Yambo wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 9:29 am
Linehan may well be a plank, I'd never heard of him before but I didn't post the video to bring attention to him or GB News.
I posted the video because I thought the story was fuckin' hilarious.
Is it hilarious? The Geebeebies whiner seems to be upset that they were called Brian?
No, it's far from hilarious although when you choose the ugliest competitor to win a beauty pageant it's pretty damn funny.
But the underlying principle that men should be allowed to compete against women in sport or what would normally be a women only competition is anything but hilarious. It's saying that women don't matter, that they shouldn't be allowed to compete only against other women. It's mysogyny pure and simple.
A message repeated and amplified by many in the vociferous self interested tiny trans minority. Also by a small but highly active sector of the male gay community which wants pretending to be women to mean that they must therefore be treated as women. Which they're not of course.
Both groups are too blind to see that their campaigns are mysogyny, pure and simple.
The biology is simple. Sex is determined during conception: XX chromosomes means you are female, XY chromosomes means you are male. *
Those who dispute the science are playing with words.
Edit: * there are exceptions but these very rare.
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"Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people." - Giordano Bruno
This happens all the time in america. I follow a group for American PPL guys, they're always getting into trouble. They should leave flying to the British.
Is it hilarious? The Geebeebies whiner seems to be upset that they were called Brian?
No, it's far from hilarious although when you choose the ugliest competitor to win a beauty pageant it's pretty damn funny.
But the underlying principle that men should be allowed to compete against women in sport or what would normally be a women only competition is anything but hilarious. It's saying that women don't matter, that they shouldn't be allowed to compete only against other women. It's mysogyny pure and simple.
A message repeated and amplified by many in the vociferous self interested tiny trans minority. Also by a small but highly active sector of the male gay community which wants pretending to be women to mean that they must therefore be treated as women. Which they're not of course.
Both groups are too blind to see that their campaigns are mysogyny, pure and simple.
The biology is simple. Sex is determined during conception: XX chromosomes means you are female, XY chromosomes means you are male. *
Those who dispute the science are playing with words.
Edit: * there are exceptions but these very rare.
The “exceptions,” if you mean people with disorders of sex development, are all either male or female.
DefTrap wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 8:53 am
Linehan is a plank, why would you become an anti trans campaigner? It feels wrong now and will definitely age badly.
Why would you give a beauty queen prize and scholarship to a fat ugly man?
Yambo wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:17 am
No, it's far from hilarious although when you choose the ugliest competitor to win a beauty pageant it's pretty damn funny.
But the underlying principle that men should be allowed to compete against women in sport or what would normally be a women only competition is anything but hilarious. It's saying that women don't matter, that they shouldn't be allowed to compete only against other women. It's mysogyny pure and simple.
A message repeated and amplified by many in the vociferous self interested tiny trans minority. Also by a small but highly active sector of the male gay community which wants pretending to be women to mean that they must therefore be treated as women. Which they're not of course.
Both groups are too blind to see that their campaigns are mysogyny, pure and simple.
The biology is simple. Sex is determined during conception: XX chromosomes means you are female, XY chromosomes means you are male. *
Those who dispute the science are playing with words.
Edit: * there are exceptions but these very rare.
The “exceptions,” if you mean people with disorders of sex development, are all either male or female.
I meant that there are rare exceptions to having either XX or XY chromosomes.
"Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people." - Giordano Bruno
Potter wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 2:28 am
I don't think it's about football, it's just an excuse for activists to get a platform and racists to declare reasons why brown people of a different religion than them shouldn't be liked very much.
I think we should be respectful of other cultures. Not religion as such - no religion should be respected, but I will act as a very respectful guest if I’m in another country and that would include acting in as a way as not to offend.
That said it would be nice if religions (western religions included) would move away from the Middle Ages.
6,500 migrant workers have died in Qatar since they were named as hosts >10 years ago, not 6,500 died building the stadiums. How many of those people would've died even if they'd stayed at home? I bet more than 6,500 migrants have died in the UK in the last 10 years,
Let me clear, I don't think it should be hosted in Qatar (not the F1 or MotoGP) but I don't think they've been using the skeletons of migrant workers as concrete aggregate either.
Mr. Dazzle wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:44 am
6,500 migrant workers have died in Qatar since they were named as hosts >10 years ago, not 6,500 died building the stadiums. How many of those people would've died even if they'd stayed at home? I bet more than 6,500 migrants have died in the UK in the last 10 years,
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You'd like to think that if it were [insert western 'civilised nation' of your choice] who had such a poor record that it would be proper scandalous and questions would be asked. I can't see a UK government having this on their debit sheet and getting away with it, brushing it under the carpet. 6500 migrant workers died, for whatever reason, during the building of the 2012 Olympics facilities? That would be properly shocking.
It sounds so shocking that it makes me wonder what stat they're actually quoting here....6,500 people came over specifically to build a stadium and died in the process, or 6500 people moved to a new country and later died? Out of how many total etc? Were those 6,500 people actually the grannies of the people who moved over to work etc. etc.
Then devil's advocate like, how many would've died if they'd stayed working in their home countries? I don't imagine Bangladesh has a stellar worker health record for example. Maybe moving to Qatar actually improved their odds!
It's more than 1 a day though! In fact it's nearly 1 before lunchtime.
My point was, is that 6,500 figure people who've died at work or migrants who've died in Qatar? it's not the same metric is it?
I'm not saying it's one thing or the other BTW, just that the shocking figure might need qualification. AFAIK there's been like 50 people actually killed 'directly' in the Stadiums? Which is still a lot I agree, but it's not six thousand.
I'm sure Iccy might have a differing opinion, but my FiL worked in Oman for the petrol chemical industry, most of the migrant workers were Indians and they were considered by the local ruling classes to be disposable.
I think it was to do with the working conditions than the number of deaths. Many went months without being paid, were lied to about the type of work they would be doing, the salaries were lower than promised but the workers couldn't change jobs or leave the country because their passports were confiscated and they needed the agreement of their employers to do either.
"Disposable workforces" isn't a new thing. Historically there's loads of construction projects (off the top of my head: transcontinental railway and panama canal, amongst others) where the workforce has been paid badly and treated badly leading to excess deaths. And I'm sure loads a damn site more recent and a damn site closer to home.
It would be nice to know the unbiased truth about Qatar without it all being slagged as fake news.
