Chief Twit

[Screwdriver]

It's all a bit "tinfoil hat" on this thread

Guess that must mean something like there's some nutjob conspiracy theory which is so obviously nonsense that it isn't worth bothering to specify exactly what it is.

Or can't you be bothered?

The big tinfoilhat moment might be my referring to the WEF "great reset" which I worry might actually be played out before I get the chance to shuffle off this mortal coil.

Well all I can say about that is; IT IS A CONSPIRACY!!

LOL. (it really is though)

Maybe I should start a new thread, or maybe I should just go for a lie down...

[Screwdriver]

We digress. To say that you can't accept any criticism of Biden "when the same people are so easily dazzlingly blinded by Trump" is extraordinarily narrow minded. Biden is a disaster.

Nope, not that I can't accept it, that I can't take the Biden analysis very seriously from such a skewed perspective. You've obviously done your homework but it's rather pointless getting forensic if you're happy to ignore, or be completely wrong IMO, about a very similar situation. I wouldn't take fashion advice from a blind man, if you want to put it bluntly - and I don't mean that rudely, I'm really doing my best not to give you an opportunity to refocus this onto something quite different.

I've not said anything about Trump was make-believe or doctored by the way - I implied that Trump's supporters are able to watch him live and with his own words but come to a different conclusion to the r-o-w or explain it away as false news. So yes, in that sense make believe and doctored.

I am not sure if I am deliberately ignoring anything, happy to be put right. Pretty sure I am wrong on many things I may have formed an opinion of but without saying what those things are and what the truth is, I either have to accept your word that I'm just wrong about <stuff> or you need to actually point at something I have said you disagree with.

[Count Steer]

'The laptop' taken into the repair shop of a registered blind man who couldn't identify the person that brought it in? Then saw something on it that bothered him? That laptop?

LOL. That is hilarious. Where on earth did you dig that up?

I guess you haven't read his 'about the author' notes on his own publisher's (Simon and Schuster) web page? Visual impairment due to albinism since his teens apparently. Not particularly hilarious.

[Screwdriver]

'The laptop' taken into the repair shop of a registered blind man who couldn't identify the person that brought it in? Then saw something on it that bothered him? That laptop?

LOL. That is hilarious. Where on earth did you dig that up?

I guess you haven't read his 'about the author' notes on his own publisher's (Simon and Schuster) web page? Visual impairment due to albinism since his teens apparently. Not particularly hilarious.

The entire article is basically an exercise in spin.

To take the point about a registered blind person, of course that particular disability is not funny so thank you for suggesting I would find any disability hilarious. Why do you suppose his disability is even relevant, right at the top of the page you link? Because he couldn't (legally) identify Hunter Biden by sight? Is that merely an excuse to cast doubt on the provenance of the laptop? You tell me because for what it's worth, I could not care less if he was declared legally dead, it is still Hunter Bidens laptop.

How else might you cast aspersions on the admissibility of this laptop for evidentiary purposes (for that's the only way to wriggle out of the damning content that is on it). Well, they also go on about "chain of custody" but that chain starts with the FBI getting their hands on it years ago and burying the story, not taking any action at all on the content and then saying that it has passed thought many hands over many years. That is a bit like the FBI saying "well you gave it to us and we are not to be trusted"...

I agree with the comment taken out of context where various experts would say the forensic integrity is a "disaster" because the only versions we can see are a copy (presumably a clone of the original). Yes, technically and even legally, that process introduces doubt and the possibility for nefarious manipulation. But all that does in this case is highlight the fact that the original, unmolested version is being locked up and kept out of public view by the FBI!

It should be a massive scandal. Hard evidence of collusion between Hunter Biden, "the big guy" (his dad) and the CCP (to name but one). Millions of dollars and showered with gifts (diamonds) for what? What exactly were the Bidens selling? That is the real story, not the detailed wrangling over the circumstances of the laptop being discovered.

We also ignore the bit where Hunter denied it was his and then insisted they "give it back" and "Russian disinformation" is just laughable as an excuse for the horrific content which exposes the grimy secret deals the Biden mafia have been making for decades. But hey, cast enough aspersion, introduce a little doubt and some people will just accept the official party line. I believe they refer to this technique as a wilderness of mirrors.

There are pictures of him nude smoking a crack pipe, bragging about his whoring and tens of thousands of emails which have been traced to and from their various recipients. Hard documentary evidence with bank transactions linked to or discovered due to documentation from this hard drive. The article is a pathetic attempt to discredit the authenticity of the laptop to divert attention away from the scandalous behaviour of the son of the now US president.

