I'm thinking of reskinning our existing shed as the T&G around the bottom is rotten and several of the tongues have come out of the grooves. I've recently refelted it so the roof is fine. I can get pressure treated T&G for about half the price of a new basic shed so to make my life easier and as an excuse for a new tool I was thinking about getting a nail gun with the savings.
Is a mains powered nail gun around the £150 worth it?
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Re: Nail Gun
How big nails do you want to put in?
I've got a small one, I think it's made by Stanley, I think it cost about £30, it does what it says on the tin, but the biggest nails it does are about an inch long and 3mm thick.
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I've got a small one, I think it's made by Stanley, I think it cost about £30, it does what it says on the tin, but the biggest nails it does are about an inch long and 3mm thick.
Found it
https://www.thesafetysupplycompany.co.u ... 20Products
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Never used one of the mains powered ones.
Always either used the ones on an airline which are generally very tough machines indeed or the cordess ones.
The airline ones are cheaper than the cordless ones.
For small tongue and groove boards I usually use a 16 gauge brad gun which fires 25-64mm brads and I pay the extra for the stainless brads.
Mines a Hitachi and was about ￡450 with batteries and charger and so on.
If youre putting first fix (framing) nails in its a bigger gun that does 50-90mm framing nails in.
Mines a De-Walt but again its knocking on ￡450 all in, mind with both of those guns the batteries run all sorts of other tools so the batteries aren't a lost purchase.
Last time I looked Ryobi were at more of the cheaper homeowner end of the market but whilst trying not to sound like a snob, my tools are my livelihood so have to be reliable so I get as good as I can afford.
If you're just doing one shed a cheaper option with a decent guarantee might be a good option.
Always either used the ones on an airline which are generally very tough machines indeed or the cordess ones.
The airline ones are cheaper than the cordless ones.
For small tongue and groove boards I usually use a 16 gauge brad gun which fires 25-64mm brads and I pay the extra for the stainless brads.
Mines a Hitachi and was about ￡450 with batteries and charger and so on.
If youre putting first fix (framing) nails in its a bigger gun that does 50-90mm framing nails in.
Mines a De-Walt but again its knocking on ￡450 all in, mind with both of those guns the batteries run all sorts of other tools so the batteries aren't a lost purchase.
Last time I looked Ryobi were at more of the cheaper homeowner end of the market but whilst trying not to sound like a snob, my tools are my livelihood so have to be reliable so I get as good as I can afford.
If you're just doing one shed a cheaper option with a decent guarantee might be a good option.
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I’ve got the Ryobi Plus One 16g nailer, works a treat on skirting, architrave or pinning stuff together before whacking in a screw. The rest of my kit is Ryobi (diyer) so I didn’t need batteries which kept the cost down.
I’ve got an air 18g which is great for small spaces but I “needed” the a Ryobi for all those times I didn’t want to lug the compressor up several flights of stairs.
I’ve got an air 18g which is great for small spaces but I “needed” the a Ryobi for all those times I didn’t want to lug the compressor up several flights of stairs.
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Re: Nail Gun
If this is a one-time use is it worth checking local tool hire shops?
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Whenever i think tool hire would be a good idea I look at the prices and realise I can buy a cheap version for less that's likely to still work the next time I need it.
The only exception to this may be an excavator to landscape my back garden, I'm still looking for a DIY version I can buy.
The only exception to this may be an excavator to landscape my back garden, I'm still looking for a DIY version I can buy.
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Re: Nail Gun
T&G boards I intend using are 12mm so 40/50mm nails I guess. Havn't got an air compressor (yet 
). Looked at the Ryobi one+18g but £160 plus charger and battery starts getting a bit expensive when I don't have any other Ryobi stuff.
Did think of tool hire but a new tool and I'm sure I'll find other stuff to use it on. Many years ago when fitting a central heating in the house I bought a pipe bender, it was twice as much as a weekend hire but it was used many times and I have a plan to use it again for the exhaust pipes for the rocking Le Mans toy I'm making for the grandson.
From the comments above I appear to looking for something that can drive 16g to 18g nails. 2nd fix.
