If we were to rejoin the EU tomorrow, what benefits would you miss most about Brexit?

[Hoonercat]

So all you people who want to rejoin the EU, are you happy with having speed limiters on your cars, are you happy about not having any say in whether you have a speed limiter on you car, are you happy about not being asked if you wanted a speed limiter on your car?

Explain to me how rejoining the EU means we have to have speed limiters on our cars. And even if we are outside the EU, Type Approval normally means we get the same spec of vehicle that the EU gets anyway (with RHD/LHD differences, of course).

And those could (in the UK) be switched off, or set to 200mph, or whatever we chose. Or replaced with a black box that does all the same jobs EXCEPT limit the speed.

RAC, explaining what the introduction of speed limiters in the EU means.

However, the technology can be overridden at the start of every journey when the car is first turned on. If this isn’t done, then the ISA automatically kicks in.

[Horse]

Convention on Road Traffic
Vienna, 8 November 1968
Presented to Parliament
by the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs
by Command of Her Majesty
February 2018

Every driver shall at all times be able to control his vehicle

Until that's removed, the system can't override the driver.

[Mussels]

Convention on Road Traffic
Vienna, 8 November 1968
Presented to Parliament
by the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs
by Command of Her Majesty
February 2018

Every driver shall at all times be able to control his vehicle

Until that's removed, the system can't override the driver.

It didn't stop rubbish traction control systems cutting engine power in the middle of a junction, why would speed limiters be any different?

[Mr. Dazzle]

Every driver shall at all times be able to control his vehicle

Sounds like that law is already flouted quite a lot

[Horse]

Every driver shall at all times be able to control his vehicle

Sounds like that law is already flouted quite a lot

If you read on through it, there's more clauses that basically say, you shall be in control, so be in control.

[Horse]

Convention on Road Traffic
Vienna, 8 November 1968
Presented to Parliament
by the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs
by Command of Her Majesty
February 2018

Every driver shall at all times be able to control his vehicle

Until that's removed, the system can't override the driver.

It didn't stop rubbish traction control systems cutting engine power in the middle of a junction, why would speed limiters be any different?

Sounds like you're out of control

[Mr. Dazzle]

If you read on through it, there's more clauses that basically say, you shall be in control, so be in control.

Get ready to take it back, you mean?

[slowsider]

Convention on Road Traffic
Vienna, 8 November 1968

Presented to Parliament
by the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs
by Command of Her Majesty
February 2018

Every driver shall at all times be able to control his vehicle

Until that's removed, the system can't override the driver.

Bit of a lag in response time

[Horse]

Convention on Road Traffic
Vienna, 8 November 1968

Presented to Parliament
by the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs
by Command of Her Majesty
February 2018

Every driver shall at all times be able to control his vehicle

Until that's removed, the system can't override the driver.

Bit of a lag in response time

You jest.

The convention was agreed upon at the United Nations Economic and Social Council's Conference on Road Traffic (7 October – 8 November 1968) and concluded in Vienna on 8 November 1968. It came into force on 21 May 1977.

[Horse]

We are rejoining

Maybe

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-62967084

The UK is weighing up whether to attend a new European political "club of nations" next month.
The first meeting of the "European Political Community" is due to be held in Prague in early October.
Downing Street wants to see more detail on the summit before Prime Minister Liz Truss commits to attending it and no final decision has been made.
The European Political Community is an idea championed by the French President Emmanuel Macron.
He proposed it, in May, as a "new space" for co-operation.
Mr Macron suggested the group could discuss security, energy and transport as well as the movement of people, particularly the young.

[Cousin Jack]

We are rejoining

Maybe

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-62967084

The UK is weighing up whether to attend a new European political "club of nations" next month.
The first meeting of the "European Political Community" is due to be held in Prague in early October.
Downing Street wants to see more detail on the summit before Prime Minister Liz Truss commits to attending it and no final decision has been made.
The European Political Community is an idea championed by the French President Emmanuel Macron.
He proposed it, in May, as a "new space" for co-operation.
Mr Macron suggested the group could discuss security, energy and transport as well as the movement of people, particularly the young.

Potentially an excellent idea. I voted for Brexit, have no wish to be part of an increasingly Federal Europe, but talking and agreeing stuff is good. Agreement however is a 2-way street, we can agree, or not agree, on any particular issue. That was the bit that was lacking in the EU.

[Asian Boss]

Keep it Brexity people. Nice and Brexity.

We don't want to let down the key architects such as Nigel Farage, Jacob Reece Mogg and David Cameron.

Keep it Brexity.

[Mussels]

It would be good and completely separate from the EU, much to their annoyance.

[Kneerly Down]

We are rejoining

If it doesn't cost us billions a year to be a member of and take precedence over UK law I can't see anyone being that keen to join in!

[Kneerly Down]

Not being involved in the EU budget negotiation...that has been going on for over a year now.

[demographic]

We are rejoining

If it doesn't cost us billions a year to be a member of and take precedence over UK law I can't see anyone being that keen to join in!

As a third of businesses tbat exported to Europe in 2020 stopped for 2021 I reckon Brexit will already be costing billions.

[Asian Boss]

More Brexit Benefits!

Brexit was supposed to awaken a latent buccaneering spirit, unshackling entrepreneurs and companies to roam the globe pillaging other countries’ assets. And so it has. For the French.

This week billionaire Xavier Niel grabbed a £750mn slice of Vodafone; the UK’s biggest telecom group. France’s Schneider Electric announced it would swallow one of the UK’s oldest tech companies, Aveva; and French utility Suez paid £2bn for a UK recycling company.

The flurry of cross-Channel deals on a single day followed telecoms entrepreneur Patrick Drahi buying 18 per cent of BT last year, while French satellite group Eutelsat is preparing to acquire the UK’s OneWeb.

Is this a dastardly plot orchestrated by former Rothschild banker Emmanuel Macron, the French president branded a frenemy of the British state? Bankers point instead to the relative decline in valuations and currency since the 2016 Brexit vote.

https://www.ft.com/content/db82e2a6-0ad ... KnUS7bbXNY

We should also count the other indirect benefits of Brexit, including all the activities this government are carrying out, having been voted in to 'get it done'. That includes things like the return to fracking. Which sounds like it's going to (indirectly) Brexit Iccy's retirement cottage away.

Still, they knew what they were voting for. This was what they were voting for. This was what they wanted.

[irie]

[Asian Boss]

Keep it Brexity people. Nice and Brexity.

We don't want to let down the key architects such as Nigel Farage, Jacob Reece Mogg and David Cameron.

Keep it Brexity.

[/Asian Boss]

[Docca]

I wouldn't mind paying extra for non-seasonal food, but massively appreciate i'm in a position some are not.


Brexit keeps on giving. If you still believe we're better off post-Brexit, then I truly believe nothing in the world will ever worry you

[DefTrap]

I must remember to take some photos in my local (euroland) veg shop of all the fecking massive piles of tomatoes we have access to.
So not entirely sure what this "poor weather in Europe" excuse means. Sounds like bollocks.