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He makes a lot of mistakes...
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I've said it before, I don't think these sorts of world leader jobs are appropriate for the over 70s - too demanding, too stressful.

Trump made similar 'mistakes' but Biden's detractors seemed curiously shy about highlighting those at the time.
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Potter wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 1:18 pm Trump is stark raving mad, Biden is senile.
The problem with the US system seems to be that far too often the choice is between mad and senile. Given that choice senile seems a reasonable bet.
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Hoonercat wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 7:04 am
Ant wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 9:11 pm
Hoonercat wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 8:59 pm

And, given your 'out telling lies again' comment, you evidently decided that the most watched man on the planet was deliberately lying about something that could be checked in a few seconds, even though he corrected himself immediately. It's people like you, and the person who made the original accusation, that are the problem, not Twitter.
So you see him as being the most watched man on the planet to mean that all he says is well and true, interesting.
No, that's not what I said at all. When someone immediately corrects themself without being challenged, it's a mistake, not a lie.
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People such as me are the problem?

What exactly is the problem?
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Cousin Jack wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:06 pm
Potter wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 1:18 pm Trump is stark raving mad, Biden is senile.
The problem with the US system seems to be that far too often the choice is between mad and senile. Given that choice senile seems a reasonable bet.
Difference being that love him or hate him, you know it when Trump is in the room. He is a natural leader, what he does with that authority is up for question though all things considered, his presidency was not a disaster.

Compare that with Biden. When he is (nominally) in the room, no one really notices. A frail weak puppet who is supposed to be the most powerful individual on the planet. It has been a disaster. The USA is weakened now, plagued with debt, rampant inflation, crime, immigration, you name it, it's a disaster. I wonder if it will ever recover.

The BIG problem with having a weak leader and a weak US is that unelected faceless global corporations and asset management firms are at the controls. All they want is more money for themselves. It's not rocket science. All they have to do is grease the palms of the rest of the corrupt politicians by so called "lobbying" i.e. "do this thing for me and I'll give you money". If that isn't bribery then I don't know what is.

I reassured myself that while I can see the obvious path to global authoritarianism, not so far from the "great reset" bollocks, I really thought I'm so old I won't live to see my world entirely "owned" by these business entities.

Of course, these plans must ultimately fail since the greedy super rich are also super old and they actually don't care about the next generation, just their own selfish individual lives. Then it dawned on me that in that case, they will accelerate these to plans come to fruition within their lifetime which might coincide with mine. And yours..

A decade tops because even for the super rich, their human frailty is the same as ours and of course they want it all before they die.

We are so fucked...
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The only global industries thst have much impact on me are pharma and oil. Oil is still keen on fossil stuff, so that may be bad for the planet but coincides with my preferences. Pharma still wants to sell me meds so thats ok too.

Twitter, FB, et al I really DGAS.
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Screwdriver wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:38 pm Difference being that love him or hate him, you know it when Trump is in the room. He is a natural leader, what he does with that authority is up for question though all things considered, his presidency was not a disaster.

Compare that with Biden. When he is (nominally) in the room, no one really notices. A frail weak puppet who is supposed to be the most powerful individual on the planet. It has been a disaster. The USA is weakened now, plagued with debt, rampant inflation, crime, immigration, you name it, it's a disaster. I wonder if it will ever recover.
You seem to be letting Trump off and yet really digging Biden out?
Both are quite obviously not capable, suitable of presidency, both are quite likely impacted by their age.

Of course Trump's presidency was a disaster - he was a laughing stock - it couldn't have been any worse . If anything COVID papered over the cracks because it was all reaction to an unprecedented situation. Most of his mumbo jumbo analysis was laughable - but he got away way with it because he could just question the statistics or point and laugh at other countries that were doing no better.
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I wouldn't call Trump strong personally, or a great leader. I'd say he manipulates, he doesn't lead.

He's loud, for sure.

