EICMA 2022

[ChrisW]

Suzuki Vstrom 800 - with their new parallel twin. Looks pretty good, I reckon.

[KungFooBob]

Looks a hell of a lot better than the one in the spy pics.

The big question is does it make 90bhp like the new Honda twin engine?

[ChrisW]

And the GSX8S:

[KungFooBob]

And the GSX8S:

That's the new Honda Hornet.... oh.

[KungFooBob]

Just read that it's got 81bhp, ten less than the Honda.

[Supermofo]

Specs are going to really count for the GSX. With 800cc you'd hope it's got more power/torque than the competition or at least match the Honda. Then there's price, the Honda is very cheap considering.

[KungFooBob]

https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/r ... 023-review

Less power and more weight than the Honda, but also more electronic gizmos as standard.

[Supermofo]

Just read that it's got 81bhp, ten less than the Honda.

Oof. So it's got a job on it's hands then. Sounds like they made it to compete with the MT07/Trident and Honda has blindsided em.

[tricol]

It's got Duke 890 proportions about it. So that is the SV replacement then?

[Bustaspoke]

I wonder if there's a new Transalp about to be unveiled?
And here it is
https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/new ... -transalp/

[Supermofo]

Sounds like it'll cost a lot more than the Honda too

Although we don’t have an official price tag for the GSX-8S yet the word is that the bike will arrive at around the £8250 mark. If that’s right, it’s likely to be closer to the Yamaha MT-09 than the MT-07 and substantially more expensive than the stunningly affordable, £6999 Honda CB750 Hornet that’s also new for 2023

202kg is also only 9kg less than my GSX 1000 It's nearly 20kg more than an MT07

[ChrisW]

As a more powerful version of an MT07 with better components / spec It's looks great but, as you say, it's sounding like a slightly cheaper underpowered MT09, which would be a shame.

And MCN are guessing at £8.5k!

[KungFooBob]

Now this is more like it!!!

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/new ... ctric-e01/

[Bustaspoke]

According to that MCN article,Honda are claiming 208KG wet weight for the new Transalp & seat height is 850mm with a 825mm option.
I think it looks really nice & doesn't have a beak
I'll be down at the dealers in the New Year

[Supermofo]

That new Tranny would probably be a cracking bike. Not for me as it's not my thing but power and weight sound good for a Adv style bike.

[KungFooBob]

The new Alp is probably on a par spec wise with the BMW F850GS, if it's cheaper than the BMW it will sell well.

I can see it taking customers from the AT tho', I guess Honda don't care as long as you buy a Honda.

[A_morti]

According to that MCN article,Honda are claiming 208KG wet weight for the new Transalp & seat height is 850mm with a 825mm option.
I think it looks really nice & doesn't have a beak
I'll be down at the dealers in the New Year

I suspect it's going to be a star of the show.

[Skub]

Now this is more like it!!!

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/new ... ctric-e01/

It would be a lifetime's work trying to keep that clean with all it's nadgery bitz.

[Mr. Dazzle]

It reminds me of what someone once said about the Mitsubishi FTO: Looks like it races Porsches, actually races Mondeos.

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

The Italjet looks good, the rest look meh.