NBT: The old keeper is going, meet the new one!

[Taipan]

I'm probably going to go with Mototuning who did my F800R. He has a good database to build a post in map from.

[Count Steer]

I'm probably going to go with Mototuning who did my F800R. He has a good database to build a post in map from.

Lost track here. What's the problem with the bike? All the early posts didn't suggest there was anything wrong. What did I miss?

[Taipan]

I'm probably going to go with Mototuning who did my F800R. He has a good database to build a post in map from.

Lost track here. What's the problem with the bike? All the early posts didn't suggest there was anything wrong. What did I miss?

The fuelling is pretty good overall, sadly most of my riding is done where the problems with modern Fi bikes manifests itself. Bit of surging at constant throttle low revs etc. TBH if I hadn’t known how much that could be improved I may not even have bothered?

[Big Red]

Going to throw this into the mix as my thoughts of the fuelling on the mt09 i had. It was a late 2015 model
It suffered really bad with jerky throttle and surging at everything below about 50mph.
The throttle was like an off/on switch around town and at junctions/roundabouts you had to always slip the clutch as any throttle input made the bike sit down or take off, no inbetween.
It was happiest when you were constantly winding it on.
I checked everything mechanically and everything was within spec.
Eventually i sent the ecu of to someone already mentioned on this thread to be flashed.
Refitted and there was a slight improvement but the fuelling was still shit.
I eventually got fed up and fitted a power commander.
Paid a friend with a dyno to set it up. again slightly better but still nowhere right.
He had another go and made a few tweeks but only slight improvement.
By this time I was getting really p*ss*d of with it so done a bit of research and found Kev over in Australia had a good bit of experience with setting up custom maps from dyno runs on the MT09 so spoke to him.
As it happens, he stays in Brisbane and we were going over to visit family for 4 weeks so the ecu went into our suitcase and I met with him.
He loaded one of his custom maps with a few small tweeks to compensate for the uk slightly different blend of petrol.
I returned home, fitted the ecu, disconnected the power commander and took the bike out.
The result was another slight improvement, but still nowhere near right.
I then reconnected the power commander and tried again. I am now around £800 into trying to get this bike running right and still nowhere near it fuelling itself properly.
I then decided to cut my losses and sold the bike.
A great bike spoiled by shit fuelling, really don't know how Yamaha got away with selling then like this.
If yours is running ok, I would leave well alone as you may make improvements to it, but you could make it worse.

[Taipan]

There’s a guy in the MT forum whose fuelling problems have been worsened by the place I think you’re referencing? Mine is certainly no where as bad as yours or anything like it tbh. Yes it can be snatchy but not a problem as such. I did use B mode in the rain the other day but probably didn’t need it, it was more the Dunlop’s making me nervous!!

I do think o I may have reached an impasse with it now. I suspect the fuelling will eventually annoy me enough that I won’t live with it, even though now the rest of the bike excites me enough to currently ignore it? Time will tell I suppose….

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

Buy a Suzuki, they run fine standard.

[weeksy]

Going to throw this into the mix as my thoughts of the fuelling on the mt09 i had. It was a late 2015 model
It suffered really bad with jerky throttle and surging at everything below about 50mph.
The throttle was like an off/on switch around town and at junctions/roundabouts you had to always slip the clutch as any throttle input made the bike sit down or take off, no inbetween.
It was happiest when you were constantly winding it on.
I checked everything mechanically and everything was within spec.
Eventually i sent the ecu of to someone already mentioned on this thread to be flashed.
Refitted and there was a slight improvement but the fuelling was still shit.
I eventually got fed up and fitted a power commander.
Paid a friend with a dyno to set it up. again slightly better but still nowhere right.
He had another go and made a few tweeks but only slight improvement.
By this time I was getting really p*ss*d of with it so done a bit of research and found Kev over in Australia had a good bit of experience with setting up custom maps from dyno runs on the MT09 so spoke to him.
As it happens, he stays in Brisbane and we were going over to visit family for 4 weeks so the ecu went into our suitcase and I met with him.
He loaded one of his custom maps with a few small tweeks to compensate for the uk slightly different blend of petrol.
I returned home, fitted the ecu, disconnected the power commander and took the bike out.
The result was another slight improvement, but still nowhere near right.
I then reconnected the power commander and tried again. I am now around £800 into trying to get this bike running right and still nowhere near it fuelling itself properly.
I then decided to cut my losses and sold the bike.
A great bike spoiled by shit fuelling, really don't know how Yamaha got away with selling then like this.
If yours is running ok, I would leave well alone as you may make improvements to it, but you could make it worse.

