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Just to confirm, join the dots, whatever:
- French government own EDF
- EDF have 22% of the UK electricity generation
- UK government subsidise UK power
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Potter wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:22 am and they'll still have to run the company at an estimated loss running into tens of billions a year.
Yup, not all roses. IIRC they have maintenance backlog issues which have resulted in several power stations being offline.

October 19, 2022

Strikes at France's nuclear power plants have affected about a third of its reactors, in many cases delaying maintenance work and complicating operator EDF's (EDF.PA) efforts to boost production ahead of winter.

Currently 20 out of 56 reactors have been impacted, a union official said on Wednesday. Of these, maintenance plans of 17 have been disrupted, with some seeing their restart schedule delayed by a few days and some by up to three weeks.
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There are a lot of posts to read through to be fair, probably took 'em a while to get there.
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Genuine question: what have these two goons been found guilty of, exactly?


BBC News - Wayne Couzens: PCs in WhatsApp group with Sarah Everard killer jailed
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-62995926
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gremlin wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 4:57 pm Genuine question: what have these two goons been found guilty of, exactly?


BBC News - Wayne Couzens: PCs in WhatsApp group with Sarah Everard killer jailed
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-62995926
Section 127 of the Communications Act 2003 creates offences of sending, or causing to be sent, by means of a public electronic communications network, a message or other matter that is grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene or menacing character.

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Presumably its always been potentially illegal (well not always) to send hate mail for example, so it makes sense that the law now extends to electronic communication.

When you're sending it to someone who actually wants to receive it though? Bit more dubious.

In the context of this case; Not sure where I stand really.
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 5:37 pm Presumably its always been potentially illegal (well not always) to send hate mail for example, so it makes sense that the law now extends to electronic communication.

When you're sending it to someone who actually wants to receive it though? Bit more dubious.

In the context of this case; Not sure where I stand really.
Clearly someone saw it who wasn't a direct recipient.

If you catch someone with offensive material like that, then I assume most of us would happily dob them in to the plod. If I recall correctly, the offending "message" contained pictures of some murder victims. I seem to recall they had also made some joke about it or messed about with the bodies...

There is a line of course but that sort of behaviour is well over it imho.
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I've not actually looked at what they were sending. I don't really want to if I'm perfectly honest.
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:25 pm I've not actually looked at what they were sending. I don't really want to if I'm perfectly honest.
Me neither, I just remember some snippets from the furore at the time...
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Potter wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 12:50 pm https://www.bbc.com/news/business-63474176
Bank of England has begun to unwind quantitive easing.

It's as if they went back to March 2021 on this forum and read my posts about what to do to sort out inflation.

"If we want to get on top of inflation we need to get on top of this. It's not the whole part of the equation, there is interest rates, there is fiscal policy [government tax and spending decisions], as well as reversing QE - they are all pushing in the same direction."

Which is a good thing, because even as recently as six weeks ago their position was this...
No no no, it's Liz Truss's fault (ignore that her policies never came into affect).
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Count Steer wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 5:02 pm
gremlin wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 4:57 pm Genuine question: what have these two goons been found guilty of, exactly?


BBC News - Wayne Couzens: PCs in WhatsApp group with Sarah Everard killer jailed
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-62995926
Section 127 of the Communications Act 2003 creates offences of sending, or causing to be sent, by means of a public electronic communications network, a message or other matter that is grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene or menacing character.

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Fucking hell, that's most forums, social media closed then....
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Ant wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:27 pm
Count Steer wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 5:02 pm
gremlin wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 4:57 pm Genuine question: what have these two goons been found guilty of, exactly?


BBC News - Wayne Couzens: PCs in WhatsApp group with Sarah Everard killer jailed
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-62995926
Section 127 of the Communications Act 2003 creates offences of sending, or causing to be sent, by means of a public electronic communications network, a message or other matter that is grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene or menacing character.

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Fucking hell, that's most forums, social media closed then....
Why? WhatsApp wasn't in the dock, just the senders.
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Count Steer wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:45 pm
Ant wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:27 pm
Count Steer wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 5:02 pm

Section 127 of the Communications Act 2003 creates offences of sending, or causing to be sent, by means of a public electronic communications network, a message or other matter that is grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene or menacing character.

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Fucking hell, that's most forums, social media closed then....
Why? WhatsApp wasn't in the dock, just the senders.
I'm offended.
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Screwdriver wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:05 pm
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 5:37 pm Presumably its always been potentially illegal (well not always) to send hate mail for example, so it makes sense that the law now extends to electronic communication.

When you're sending it to someone who actually wants to receive it though? Bit more dubious.

In the context of this case; Not sure where I stand really.
Clearly someone saw it who wasn't a direct recipient.

If you catch someone with offensive material like that, then I assume most of us would happily dob them in to the plod. If I recall correctly, the offending "message" contained pictures of some murder victims. I seem to recall they had also made some joke about it or messed about with the bodies...

There is a line of course but that sort of behaviour is well over it imho.
I might be mistaken, but I think you're referring to the behaviour of some plod who took photos of those two dead sisters murdered by the fruit loop who wanted a lottery win.

These two were in a group with Sarah Everard's killer. As far as I can see, they were clearly horrible little cnuts, but I wondered if they were being made an example of for something we could, in theory all be charged with or whether it was a 'misconduct in a public office' type thing. Reporting seems a little vague.
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They were charged as stated in the article:

Cobban was found guilty of three counts of sending grossly offensive messages, while Borders was convicted of five charges.

(And, of course, with that don't have a leg to stand on in any dismissal argument).
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gremlin wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 8:13 pm I might be mistaken, but I think you're referring to the behaviour of some plod who took photos of those two dead sisters murdered by the fruit loop who wanted a lottery win.
Yes, I think I am. Hey ho. I try to steer clear of those sorts of things and I assumed it was the above you refer to. Normally I fact check myself on Google but I really didn't want to go there...
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Never mind all that inflation or invasion bollox, it's time for the hard hitting stories.

Personally I think it's the best one, but WTF do I know?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63497187
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 1:16 pm Never mind all that inflation or invasion bollox, it's time for the hard hitting stories.

Personally I think it's the best one, but WTF do I know?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63497187
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 1:16 pm Never mind all that inflation or invasion bollox, it's time for the hard hitting stories.

Personally I think it's the best one, but WTF do I know?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63497187
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