). Looked at the Ryobi one+18g but £160 plus charger and battery starts getting a bit expensive when I don't have any other Ryobi stuff.Did think of tool hire but a new tool and I'm sure I'll find other stuff to use it on. Many years ago when fitting a central heating in the house I bought a pipe bender, it was twice as much as a weekend hire but it was used many times and I have a plan to use it again for the exhaust pipes for the rocking Le Mans toy I'm making for the grandson.
From the comments above I appear to looking for something that can drive 16g to 18g nails. 2nd fix.
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Re: Nail Gun
Yeah, hammers are pretty cheap.
Whatever you do, try to secret nail it at a 45 degree angle through the tongues so the next run isn't held out of line by the nails, that way you only see the nails on the first and last row and not on the whole face.
And either stagger the joints so they don't all line up, or at least if you do put them a in a line, put a covermold over the line of joints.
Whatever you do, try to secret nail it at a 45 degree angle through the tongues so the next run isn't held out of line by the nails, that way you only see the nails on the first and last row and not on the whole face.
And either stagger the joints so they don't all line up, or at least if you do put them a in a line, put a covermold over the line of joints.
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Looks like I'll be getting the Ryobi. I was baulking at having to spend around £250 for the body battery and charger, however while looking ay Youtube on my phone there was and advert for a Ryobi Impact driver for £120 at Halfords complete with battery and charger. I've wanted an Impact driver for ages as well.
So I've just done click and collect on the impact driver and will pick that up later today, I'll wait a few weeks till I start doing the shed and then order the Ryobi Nail Gun. The way I'm looking at it(and will tell the wife) is that I've got a free Impact driver
or two tools for the price of one
So I've just done click and collect on the impact driver and will pick that up later today, I'll wait a few weeks till I start doing the shed and then order the Ryobi Nail Gun. The way I'm looking at it(and will tell the wife) is that I've got a free Impact driver
or two tools for the price of one-
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Is it angled or straight?
If I was buying just for my own jobs I would have bought angled (would have gone for the De-Walt as well cos it's a nicer second fix gun than mine) but as most of my work is on site and they almost always supply straight I went for the Hitachi so I basically never have to buy the brads for it.
It seems that 18 gauge brads are pretty common in the US but I've never seen any on UK building sites so again I went for the 16 gauge straight brad gun. All dictated by the brads I get on site.
Oh and this is obvious but Ive seen carpenters who should know better fuck it up so...
Don't put straight nails into an angled nail gun or the other way round, it's a right pain in the arse pulling the noodled brad out of the magazine with needle nosed pliers and pincers and it puts a hole in the magazine. Or removing the magazine to clear stoppages.
I've not put any in myself but have been called on to fix other peoples guns when they fucked it up.
If I was buying just for my own jobs I would have bought angled (would have gone for the De-Walt as well cos it's a nicer second fix gun than mine) but as most of my work is on site and they almost always supply straight I went for the Hitachi so I basically never have to buy the brads for it.
It seems that 18 gauge brads are pretty common in the US but I've never seen any on UK building sites so again I went for the 16 gauge straight brad gun. All dictated by the brads I get on site.
Oh and this is obvious but Ive seen carpenters who should know better fuck it up so...
Don't put straight nails into an angled nail gun or the other way round, it's a right pain in the arse pulling the noodled brad out of the magazine with needle nosed pliers and pincers and it puts a hole in the magazine. Or removing the magazine to clear stoppages.
I've not put any in myself but have been called on to fix other peoples guns when they fucked it up.
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I got my 16g gun from SGS Engineering via Ebay as there was a voucher weekend and I got 4 months interest free from PayPal credit. IIRC FFX stock Ryobi as well and often feature in Ebay voucher weekends.GuzziPaul wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:45 am Looks like I'll be getting the Ryobi. I was baulking at having to spend around £250 for the body battery and charger, however while looking ay Youtube on my phone there was and advert for a Ryobi Impact driver for £120 at Halfords complete with battery and charger. I've wanted an Impact driver for ages as well.
So I've just done click and collect on the impact driver and will pick that up later today, I'll wait a few weeks till I start doing the shed and then order the Ryobi Nail Gun. The way I'm looking at it(and will tell the wife) is that I've got a free Impact driver
I’m still coveting the Ryobi P360 3/8ths narrow crown staple gun but they are only for sale in US.