What would win your vote?

[slowsider]

Unlimited free clutches for all Triumph motorcycles!

Dont you have that already ?

[Trinity765]

Unlimited free clutches for all Triumph motorcycles!

Dont you have that already ?

[Cousin Jack]

Free beer for pensioners.

[Yorick]

Free beer for pensioners.

(Hic)

[ChrisW]

Televised death matches

[demographic]

The compulsory serving of asparagus at breakfast.

Is Marsh Samphire an acceptable substitute?
At least I know somewhere I can pick that for nowt (at the right time of year) and it looks kind of similar.
Well, maybe on a different scale.

[cheb]

Seems fair, it's prevalent round here too. Much favoured by people who also eat seaweed.

[Jody]

Shake up of the personal property system:

All searches etc are performed by the estate agent BEFORE they are allowed to list the house. Costs of the fees to form part of the cost to the seller (buyer doesn't pay any). All Sales of private property must complete in 5 working days.

And to help that happen

Guaranteed acceptance of mortgage with payments at 80% of your current rent payment if you have made 36 consecutive payments on time. To balance that, if you do default in the first 10 years you lose everything. However if you are struggling, mortgage terms can be extended to reduce payments.

Taxes on 2nd homes to be huge.

Taxes on BTL and rental property income to be huge.

Those last two will free up properties for all those people now able to buy!

I say all this as someone who has had a BTL property for the last 15ish years!

[Ant]

Basically for most of you, what would win your vote is if the government gave you some money, either directly or through some sort of benefits.

The replies on this thread support what Orwell knew, that once many of you got into a position of power then you'd gradually start shifting money into your own pockets, it's what these politicians are doing.

Exactly. It's the screams of I can't have it, so I don't want anyone else to have it, from the bitter envious left of politics.

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

Basically for most of you, what would win your vote is if the government gave you some money, either directly or through some sort of benefits.

The replies on this thread support what Orwell knew, that once many of you got into a position of power then you'd gradually start shifting money into your own pockets, it's what these politicians are doing.

Fucking too right, free petrol and chips for the Cheese, I don't like working, it's dull, but I have to work to pay for the shit I want to do.

Though giving middle income people in Britain is generally a waste of time because all they do with it is inflate house prices, then whine about how expensive houses are while being smug about how much their house is worth.

If you're going to hand out money give it to the people who'll piss it up against the wall and put it back into the economy and generate jobs.

As for raising retirement age, this is a particularly stupid and short sighted thing to do, all it does is keep old people in jobs and keep young people out of jobs, I've been doing much the same job for the last 25 years, and somebody 20 years younger than me could probably do it better, but I'm going to have to hang on for another 12 years because I can't afford to retire without the state pension.

[Mussels]

Shake up of the personal property system:

All searches etc are performed by the estate agent BEFORE they are allowed to list the house. Costs of the fees to form part of the cost to the seller (buyer doesn't pay any). All Sales of private property must complete in 5 working days.

And to help that happen

Guaranteed acceptance of mortgage with payments at 80% of your current rent payment if you have made 36 consecutive payments on time. To balance that, if you do default in the first 10 years you lose everything. However if you are struggling, mortgage terms can be extended to reduce payments.

Taxes on 2nd homes to be huge.

Taxes on BTL and rental property income to be huge.

Those last two will free up properties for all those people now able to buy!

I say all this as someone who has had a BTL property for the last 15ish years!

Will that not just drive the price of renting sky high so many people can't afford it?

[v8-powered]

Shake up of the personal property system:

All searches etc are performed by the estate agent BEFORE they are allowed to list the house. Costs of the fees to form part of the cost to the seller (buyer doesn't pay any). All Sales of private property must complete in 5 working days.

And to help that happen

Guaranteed acceptance of mortgage with payments at 80% of your current rent payment if you have made 36 consecutive payments on time. To balance that, if you do default in the first 10 years you lose everything. However if you are struggling, mortgage terms can be extended to reduce payments.

Taxes on 2nd homes to be huge.

Taxes on BTL and rental property income to be huge.

Those last two will free up properties for all those people now able to buy!

I say all this as someone who has had a BTL property for the last 15ish years!

Will that not just drive the price of renting sky high so many people can't afford it?

Yep - agree.
They do that and I'll put a big family out on the streets and I'll sell the house for a tidy profit. I don't make an awful lot of profit after tax, agent fees etc anyway and have left their rent the same for over 5 years, they'd never get a house like they live in currently.
I'm not a big greedy landlord, just a normal bloke that is fortunate enough to have a nice 2nd home that I choose to rent out - tax me any more on the property and they can do one......

[Mr. Dazzle]

As for raising retirement age, this is a particularly stupid and short sighted thing to do, all it does is keep old people in jobs and keep young people out of jobs, I've been doing much the same job for the last 25 years, and somebody 20 years younger than me could probably do it better, but I'm going to have to hang on for another 12 years because I can't afford to retire without the state pension.

Something has to change though.

Ageing population and energy shortage/security are the coming storms - they're already here in fact. They make any concerns about inheritance tax or immigration look like a fart in the wind. Retirement age has gone up by a couple of years in the last decades, average life expectancy has gone up a decade or two in the same period. People need to either work longer, pay more in while they are working, or die sooner.

Similar story with energy, the commotion were seeing now is just a taste of what the next half century potentially has in store.

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

As for raising retirement age, this is a particularly stupid and short sighted thing to do, all it does is keep old people in jobs and keep young people out of jobs, I've been doing much the same job for the last 25 years, and somebody 20 years younger than me could probably do it better, but I'm going to have to hang on for another 12 years because I can't afford to retire without the state pension.