But you're right, it's not really funny. The Bidens have been embroiled in nefarious deals with Burisma in Ukraine. Look what happened there...

[Saga Lout]

Imagine if Donald Trump Junior's laptop contained equally incriminating evidence and it fell into the hands of the FBI. How long before it was smeared across all of the media? My guess is hours, rather than days.

Why is the Biden family treated with kid gloves by the mainstream medai?

And, getting this thread somewhat back on track: Why was the New York Post banned from Twitter when they broke the story?

[Mr. Dazzle]

Nah, Trump would've filed a pre-emptive injunction

[DefTrap]

Imagine if Donald Trump Junior's laptop contained equally incriminating evidence and it fell into the hands of the FBI. How long before it was smeared across all of the media? My guess is hours, rather than days.

So because you're not aware of any evidence there can't be any? Seems a bit naive.

[Saga Lout]

Imagine if Donald Trump Junior's laptop contained equally incriminating evidence and it fell into the hands of the FBI. How long before it was smeared across all of the media? My guess is hours, rather than days.

So because you're not aware of any evidence there can't be any? Seems a bit naive.

I'm pretty sure that is absolutely not what I said. Would you like to address what I said, rather than what you would like me to have said?

[Count Steer]

Imagine if Donald Trump Junior's laptop contained equally incriminating evidence and it fell into the hands of the FBI. How long before it was smeared across all of the media? My guess is hours, rather than days.

So because you're not aware of any evidence there can't be any? Seems a bit naive.

Evidence of dodgy dealing etc etc by Trump Jr? There's loads. The FBI don't appear to have done much. It's all a bit odd that the FBI are supposed to have jumped the tracks since the Bush administrations and are now all paid up Democrats.

[Hoonercat]

The BIG problem with having a weak leader and a weak US is that unelected faceless global corporations and asset management firms are at the controls. All they want is more money for themselves. It's not rocket science. All they have to do is grease the palms of the rest of the corrupt politicians by so called "lobbying" i.e. "do this thing for me and I'll give you money". If that isn't bribery then I don't know what is.

Which global corporations and asset management firms are at the controls? Name and shame them.

[Screwdriver]

BlackRock.

[Hoonercat]

The BIG problem with having a weak leader and a weak US is that unelected faceless global corporations and asset management firms are at the controls. All they want is more money for themselves. It's not rocket science. All they have to do is grease the palms of the rest of the corrupt politicians by so called "lobbying" i.e. "do this thing for me and I'll give you money". If that isn't bribery then I don't know what is.

Which global corporations and asset management firms are at the controls? Name and shame them.

BlackRock.

Because there ared 3 former BlackRock execs in the Biden administration?

[DefTrap]

There is way more evidence on Hunter Biden than there is on Prince Andrew, yet for many Biden gets the benefit of the doubt because he sits on the left, and Prince Andrew is definitely guilty because he's a toff.

I think this is what Musk is trying to change, the continuous low level push, especially in academia and government, to view everything through a Marxist lens. It's why he's being discredited and painted as right wing.

I don't think a lot of people understand what a Marxist view is, and some don't realise that they now have one.
The general public probably can't articulate it very well, but they know something isn't right, that's why a decent proportion of them keep voting counterintuitively towards the right, it's not that they're right wing, it's the rejection of Marxism - instinctively they can sense an agenda and they know it feels wrong, even if they don't properly know what it is.

I'm not sure I'd choose Prince Andrew as my poster-boy for proof of a global marxist-woke agenda.

Banging on about Marxism is laughable. Other than some Labour party activists nobody in the UK is remotely close. The left swinging and right swinging parties are just battling for power in the only way they know how - making the opposition seem as hateful, strange and abnormal as possible. Hence why the rw press lay it on thick every day about subvertive lw-ers having sex changes all day and glueing themselves to roads to stop the honest working man getting to his job in the union-flag-making factory. They bandy 'marxist' around as a dirty word in the same way as fascist always was.

The man on the street doesn't want his stuff nicked by marauding foreigners or have to worry about weirdos. It's a story as old as time and guess which 'side' is pushing that agenda?

Musk is a pratt, he got old and selfish, he has stuff to lose now and a platform for his chin music.

[Mussels]

I'm not sure I'd choose Prince Andrew as my poster-boy for proof of a global marxist-woke agenda.

