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Best wishes to you Screwd, I hope the treatment, if it cannot cure the problem, can give some long-lasting relief. Please also remember that, whilst we may only be virtual friends, we ARE your friends. Come here and vent, tell us how you are feeling, we do actually care.
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Screwdriver wrote: Sat Sep 24, 2022 4:01 pm
McSatan wrote: Sat Sep 24, 2022 3:22 pm Yay for you! A little tip that might help in the battle for any future treatment. Do an SAR (subject access request, you'll be able to find the link on the hospital website) and specifically request *all* of the notes & radiology (images and records) that the hospital that treated you hold. You'll need to do this for each individual trust if it was different hospitals. They have to provide you with this within 30 days (my last part time job before completely retiring was Corporate Governance in the NHS) of acknowledging your request, it'll get sent in PDF format, and a link to the radiology site where you can download the images.

It's handy have these records for any future conversations, you'll see exactly what the specialists have diagnosed/written, their names/dates any recommendations for drugs and so on rather than trying to have to dredge things up from memory. NB, this is hospitals only, GPs are a completely different system.

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Damn that sounds like a great idea. I have tried something similar before but got nowhere. There have been multiple occasions over the years where my scans have been lost or the consultant so busy and so much time passes between appointments, cancellations, delays, they need another scan and the cycle begins again. That happened many times, over many years...
This is an example of the sort of thing you should look for on the trust/hospital website. It's free.

https://www.mtw.nhs.uk/patients-visitor ... rom=search
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Screwdriver wrote: Sat Sep 24, 2022 2:14 am I can't apologise. I was ill.
Nah yer alright. Welcome back :thumbup:
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Re: Limitless

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Welcome back Steve, Screwdriver, Deadpool, or whoever you identify as today. ;)

Take care of yourself and keep taking the tablets. :thumbup:
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Hey Steve, just seen this, sorry to hear your diagnosis but at least now you know what you are up against.
Mrs GP has Multiple Sclerosis, she was diagnosed about 4 years ago. After the initial MRI and diagnosis, she was put under the care of the Neurologist and the neurology nursing team.
Her GP is only ever in copy for what's going on and the local surgery used just for taking bloods etc. Everything else is organised by the Nursing teams and neurologist. If she is having a bad time, she goes straight to them. I'm sure there are regional variances like with everything in the NHS, but I'd be making best friends of the neurology dept.

The Meds are all about preventing further lesions on the brain. I was amazed that from the half dozen drugs on offer to her, non of them had been on the market more than 30 months - shows how fast research is progressing. The side effects pose as many problems as the MS itself but at least with Mrs GP she has no more lesions than from the first attack she had.

All the best with your battle.
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Re: Limitless

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G.P wrote: Tue Sep 27, 2022 11:08 am Hey Steve, just seen this, sorry to hear your diagnosis but at least now you know what you are up against.
Mrs GP has Multiple Sclerosis, she was diagnosed about 4 years ago. After the initial MRI and diagnosis, she was put under the care of the Neurologist and the neurology nursing team.
Her GP is only ever in copy for what's going on and the local surgery used just for taking bloods etc. Everything else is organised by the Nursing teams and neurologist. If she is having a bad time, she goes straight to them. I'm sure there are regional variances like with everything in the NHS, but I'd be making best friends of the neurology dept.

The Meds are all about preventing further lesions on the brain. I was amazed that from the half dozen drugs on offer to her, non of them had been on the market more than 30 months - shows how fast research is progressing. The side effects pose as many problems as the MS itself but at least with Mrs GP she has no more lesions than from the first attack she had.

All the best with your battle.
Thanks. I may question you on this in the future if that's ok.

I am waiting for the side effects to subside and for the treatment to settle into my new normals. Still a bit of a rollercoaster but less extreme emotionally.
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Only just seen this (tend to stay mainly on the bike stuff). Glad you are in a better place at the moment it sounds like it's done you wonders. Good luck with everything :thumbup: I'd recommend staying away from the news, I keep getting sucked into it but I don't think it does me any good it's a never ending doom scroll.
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Screwdriver wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:06 am

Thanks. I may question you on this in the future if that's ok.

I am waiting for the side effects to subside and for the treatment to settle into my new normals. Still a bit of a rollercoaster but less extreme emotionally.
Anytime :thumbup:
Side effects are just as much, if not more of a challenge than the condition itself. the Meds merely hold back progression of the disease but sometimes at a big cost. Mrs GP is swapping Meds next month, the one she's going on means she needs to be admitted onto a ward for the day and closely monitored as initial side affects can literally kill you - highly unlkiely but it does show how serious some of these meds are.
I'm not an expert and all this is just from our experience. Mrs GP does go on a couple of M S forums but recommends avoiding international ones as they tend to get swamped with mad americans! :)
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The dose they gave me 500mg/day (all in one go) is, I now understand, a very high dose!

It certainly kicked the shit out of me but in a good way. My reaction was like striking a bell in the way I would hit peaks and troughs of euphoria and sadness (NB lit. sadness rather than depression as I know it). Boundless energy lasted a week or so as did the mildly "loved up" feeling but that has either faded away or I'm just getting used to the new normal.

