Motorcycle 'jeans' WHat's good and what's not !

[Alan PBTD]

2nd shout for the Hood Jeams but they are heavy and a bit basic - but Ok for winter. Summer use I'd say Knox - better cut and are a bit flexable. Worn them when it's piggin hot and comfortable all day - only thing I'd say is the pocket are a bit useless - too small.

Having said that there are so many out there now u got to try differnt brands, as all the cuts and sizes are well different. Would like some that are a bit showerproof tho'

[Tomcat]

The thicker they are the better they will protect your ass. Same with body armour. Yes this can make them a bit more bulky but the extra bulk is also handy on a cool day (which let's face it is 99% of the year).

On holiday in Croatia in 2019 I wore Draggin cargo pants and they weren't too hot. Back home I'm in Hood denim, a little heavier. Both are good in their own way.

[Horse]

The thicker they are the better ... Same with body armour.

Not strictly true.

The thicker they are the better they will protect your ass.

Or donkey? Asking for a friend

[Rockburner]

I've had a few over the years - caveat: only crashed in 1 pair.

Mid-90s I had a pair of Shoshoni jeans, looked like denim bike trousers (lots of outside stitching), and were (iirc) just heavy denim with dual-density foam armour.
This was the pair I crashed in, and they worked very well indeed. If I'd been wearing regular jeans, I'd have lost a knee cap, instead I had minor grazing on the knee that hit the deck at 80mph. The jeans were (obviously) totalled.

Still got a pair of black Hoods, with a pair of Aramid shorts sewn into them. Nice on the bike, almost as hot as leathers off. Spring/Autumn wear tbh. Far to hot to wear in the office (and yes I've tried). I fitted Hein Gericke Hiprotec neoprene armour in them which is the comfiest armour (and most protective) that I've known.

Currently using a pair of Lindstrands (Halvarrsons) Macan jeans. Mostly comfy, but with some odd styling that I don't really like. There's an extra 2 inches or so of denim sewn in above the waistline at the back to fill the expected builder's-arse gap; but it makes them uncomfortable off the bike. Also the front pockets are stupidly small and they jeans are cut very tight across the front so when you get on the bike they're stretched to the max - seems weird, but I've sort of become accustomed to it. They seem like they'd be relatively good in an off- the material seems 'heavy', but obviously that also means they're not so comfy off the bike - a bit over warm in the office, but far better than the Hoods.

Very recently I bought a pair of "Rokkertech ML Legend"s and only tried them last night. They're a development of the 'Tapered Slim' which is (allegedly) AAA-rated. Feel like a pair of 'stretchy' 501 to wear (tapered fit jeans is a bit of a new thing for me.... it's a bit weird), so very comfortable indeed. Fitted with D30 Ghost armour so I'm assuming that the protection levels are there, and they're supposed to have a very good abrasion rating. Wearing them on the bike was fine, they were actually a little warmer than I was expecting (given they feel quite thin), and very comfy to wear in the pub. May well try them in the office tomorrow. (if I take the bike)

[Noggin]

onc I've had a reduction operation, that'll be just fine!! So it'll cost a load more than 380£!

I've spent a lot of time looking for something that fits a larger hourglass figure. Most will fit either shoulders/chest or waist/hips. The only kit I had the fitted well was a Crowtree jacket

Have you considered going made-to-measure? Hideout are good - Kate Jennings is very helpful.

Oh totally. The crowtree jacket was mtm. But when I had the money I was planning to drop weight (which I did, not all, but some!) and then once I smashed the shoulder, I've not been able to afford to go mtm. But I will once I am financially back on my feet - sod my size, just need some decent protective gear!!

onc I've had a reduction operation, that'll be just fine!! So it'll cost a load more than 380£!

I've spent a lot of time looking for something that fits a larger hourglass figure. Most will fit either shoulders/chest or waist/hips. The only kit I had the fitted well was a Crowtree jacket

Ok, wasn't aware of your (ahem) particular requirements

Crowtree were the best. I have a set of one piece race leathers from them that I can just about squeeze myself into (they appear to have mysteriously shrunk) and also a pair of leather salopettes that have also shrunk and which I must get altered to fit. Their stuff was just so well made and incredible value for money. To my mind there was nothing better on the market at any price. Such a shame about Alec.

It's the main reason I've had issues with sports kit/armour for bikes and skis! I can make my own clothes to fit and will probably sort out my own armour thingy, but gonna have to pay someone to make bike gear for me

I really liked Crowtree. When I went I wasn't particularly serious about stuff (TDs etc ) so didn't go for the full set. Should have done. Even though it wouldn't have fitted now, someone would probably have been able to alter it for me!

As @Mr. Dazzle says, the jacket was bastard heavy, but I didn't notice whilst wearing it, so that was ok!!

[The Spin Doctor]

Have you considered going made-to-measure? Hideout are good - Kate Jennings is very helpful.

I've admired Hideout for a while,but I'd need to make a trip to the mainland to be measured,so that's an obstacle.
I don't see them listed on that MotoCap page either?

Ha. I went to the IoM to get my made-to-measure Manx suit, but they forgot to build in the stretch panels to cater for aging

As they're made to measure and not off-the-shelf down under you won't find MotoCAP testing them - their remit is kit that's available in the Antipodes, so there are brands on sale here and not there, and vice versa... but quite a few brands are available here and there.

[Hot_Air]

MotoCAP is brilliant, and this Bennetts BikeSocial article is also helpful:
https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/r ... ekev-covec

[BBB]

I bought a pair of the Bullit SR6 jeans with the covec liner stitched in. Took a couple of go's to get the sizing right, fit well on and off the bike and go over my boots not ridden any distance and feel pretty warm. Only £44 off ebay cos they're last years design.

[The Spin Doctor]

John Millbank has been doing some excellent work.

Also worth keeping an eye on Paul Varnsverry's PPE facebook page.

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100052216586185

[Hot_Air]

John Millbank has been doing some excellent work.

Thank goodness for Bennetts’ John Milbank – his honesty is the much-needed yin to Motolegends’ misleading yang. The chap-in-a-cap, Chris Cotton, is entertaining. Unfortunately, Chris thinks his opinion of clothing safety and protection (as a salesman and business owner) means he knows more than Deakin University (whose independent and rigorous tests he’s dismissed) and leading authority Paul Varnsverry.

[Horse]

he knows more than Deakin University (whose independent and rigorous tests he’s dismissed

On what grounds?

[The Spin Doctor]

he knows more than Deakin University (whose independent and rigorous tests he’s dismissed

On what grounds?

Good question. I read one of Chris Cotton's articles and as far as I could see his grounds were "I've been selling protective clothing for a long time and I know what's good and what's not".