Banging on about Marxism is laughable. Other than some Labour party activists nobody in the UK is remotely close. The left swinging and right swinging parties are just battling for power in the only way they know how - making the opposition seem as hateful, strange and abnormal as possible. Hence why the rw press lay it on thick every day about subvertive lw-ers having sex changes all day and glueing themselves to roads to stop the honest working man getting to his job in the union-flag-making factory. They bandy 'marxist' around as a dirty word in the same way as fascist always was.

The man on the street doesn't want his stuff nicked by marauding foreigners or have to worry about weirdos. It's a story as old as time and guess which 'side' is pushing that agenda?

Musk is a pratt, he got old and selfish, he has stuff to lose now and a platform for his chin music.

Put down PA - check
Play down Marxism - check
Don't mention Hunter Biden - check
Drag racism in - check

Old Twitter would be proud of you.

[Mr. Dazzle]

I miss dogooding tree huggers

[Count Steer]

Most of the people that brandish the term 'Marxist' as an insult wouldn't know their dialectical materialism or the means of production from a kick in their bag of cheap groceries or their latest Amazon delivery of Chinese made tat.

[Screwdriver]

Because there ared 3 former BlackRock execs in the Biden administration?

No specific reason. You asked me to "name and shame" an asset management firm who are responsible for the financial mess we find ourselves in, I give you BlackRock.

These giant globalist financial entities literally rule the world and are, as we speak, putting in place plans for a complete takeover without the need to hide behind democratically elected governments.

Rishi Sunak is a worry for me because he is yet another WEF puppet or poster boy if you prefer. The next part of the plan is a digital currency and social credit scoring and Rishi is a supporter of such schemes. Whether you like it or not, it is a strategy straight out of the Marxist playbook.

While I may be a self confessed idiot when it comes to asset management and private equity etc. it is obvious what the super rich are doing. It is a concerted effort to centralise authority derived from wealth. Anyhow, you won't see much of this on Twitter so it's off topic unless you want to start a thread.

[Yambo]

These giant globalist financial entities literally rule the world and are, as we speak, putting in place plans for a complete takeover without the need to hide behind democratically elected governments.

Humour me. Tell me what this complete takeover involves?

They gonna have an army? They gonna have a workforce? If so they're gonna need poor people and lots of them because there's gonna be a lot of poor people that ain't gonna like the change. Some of those will have weapons and the giant global financial entities (remind me where their money comes from) are, in reality, quite few in number and won't be able to hide behind democratically elected governments.

Enlighten me.

[Screwdriver]

These giant globalist financial entities literally rule the world and are, as we speak, putting in place plans for a complete takeover without the need to hide behind democratically elected governments.

Humour me. Tell me what this complete takeover involves?

They gonna have an army? They gonna have a workforce? If so they're gonna need poor people and lots of them because there's gonna be a lot of poor people that ain't gonna like the change. Some of those will have weapons and the giant global financial entities (remind me where their money comes from) are, in reality, quite few in number and won't be able to hide behind democratically elected governments.

Enlighten me.

This is not the thread for it and possibly not even the right forum (ask Weeksy) but "the great reset" is a scheme which the rich and powerful are quite brazen about. It's not as if there's anything anyone can do to stop them so you'll excuse me if I suggest you Google that yourself (I can provide links but those threads get locked).

Will they have an army. Well, err, yes, effectively they will decide what the policy is say towards Russia/Ukraine and they will tell their respective governments what to do. After all, they paid for those politicians.

But it probably won't come to that level of civil disorder. One of the ways they stop it was on display with the truckers dispute in Canada. The government just switch off your money (much easier with a digital currency) and if they can't throw you in jail, just get you fired from your job (much easier with social credit scoring).

How much longer can the rich get richer while the poor get poorer? At some stage somethings got to give and looking at my combined gas/leccy bill, I can quite easily see where that process starts.

[Yambo]

Then you too will have to enlighten me how this takeover of the world works.

Liz Truss was a politician and a vulnerable one at that. She was going to bring herself down soon enough as she was out of her depth. The people with power to bring her down at the time were simply other Members of Parliament. She could have been brought down by the people that elected her as an MP or her local Constituency Party.

Those MPs were simply scared of the people you think will rule the world and that is the big problem, fear. If you were just a bloke in the street you wouldn't have to worry as to control the world, you're gonna need the bloke in the street.

@Screwd. If you sack all the truck drivers will that make society easier to control?