I once saw him described as "a weak man's idea of a strong man and a dumb man's idea of a smart man", which seemed pretty fair to me. :lol:
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 3:01 pm I wouldn't call Trump strong personally, or a great leader. I'd say he manipulates, he doesn't lead.

He's loud, for sure.

I once saw him described as "a weak man's idea of a strong man and a dumb man's idea of a smart man", which seemed pretty fair to me. :lol:
That is both insulting and nonsensical.

I like Trump because he is a maverick and not in cahoots with big pharma, big tech etc. The rest of the political elites are really only in it for their own personal gain. Yes he is a big, dumb loudmouth but he is not a swamp creature and my impression of him is that he wanted to be, you know "the best president ever" [/Trump] unlike the current mob who want to be the richest...

As for being a laughing stock; that was and still is entirely an invention of the mainstream media. He is still an incredibly popular figure and if that means "populist" so be it. The fact still stands, he is still a popular figure among a good half of the US population and that is despite the outrageous lies still being perpetrated by the mainstream media and ongoing big tech censorship.

Do you believe Hilary Clinton's "Russian collusion" conspiracy? Just that one massive lie is an outrageous indictment of the extraordinary partisan nature of the judicial and federal law enforcement system. Rotten to the core. Is the Hunter Biden laptop and the millions of dollars paid by the CCP to the Biden mafia also "Russian disinformation"? What did they get for their money.

I still find it quite incredible that Trump was impeached for trying to find out what the Biden mafia were up to in Ukraine. did we ever find out exactly what the Bidens were up to before Ukraine turned into a shitstorm? Did Hilary Clinton ever pay for her made up Russian disinformation campaign?

I agree, no one is perfect and age, mental acuity should be a barrier to these roles but if you believe all the made up nonsense about Trump, you're in no position to start calling people dumb.
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I laugh at Trump because of what I've seen him do/say. That car crash interview he did with the Aussie journalist during the Pandemic for example. Or the whole "if you take out the blue states, we're doing better" arugment...was he not president in those states then? :lol: You could find a million examples of him contradicting himself, saying stuff which is just plain wrong or deliberately misrepresenting stuff. He's hardly alone in that of course.

If you look at his financial history too it's obvious he's a fucking massive crook.

The whole "in spite of people going after him" argument you hear all the time is BS too IMO. He's popular in part because people go after him. Everyone loves an underdog, even a Billionaire one.

His biggest trick however has been convincing everyone that he's not part of "Big XXX" and is fact just like you and me.
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Screwdriver wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 3:50 pm
As for being a laughing stock; that was and still is entirely an invention of the mainstream media. He is still an incredibly popular figure and if that means "populist" so be it. The fact still stands, he is still a popular figure among a good half of the US population and that is despite the outrageous lies still being perpetrated by the mainstream media and ongoing big tech censorship.
You really weren't aware that everyone outside the dumb faithful of his admirers were laughing at him? (More hilarious than Boris, because despite showing similar character traits at least he shows some education). This isn't make believe and what came out of his mouth wasn't made up or doctored. You'd have to have had your head firmly in the sand to find Trump's presidency anything other than excruciating. Yeah I get that he's 'fun' and 'he takes no nonsense' but you also need diplomacy and tact and know when it is better to say nothing rather than autop-vomit the contents of your head onto twitter.

I can't really take the scrutiny of Biden very seriously when the same people are so easily dazzlingly blinded by Trump.
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Trump, boosted the economy, kept Putin at bay and restored peace between north and south korea, Biden comes in, cocks it all up. I don't care if he's a funny orange buffoon, I know which version of life I preferred....
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'The laptop' taken into the repair shop of a registered blind man who couldn't identify the person that brought it in? Then saw something on it that bothered him? That laptop?

If anyone has the slightest interest in this bloody laptop and 10 minutes of their life to waste I suggest they read this : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Bi ... ontroversy I know that the defence will (of course) be 'Oh, Wikipedia is .........' but some of it is just reporting documented events and responses. A Republican (Marjorie Taylor Green of Georgia) tried to indict Biden senior on the basis of it and got zero support from anyone, not even the Republicans.