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I was worried about some of the side effects but I have missed most of the bad ones. I am left with new sensations like hunger which had been missing and as I write this, an uncontrollable "flutter" in my left arm appears to have subsided. Unfortunately, I started smoking again (I binned all my vape gear - just in case!) but hopefully I can get rid of that once I get my life back together.

I need to find some mechanism for documenting this with my neurologist because if this drug can give me such a lift, obviously I want more! Still waiting to hear what the long term medication might be. I assume a similar type of drug in sustainable, smaller doses.

Man it would be nice to experience that "Limitless" kick again though...
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Have you tried Dr China? On the Internet.

Dr China will supply a range of prescription medicines without consultation for a modest charge. :thumbup:
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I did a quick online check to see if it was available (and at what sort of price!).

I am reassured it can be had quite cheaply but am going to see how things progress before I consider self medicating.

Thanks for the link though, it may come in handy....
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Best wishes. Stay positive :thumbup:
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mate, all there best, I hope it sorts you out, and I look forward to welcoming you back to the Ritz at some point.
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formula400 wrote: Sat Oct 01, 2022 8:26 pm mate, all there best, I hope it sorts you out, and I look forward to welcoming you back to the Ritz at some point.
Have to say that was quite a spectacular highlight for me. Can't thank you enough, the food was exquisite and the organisation of the kitchens like seeing the inside of a mechanical watch. Spotlessly clean, perpetual synchronised motion, absolute precision.

A great reminder for me that there are plenty of extremely talented and capable people who quietly get on with being very successful in their chosen careers.
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I am so glad to hear your most excellent news!!! Fantastic and such a blessing to have Steve back in his shining strength!

Must catch up sometime, Boxing Day or something still available. We have a dog now and the two cats.

Just incredibly happy for you and sorry I've not been around in the past while whilst absorbed with my own life and so on.

Every blessing and joy, peace and strength for the future.
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the_priest wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 7:36 am I am so glad to hear your most excellent news!!! Fantastic and such a blessing to have Steve back in his shining strength!

Must catch up sometime, Boxing Day or something still available. We have a dog now and the two cats.

Just incredibly happy for you and sorry I've not been around in the past while whilst absorbed with my own life and so on.

Every blessing and joy, peace and strength for the future.
..and just as I was saying how many amazing people I have met on this forum, another one pops up!

Hi Gordon, I am feeling pretty ordinary now, not the hyper version from just a few days ago. You will be able to spot the difference from the chap you helped through some of the darker times - but you will not recognise the house now! Well, the kitchen at least.

The rest of this place looks like it belongs to someone else. Someone who is very untidy and an obsessive hoarder. The extraordinary energy and motivation has left me now, but at least I can see the carnage so hopefully will carry on slowly bringing my house in order. In both meanings of the phrase.
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the_priest wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 7:36 am whilst absorbed with my own life
From some of the stuff you have posted, you give an awful lot of your life (energy, heart, etc) to others when they really need it. That's not something you need to apologise for.
Even bland can be a type of character :wave:
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Horse wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:55 am
the_priest wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 7:36 am whilst absorbed with my own life
From some of the stuff you have posted, you give an awful lot of your life (energy, heart, etc) to others when they really need it. That's not something you need to apologise for.
Plus one on that!
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Update.

Looks like I didn't update on some of the horrific side effects, one of which was shingles. With my immune system disabled by the drug, an old chickenpox virus which had been dormant decided to inhabit my face. Yes. Really fucking horrible, unbelievably painfur for about 3 months. I have the scars to prove it... That was Sept/Oct/Nov for me.

I finally had an appointment @NHS to see how I was getting on/if I was dead yet.

Anyhow the actual face to face (!) consultation was with a rheumatologist which I assumed was something to do with aching joints but was actually a diagnosis from the spinal tap I had for my birthday (no not this on, last year!). More to do with bloods and inflammatory disease, immune deficiency etc. He was horrified to discover I'd been abandoned and put me back on prednisolone albeit a drastically reduced dose. Eight tablets (!) but only 20mg/day instead of the rather more dramatic 500mg.

It's kind of "meh". I get wild mood swings, panic attacks, feeling of not being me etc. but there's no upside unless "not being me" is considered a bonus. You may titter though I'd like to keep all the funnies, and especially the "oh well that explains it" in this thread. It is difficult enough to come to terms with an inexplicable and incurable brain disease without it popping up out of the blue everywhere I go.

Then I got a long awaited call, a telephone consultation from the MS nurse at CharingX. It is confirmed as non presenting, relapsing remitting multiple sclerosis. The drugs are supposed to mitigate the onset of the disease but there is no cure. I know how this ends and that's quite challenging to carry around and another reason I post here so I don't spread it around either. It's pretty grim but hey, no one gets out alive so...

Here's the interesting part:

Incredibly I am being offered a smorgasbord of drugs. They are going to send me a list of potential treatments with their associated side effects for me to choose from! Seems incredible really but I shit you not; there is a long list of palliative drugs oral/injection/drip that I can choose from and I find that quite extraordinary.

What if I pick the wrong one??
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Good luck and make the most of the time you have left.