Valencia Motogp
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Valencia Motogp
With Fabio Quartararo 23 points behind Bagnaia,it'll take a win from the Yamaha rider and no score from the Ducati man for Fabio to claim the title.
I know anything can happen in racing,but it looks to be over bar the shouting.
I know anything can happen in racing,but it looks to be over bar the shouting.
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Re: Valencia Motogp
You'd also assume Ducati as a mass of riders will help him out if needed. Theoretical but they could pull 8 riders out and even if he was 10 laps down he could still get some points lol.
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Re: Valencia Motogp
...right up the moment Bautista takes Pecco and himself out trying to take the lead and Quartararo inherits first place!
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Re: Valencia Motogp
The highlight of the weekend will be the tests on Monday and Tuesday.
See if the Yamaha will be competitive in 2023.
See if the Yamaha will be competitive in 2023.
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Re: Valencia Motogp
Or Bastianini even? Unless Alvaro has sneaked back into Motogp.
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Re: Valencia Motogp
Vinales and Zarco will win all the tests.
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Re: Valencia Motogp
Crutchlow is the main test rider so knows all about the 2023 bike.
He hasn't been convincing when asked about it.
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Re: Valencia Motogp
I'm forever doing that....
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Re: Valencia Motogp
How long have Yamaha riders complained about the bike? Right back from before Rossi retired the lack of straightline speed was an issue,yet here we are years later...
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Re: Valencia Motogp
It's not in Yamaha's DNA to do mega horsepower, hence the same complaints we've heard about that ever since Rainey was winning.
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Re: Valencia Motogp
The problem for them is, Ducati have upped their game in terms of both power AND handling....so Yamaha can't use their handling prowess to it's advantage now. I think the days where you can compensate for a bad aspect of a bike are now over as technology has pushed braking, handling, cornering that far that just a fraction of a disadvantage, you may as well stay at home.westers151 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 8:08 am It's not in Yamaha's DNA to do mega horsepower, hence the same complaints we've heard about that ever since Rainey was winning.
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Re: Valencia Motogp
I don't think they have a choice really. THe simple dynamics is, they're a shit load off the pace for everyone apart from Quat and even he has fallen apart a bit.. So they either accept mediocrity, or they change the game and change the bike. I'd assume they've all thought of this though... but we've thought that with Honda for years now and their bike is universally slated as being bloody rubbish for anyone apart from MM.
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Re: Valencia Motogp
Guinters just said that Bastianini will be balls out to get 3rd in the championship. That's worth half million extra. Wow.
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Re: Valencia Motogp
Quartararo has changed his gloves & boots from red to blue. Championship's over.
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Re: Valencia Motogp
POS RIDER NAT TEAM TIME/DIFF LAP MAX
1 Fabio Quartararo FRA Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1) 1'31.399s 14/23 324k
2 Marc Marquez SPA Repsol Honda (RC213V) +0.035s 6/17 324k
3 Brad Binder RSA Red Bull KTM (RC16) +0.071s 20/20 329k
4 Jack Miller AUS Ducati Lenovo (GP22) +0.143s 8/22 331k
5 Alex Rins SPA Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) +0.165s 19/19 327k
6 Johann Zarco FRA Pramac Ducati (GP22) +0.285s 22/23 323k
7 Jorge Martin SPA Pramac Ducati (GP22) +0.363s 18/20 329k
8 Miguel Oliveira POR Red Bull KTM (RC16) +0.376s 13/19 326k
9 Aleix Espargaro SPA Aprilia Racing (RS-GP) +0.383s 9/18 327k
10 Joan Mir SPA Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) +0.410s 14/20 331k
11 Luca Marini ITA Mooney VR46 Ducati (GP22) +0.475s 19/21 327k
12 Raul Fernandez SPA KTM Tech3 (RC16)* +0.482s 17/19 323k
13 Franco Morbidelli ITA Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1) +0.516s 8/20 321k
14 Enea Bastianini ITA Gresini Ducati (GP21) +0.518s 15/22 329k
15 Remy Gardner AUS KTM Tech3 (RC16)* +0.578s 17/19 323k
16 Maverick Viñales SPA Aprilia Racing (RS-GP) +0.594s 4/18 329k
17 Francesco Bagnaia ITA Ducati Lenovo (GP22) +0.600s 19/19 329k
18 Alex Marquez SPA LCR Honda (RC213V) +0.669s 6/19 324k
19 Pol Espargaro SPA Repsol Honda (RC213V) +0.717s 4/21 326k
20 Marco Bezzecchi ITA Mooney VR46 Ducati (GP21)* +0.760s 14/18 327k
21 Cal Crutchlow GBR WithU Yamaha RNF (YZR-M1) +0.875s 19/20 324k
22 Fabio Di Giannantonio ITA Gresini Ducati (GP21)* +1.205s 17/19 326k
23 Takaaki Nakagami JPN LCR Honda (RC213V) +1.583s 17/21 324k
24 Darryn Binder RSA WithU Yamaha RNF (YZR-M1)* +2.570s 7/9 320k
1 Fabio Quartararo FRA Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1) 1'31.399s 14/23 324k
2 Marc Marquez SPA Repsol Honda (RC213V) +0.035s 6/17 324k
3 Brad Binder RSA Red Bull KTM (RC16) +0.071s 20/20 329k
4 Jack Miller AUS Ducati Lenovo (GP22) +0.143s 8/22 331k
5 Alex Rins SPA Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) +0.165s 19/19 327k
6 Johann Zarco FRA Pramac Ducati (GP22) +0.285s 22/23 323k
7 Jorge Martin SPA Pramac Ducati (GP22) +0.363s 18/20 329k
8 Miguel Oliveira POR Red Bull KTM (RC16) +0.376s 13/19 326k
9 Aleix Espargaro SPA Aprilia Racing (RS-GP) +0.383s 9/18 327k
10 Joan Mir SPA Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) +0.410s 14/20 331k
11 Luca Marini ITA Mooney VR46 Ducati (GP22) +0.475s 19/21 327k
12 Raul Fernandez SPA KTM Tech3 (RC16)* +0.482s 17/19 323k
13 Franco Morbidelli ITA Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1) +0.516s 8/20 321k
14 Enea Bastianini ITA Gresini Ducati (GP21) +0.518s 15/22 329k
15 Remy Gardner AUS KTM Tech3 (RC16)* +0.578s 17/19 323k
16 Maverick Viñales SPA Aprilia Racing (RS-GP) +0.594s 4/18 329k
17 Francesco Bagnaia ITA Ducati Lenovo (GP22) +0.600s 19/19 329k
18 Alex Marquez SPA LCR Honda (RC213V) +0.669s 6/19 324k
19 Pol Espargaro SPA Repsol Honda (RC213V) +0.717s 4/21 326k
20 Marco Bezzecchi ITA Mooney VR46 Ducati (GP21)* +0.760s 14/18 327k
21 Cal Crutchlow GBR WithU Yamaha RNF (YZR-M1) +0.875s 19/20 324k
22 Fabio Di Giannantonio ITA Gresini Ducati (GP21)* +1.205s 17/19 326k
23 Takaaki Nakagami JPN LCR Honda (RC213V) +1.583s 17/21 324k
24 Darryn Binder RSA WithU Yamaha RNF (YZR-M1)* +2.570s 7/9 320k
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Re: Valencia Motogp
The way practice is going it seems like they're all trying to use up the last of the spares for this year's bikes.