Money buys power, power makes money. JFKs father bought him an election using money made during prohibition, currently the founder of Nike is trying to 'buy' Oregon for a Republican, industries fund campaigns all over the shop. That's the way it works, they're just more open about it in the USA.
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Even if you're a Trump supporter you've got to enjoy just a little bit the fact he himself might be stung by the "lock her up" law he was so proud to create. Come on, that's pretty funny :D
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It's all a bit "tinfoil hat" on this thread
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Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 4:37 pm It's all a bit "tinfoil hat" on this thread
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DefTrap wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 4:07 pm You really weren't aware that everyone outside the dumb faithful of his admirers were laughing at him? (More hilarious than Boris, because despite showing similar character traits at least he shows some education). This isn't make believe and what came out of his mouth wasn't made up or doctored. You'd have to have had your head firmly in the sand to find Trump's presidency anything other than excruciating. Yeah I get that he's 'fun' and 'he takes no nonsense' but you also need diplomacy and tact and know when it is better to say nothing rather than autop-vomit the contents of your head onto twitter.

I can't really take the scrutiny of Biden very seriously .
I am aware of "it" I saw most of it for what it was; orange man bad.

If we could steer clear of the "dumb" commentary then we might have a civilised discussion on some of the hilarious Trumpisms rather than the empty rhetoric you offer above. There is no actual information in your post, just a non specific criticism, "make believe", "doctored", "excruciating" yeah great. What exactly was make believe, doctored etc. Let's have some examples.

No doubt you will have to rely on the old "I can't be bothered" defence...

True to say I like Boris for approximately the same reasons. They are both characters who represent (to me) their respective national identities. Posh, well spoken and classically educated vs. brash loudmouthed and narcissistic.

We digress. To say that you can't accept any criticism of Biden "when the same people are so easily dazzlingly blinded by Trump" is extraordinarily narrow minded. Biden is a disaster.
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Count Steer wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 4:30 pm 'The laptop' taken into the repair shop of a registered blind man who couldn't identify the person that brought it in? Then saw something on it that bothered him? That laptop?
LOL. That is hilarious. Where on earth did you dig that up?

It is factually true to say the laptop belonged to HB. There are a ton of images on that laptop of him smoking crack, whoring etc. More interestingly, lots of emails pointing to various deals and meetings which have been linked to external financial transactions and real world events.

It is unlikely ever to be fully investigated until or unless the FBI stop being the operating arm of the democratic party.
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 4:34 pm Even if you're a Trump supporter you've got to enjoy just a little bit the fact he himself might be stung by the "lock her up" law he was so proud to create. Come on, that's pretty funny :D
It would be even funnier if Hilary Clinton ever was prosecuted for inventing a Russian collusion hoax. Those people Like Nancy Pelosi are basically untouchable. They can do whatever they like, insider trading, drink driving, collusion with CCP agents etc. and so long as the FBI turn a blind eye of cover their tracks, they will continue to do so.

I don't find that funny at all sadly.
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Screwdriver wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 5:21 pm
We digress. To say that you can't accept any criticism of Biden "when the same people are so easily dazzlingly blinded by Trump" is extraordinarily narrow minded. Biden is a disaster.
Nope, not that I can't accept it, that I can't take the Biden analysis very seriously from such a skewed perspective. You've obviously done your homework but it's rather pointless getting forensic if you're happy to ignore, or be completely wrong IMO, about a very similar situation. I wouldn't take fashion advice from a blind man, if you want to put it bluntly - and I don't mean that rudely, I'm really doing my best not to give you an opportunity to refocus this onto something quite different.

I've not said anything about Trump was make-believe or doctored by the way - I implied that Trump's supporters are able to watch him live and with his own words but come to a different conclusion to the r-o-w or explain it away as false news. So yes, in that sense make believe and doctored.