I think that was the early ones, they got a lot better.

[matt]

Yes my 2014 had an awful on off throttle.
It was great if you were in the mood for an aggressive blast ,but it did my head in most of the time.
I mainly used it in b mode for that reason, which seemed a waste.
Great bike otherwise

[Supermofo]

Buy a Suzuki, they run fine standard.

Mine is very slightly snatchy but not bad at all.

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

Buy a Suzuki, they run fine standard.

Mine is very slightly snatchy but not bad at all.

Mine is fine with the Traction Control off or on 1, it's a little snatchy on 2 or 3, but I've not ridden a fuel injected bike that's as responsive as a carbed 750 SRAD.

[Taipan]

I should rtfm as I’ve no idea whatvthe tc settings are all about!?

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

I should rtfm as I’ve no idea whatvthe tc settings are all about!?

Turn it off and see if the bike is any better, mine is a bit over cautious at low speeds on the higher settings, unless it's slippery, when the Traction control is great fun, nail the throttle and out accelerate anything as it does it's job.

[Supermofo]

I should rtfm as I’ve no idea whatvthe tc settings are all about!?

Turn it off and see if the bike is any better, mine is a bit over cautious at low speeds on the higher settings, unless it's slippery, when the Traction control is great fun, nail the throttle and out accelerate anything as it does it's job.

I'm to chicken shit to try that in case it didn't work.

In fact one of only 3 bikes I've ridden with TC, a 2018 MT09, stepped out a lot on my test ride. It went far enough I thought I was off and that was in a straight line at about 3c in Feb. No idea what TC level but the warning light was off so TC must have been active but there was no flashing light so it didn't activate as far as I could tell. No idea if it was faulty but it sure as fuck didn't work. I rolled the throttle on at about 6k and it went Gary McCoy on me

[Taipan]

We’ll before I do anything about ecu reflashes, I guess I’ll need to be sure about the exhaust system! Originally I liked the stubby 200mm one, but now I find myself preferring the 300mm one?

I’ve emailed BW and asked about difference in noise levels in decibels, which hopefully they’ll know? If there is a marked or noticeable difference I’ll buy the 300mm can and take things from there. I’ll probably have a chat with Gary @mototuning and see what he says he can do.

If none of that works out, it’ll be sold and I’ll buy a hypetmotard!


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[Dodgy69]

What year is it? On my 18 tracer, throttle was fine in standard. Bit jumpy in A in town and a slug in B mode everywhere. 847cc.

[weeksy]

What year is it? On my 18 tracer, throttle was fine in standard. Bit jumpy in A in town and a slug in B mode everywhere. 847cc.

Aye, same as my 19XSR.... was golden in anything but A mode.. until i flashed it, then A mode was sweet and faster.

[weeksy]

We’ll before I do anything about ecu reflashes, I guess I’ll need to be sure about the exhaust system! Originally I liked the stubby 200mm one, but now I find myself preferring the 300mm one?

I’ve emailed BW and asked about difference in noise levels in decibels, which hopefully they’ll know? If there is a marked or noticeable difference I’ll buy the 300mm can and take things from there. I’ll probably have a chat with Gary @mototuning and see what he says he can do.

If none of that works out, it’ll be sold and I’ll buy a hypetmotard!


my screen size in pixels

Neither... both look cheap and nasty

[Taipan]

We’ll before I do anything about ecu reflashes, I guess I’ll need to be sure about the exhaust system! Originally I liked the stubby 200mm one, but now I find myself preferring the 300mm one?

I’ve emailed BW and asked about difference in noise levels in decibels, which hopefully they’ll know? If there is a marked or noticeable difference I’ll buy the 300mm can and take things from there. I’ll probably have a chat with Gary @mototuning and see what he says he can do.

If none of that works out, it’ll be sold and I’ll buy a hypetmotard!


my screen size in pixels

Neither... both look cheap and nasty

Tbh
They could be in mr blooby colours, it’s the growl of the triple that gets you past asthetics, although I like the look of them anyway. So win win for me!

[weeksy]

I hear you with the growl, the triple engine sounds really nice... For me, the noise is enough as it comes standard, but i know some like it more noisy...But still.... i'm not sure they'd be my choice.

As you know i had the exhaust discussions on the XSR900 and never really resolved them.

[Taipan]

I hear you. These bikes with short exit stubby cans are a nightmare to get a teplacement looking right. I think you end up talking yourself into it being right! It mainly works for me purely because the “extended” ones look sooo wrong!