Something has to change though.

Ageing population and energy shortage/security are the coming storms - they're already here in fact. They make any concerns about inheritance tax or immigration look like a fart in the wind. Retirement age has gone up by a couple of years in the last decades, average life expectancy has gone up a decade or two in the same period. People need to either work longer, pay more in while they are working, or die sooner.

Similar story with energy, the commotion were seeing now is just a taste of what the next half century potentially has in store.

Live fast, die younger, there's too many old people being used as cash cows by old people's homes, they're kept alive like hot house flowers for no reason, I'd rather be dead than live like that.

[Yorick]

Shake up of the personal property system:

All searches etc are performed by the estate agent BEFORE they are allowed to list the house. Costs of the fees to form part of the cost to the seller (buyer doesn't pay any). All Sales of private property must complete in 5 working days.

And to help that happen

Guaranteed acceptance of mortgage with payments at 80% of your current rent payment if you have made 36 consecutive payments on time. To balance that, if you do default in the first 10 years you lose everything. However if you are struggling, mortgage terms can be extended to reduce payments.

Taxes on 2nd homes to be huge.

Taxes on BTL and rental property income to be huge.

Those last two will free up properties for all those people now able to buy!

I say all this as someone who has had a BTL property for the last 15ish years!

Will that not just drive the price of renting sky high so many people can't afford it?

Yep - agree.
They do that and I'll put a big family out on the streets and I'll sell the house for a tidy profit. I don't make an awful lot of profit after tax, agent fees etc anyway and have left their rent the same for over 5 years, they'd never get a house like they live in currently.
I'm not a big greedy landlord, just a normal bloke that is fortunate enough to have a nice 2nd home that I choose to rent out - tax me any more on the property and they can do one......

Ed Zackerly. Just providing a service. Same as a shop owner making money from everyone they serve. They don't care if the buyer is skint.

[MingtheMerciless]

Flogging posts on the trading floors and outside parliament for all those bankers and politicians that damage the economy by greed, fuckwittery or corruption.

Nuclear fusion research to be tax incentivised, building of the Severn hydro scheme be it conventional dam or lagoon system (along with a UHVDC transmission spine around the country).

Medical isotope and research reactor to be built (these are becoming few and far between around the world).

Wind and wave power manufacturing companies to be UK based/owned and classified in such a way as to stop them being bought out by overseas companies.

[DefTrap]

I've been doing much the same job for the last 25 years, and somebody 20 years younger than me could probably do it better, but I'm going to have to hang on for another 12 years because I can't afford to retire without the state pension.

They could almost certainly do it cheaper, but better is arguable. A lot of places hire less experienced newbies in the hope that they will do it different and that will automatically be better. It's possible but it's a lot to do with mentoring. I've seen some very persuasive managers hire cheap and inexperienced staff on the promise that they will be quickly mentored in to shape - without proper guidance it was catastrophic.

Back to the OP. Of course I want more money in my pocket. I also want stable, thoughtful government that isn't 60% about The Party beating itself to death, 30% going on holiday, and 10% policy making.

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

I've been doing much the same job for the last 25 years, and somebody 20 years younger than me could probably do it better, but I'm going to have to hang on for another 12 years because I can't afford to retire without the state pension.

They could almost certainly do it cheaper, but better is arguable. A lot of places hire less experienced newbies in the hope that they will do it different and that will automatically be better. It's possible but it's a lot to do with mentoring. I've seen some very persuasive managers hire cheap and inexperienced staff on the promise that they will be quickly mentored in to shape - without proper guidance it was catastrophic.

Back to the OP. Of course I want more money in my pocket. I also want stable, thoughtful government that isn't 60% about The Party beating itself to death, 30% going on holiday, and 10% policy making.

Someone 20 years younger than me is 35, plenty of time to have enough experience

[v8-powered]

Yep - agree.
They do that and I'll put a big family out on the streets and I'll sell the house for a tidy profit. I don't make an awful lot of profit after tax, agent fees etc anyway and have left their rent the same for over 5 years, they'd never get a house like they live in currently.
I'm not a big greedy landlord, just a normal bloke that is fortunate enough to have a nice 2nd home that I choose to rent out - tax me any more on the property and they can do one......

It would be good for them though.

The price of property would drop, it wouldn't be worth you renting it out, you'd sell it and those people that currently line your pockets could buy it and keep it in their family, then their kids would never have to worry about being homeless - well until the socialists got their way and then they'd have to sell it to pay the tax burden on it.

I try to be a realist, money has to move around, that's how the world works, and if you put money into a business, the markets, financial investments, etc - then I'll compete with you and try to steer some of it in my direction, in fact I might try and clear the table and take it all, that's business, but I'll only try to win what you put on the table, I won't come after your family home via taxation or a portion your kids inheritance.

Trust me, I've told the agent that if they ever want to buy it at below market rate then I'd sell it to them however they are not able to get the mortgage for it.
If they ever find they can, it's theirs.....

[Count Steer]

Back to the OP. Of course I want more money in my pocket. I also want stable, thoughtful government that isn't 60% about The Party beating itself to death, 30% going on holiday, and 10% policy making.

Just to be contrarian I'd happily pay more tax and have less in my pocket if

a) I thought the money would be spent making the country a better place to live for this and future generations and not either, siphoned off to make a bunch of spivs richer, or handed out to any oxygen-thieving, bone idle loafers. There are countries with a higher tax burden than ours where people complain less about it because they can see that most of it isn't wasted and
b) Others (individual and business) paid their share according to their means.