is the expensive bit, so if you buy a cheap one you get a small battery.

https://www.supersoco.co.uk/?gclid=EAIa ... gJ0v_D_BwE

[Dodgy69]

https://urbanebikes.com/collections/ele ... 3-ds-cargo

[Mr. Dazzle]

I am alone in reading that as "Urbane Bikes"?

[Whysub]

I had a Yamaha Vity 125-nothing to look at, very bland, so not attractive to our light fingered friends. But cheap to buy and run. Comfy too, as I rode mine to Czechia and back. 110mpg but only a tank range of 85 miles which was a real pisser.

I had a Lifan electric scooter too. Decent quality build, with a Bosch motor. Had mine chipped by the importer in Spain, and would do 45mph on the flat. It was rubbish up hills though, worse than a 50cc twist'n go

[The Spin Doctor]

https://www.seat.co.uk/mo/seat-mo-125

We had one of these on test for a week. We sent it back with a report that it currently is no good for us.

BUT, as a commuter tool, I would consider buying one. It rode well enough, capable of keeping up with the flow of traffic unless you were on the motorway. Range is ok, Seat quote 87 miles but you could reasonably get 50-60 dependant on real world use. The removable battery is a very novel idea and worked well. It's quite easy to get the hang of taking it off and on the scooter. Clever little wheels pop out as the battery slides out so you don't have to carry it everywhere. Go plug it in (you can do this with the battery in situ as well) then put it back on. Bit of a security thing too as you could take the battery with you. The only thing I can't remember is the time to charge?

I'd buy one as a run around. You can pick a nearly new one up for around £4k

Good to get a hands-on report!

I talked about the Seat Mo in June on my webcast... you can also ride it into the sea, the battery is proof against being submerged to the depth of 1 metre in salt water. Just in case you wanted to

[Mr. Dazzle]

You can ride any bike into the sea. You can ride the Seat Mo back out again

The big Rivian 4x4 EV's wading depth is limited only by the depth at which they'll float away .