Pomp and Ceremony

[Dodgy69]

I watched the morning arrivals up to Bidens. Then went for a coastal walk from Tenby to Saundersfoot. Steep steps in places but very nice being out. Fairly quiet everywhere, just two pubs open in Saundersfoot, shops closed. Some opening at 5pm.

Got back to the journey to Windsor. Brilliantly done and hatsoff to the drummer.

[Mr Moofo]

We do pomp and ceremony very well. Queenie did a good job - and had a fantastic send off. But all that pageantry is looking very out dated these days - the show of opulence when folks are worried about heating housing etc is a reason why the monarchy needs a step change / slimmed down / more relevant status.

[Horse]

As a boost for the post-covid International tourist industry, it may repay itself.

[Mr Moofo]

As a boost for the post-covid International tourist industry, it may repay itself.

I really hope that is the knock on effect - and after all of the recent clown actions at least it shows we can organise and deliver to world standards.
I cannot help but feel that the time for such ostentatiousness may have passed.
IMHO

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

We do pomp and ceremony very well. Queenie did a good job - and had a fantastic send off. But all that pageantry is looking very out dated these days - the show of opulence when folks are worried about heating housing etc is a reason why the monarchy needs a step change / slimmed down / more relevant status.

Get a grip, the amount spent on it was feck all in the grand scheme of things, and most people had it harder than now in the 1980s (I could go into detail on this but I don't want to derail this thread)

[Mr Moofo]

We do pomp and ceremony very well. Queenie did a good job - and had a fantastic send off. But all that pageantry is looking very out dated these days - the show of opulence when folks are worried about heating housing etc is a reason why the monarchy needs a step change / slimmed down / more relevant status.

Get a grip, the amount spent on it was feck all in the grand scheme of things, and most people had it harder than now in the 1980s (I could go into detail on this but I don't want to derail this thread)

As I said - IMHO. It's just that - and I realise that many relished the whole spectacle. But Royals really do have to modernise.

PS - how much did it all cost?

[KungFooBob]

Nah, the Septic's love that it's not modern, they don't have anything old or traditional so they lap it up!

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

As I said - IMHO. It's just that - and I realise that many relished the whole spectacle. But Royals really do have to modernise.

PS - how much did it all cost?

Fecked if I know what it cost, but most of the people would have been paid whether they were doing that or something else.

Personally I found the whole thing boring, but a lot of people got something from it, and I've no problem that they did.

[Mr. Dazzle]

but most of the people would have been paid whether they were doing that or something else.

This is very valid and overlooked point! 99% of the people on show yesterday were already on the government payroll.

[slowsider]

We do pomp and ceremony very well. Queenie did a good job - and had a fantastic send off. But all that pageantry is looking very out dated these days - the show of opulence when folks are worried about heating housing etc is a reason why the monarchy needs a step change / slimmed down / more relevant status.

One remark during the commentary was that armed forces numbers now are about one sixth of what they were at the start of QE's reign. They seem to have kept all the pretty ones.

[Kneerly Down]

I think 'The Crown' cost Netflix somewhere in the region of £110 million to make, and that's fake, whereas this was the real thing...I'm sure it was a bargain!

[Mr Moofo]

I think 'The Crown' cost Netflix somewhere in the region of £110 million to make, and that's fake, whereas this was the real thing...I'm sure it was a bargain!

- I thought The Crown was real!!
For Netflix that sounds a bargain compared to funding Meghan and Harry for something nebulous!

[Horse]

One remark during the commentary was that armed forces numbers now are about one sixth of what they were at the start of QE's reign.

British Army now couldn't fill Wembley stadium.

[Mr. Dazzle]

It is a lot of tickets to sell TBF and they've not had a hit in years.

[Horse]

As I said - IMHO. It's just that - and I realise that many relished the whole spectacle. But Royals really do have to modernise.

PS - how much did it all cost?

https://fullfact.org/economy/queen-funeral-costs/

£6-8Million, amongst 67 million population and 33 million taxpayers.

For context, the Govt 'help for heating' or however they're branding it, is estimated at £150billion.

[JackyJoll]

One remark during the commentary was that armed forces numbers now are about one sixth of what they were at the start of QE's reign. They seem to have kept all the pretty ones.

They had National Service and distant colonies and occupation in Germany and the Malayan Emergency and the Korean War.

[Mr Moofo]

As I said - IMHO. It's just that - and I realise that many relished the whole spectacle. But Royals really do have to modernise.

PS - how much did it all cost?

https://fullfact.org/economy/queen-funeral-costs/

£6-8Million, amongst 67 million population and 33 million taxpayers.

For context, the Govt 'help for heating' or however they're branding it, is estimated at £150billion.

There is no way, in a million years , that that cost 6-8 million. Multiply that by 10 or 15 and you may be reaching the direct costs.

[Horse]

As I said - IMHO. It's just that - and I realise that many relished the whole spectacle. But Royals really do have to modernise.

PS - how much did it all cost?

https://fullfact.org/economy/queen-funeral-costs/

£6-8Million, amongst 67 million population and 33 million taxpayers.

For context, the Govt 'help for heating' or however they're branding it, is estimated at £150billion.

There is no way, in a million years , that that cost 6-8 million. Multiply that by 10 or 15 and you may be reaching the direct costs.

I don't believe it either, but it was all I could find. That said, even at x10, it's still 'only' £2 per taxpayer.

Edit: in our local news website today:

AROUND six million people will receive a one-off £150 disability cost-of-living payment from this week.

The Department for Work and Pensions says it expects all of those entitled to the extra cash to have been sent it by the start of October.

That's the sort of amounts that the Govt hands out.

[Bigyin]

but most of the people would have been paid whether they were doing that or something else.

This is very valid and overlooked point! 99% of the people on show yesterday were already on the government payroll.

Quite a few were youngsters who were in basic training but knew enough to stand still by the side of the road and don’t move until told to. Many of the RAF on the guard of honour duties had no rank insignia as they were all in trade training at RAF Cosford so were a large group all together and once the ceremony was done would go back to their specific trade training and eventually be given their qualified rank

[DefTrap]

Just imagine if it wasn't controlled by the state and the masses, in their wisdom, decreed what the cost-friendly, fair or even woke version would have looked like.

The Queen's coffin pulled down towards Westminster on a Tesco sponsored wagon by a crowd-funded donkey.
Sky win the rights to exclusive coverage and we all have to subscribe to watch it on PPV, commentary provided by Graham Norton.
Tickets to the ceremony are decided not by how close you were to the departed , or by your status in international politics, but by how many 'prayers' you received on Facebook.


I didn't watch it live because I can't spend all day in front of the box, the 2 hour highlights summed it up nicely. It's a staggering display of strange and ancient ritual and formality - quite a spectacle to watch.