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The alarm on the wife’s bike is playing up, I’m fairly confident it’s dying batteries within the key fob so I’ve ordered some, failing that it’ll be a complete removal of the bastardin cuntin fuck!

Great when they work well, nightmare when they play up, had to replace the battery as well as that had died a death but that was my fault for not sticking the trickle charger on, I had for a while but unhooked it one day and forgot to hook it back up.

Still got some other jobs to do to the bike as well but this is priority for now.
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Bike alarms = spawn of satan :)
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That's why I get Hawk alarms Demon or some such. Cheap, makes a lots of noise and is easy to install. You have a choice of really simple to full blown Thatcham level. Used them for years without any problems.
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Batteries arrived so fired them in the fob and nothing, no difference. So the issue is the alarm itself.

I’ll strip it off the bike after work tomorrow and that will be that, should have done that years ago but it’s been fine until recently, there was tell tale signs that something was starting to go wrong, then it would maybe work every 10 times you pressed the button which made me believe it was more the fob itself but obviously not.
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The alarm box itself will have a battery (for if the bikes main battery gets disconnected), might be worth looking if that can cause issues and if it's replaceable.
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KungFooBob wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 7:00 pm The alarm box itself will have a battery (for if the bikes main battery gets disconnected), might be worth looking if that can cause issues and if it's replaceable.
I’ll have a read online see if it’s accessible, I know it has a tamper proof wiring block which you can get to with a drill and some perseverance. You can bridge the pins which bypasses the alarm but I’d just be as well removing it and returning it to how it was originally.

Battery is all connected up and the wiring is good so it should in theory work regardless of the back battery or whatever it has when battery is disconnected.
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wull wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 6:55 pm Batteries arrived so fired them in the fob and nothing, no difference. So the issue is the alarm itself.

I’ll strip it off the bike after work tomorrow and that will be that, should have done that years ago but it’s been fine until recently, there was tell tale signs that something was starting to go wrong, then it would maybe work every 10 times you pressed the button which made me believe it was more the fob itself but obviously not.
I’ve got a dead alarm on my Fireblade.I’ve. Ive no details with it and no fob etc but it’s not drawing the battery - one of the long term goals is to remove it but I’m even worse at electrics than I am at spannering.
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Hate alarms, the only actual breakdown I've ever had was the immobiliser on the alarm on my KTM Duke II.
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Alarms serve a dual no-purpose. Nobody takes a blind bit of notice of them when they do go off (other than annoyance) and they can and do fail at the worst possible time and immobilise the bike while doing so. I would never have one fitted to a bike and the only bike I bought (secondhand) with one fitted, I removed it PDQ.
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What others have said,alarms are a ballache. Depending on area,some insurance companies make you fit one,but I'd never by choice.

Years ago I removed a Datatool from a Fireblade,it was a slow painstaking process,one wire at a time.
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Just to counter everyone else's point.

I had a Meta fitted to my new R6 in 1999. For the three years I had the bike it worked perfectly and never let me down over 21,000 miles.

My GS has the factory alarm fitted, it's all integrated and works perfectly, the siren is a bit quiet tho'
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Swing's n roundabouts.
The Datatool on my Triumph was a steaming pile of poo, but easy to ditch as all you need is a jumper to plug into the loom.
Whatever is fitted to the Harley has given me no problems at all, except for me forgetting the have the fob in my pocket when moving it around the garage.


I've got one of these in the garage, keep meaning to find something to fit it to
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I’ve been off work today because the wee man is poorly so went out and made a start on the wiring whilst he was having a nap.

That’s it done, not completely done as in I still have to tidy it all up but I exposed all the wiring, sussed out what was needed and connected up the original loom quickly just to see if it’ll work, and it works fine.

Job this evening when the wife gets home is remove the wires which have tapped into the indicator and lights, then do the important ones properly with the solder and that.


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Now you'll restart the debate of whether soldering the wires is doing it "properly" or not.

Looking at Alloa on the map and seeing it's on the seaside, then considering some of these wires interrupt the bike's start & run circuits, I'd want something completely waterproof to also keep out sea air that will eventually turn the soldered wires green. Even more so in case they tap into anything with a 5v signal on it.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Connectors-Wat ... 07GDHXN21
Either way, congrats on the exorcism :)
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A_morti wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:24 pm Now you'll restart the debate of whether soldering the wires is doing it "properly" or not.

Looking at Alloa on the map and seeing it's on the seaside, then considering some of these wires interrupt the bike's start & run circuits, I'd want something completely waterproof to also keep out sea air that will eventually turn the soldered wires green. Even more so in case they tap into anything with a 5v signal on it.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Connectors-Wat ... 07GDHXN21
Either way, congrats on the exorcism :)
I have various methods plus the paste to keep it nice and sealed, I also have them soldering sleeve thingy mabobs, I forget what they’re called. Either way it’ll be better than it was with the alarm fitted.
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MrLongbeard wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 12:47 pm Swing's n roundabouts.
The Datatool on my Triumph was a steaming pile of poo, but easy to ditch as all you need is a jumper to plug into the loom.
Whatever is fitted to the Harley has given me no problems at all, except for me forgetting the have the fob in my pocket when moving it around the garage.


I've got one of these in the garage, keep meaning to find something to fit it to
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Heap of shite

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That’s better.

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wull wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:36 pm Heap of shite

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From Halfords, I think they’re up to £16 for a pack of 6 now. They were £10 when I first started buying them.