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The market is very strong for well put together Norton Commandos esp 750 early ones Roadster my particular fave.

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I suspect, if it was about earning money longer term and I knew enough about it, I'd invest in particular spares. That way you don't have to keep things running etc. Just tag 'em and bag 'em and stick 'em in the garage.
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Any of the 400’s NC30/35 etc aren’t going down any time soon. First of the CBR600RR in red black are creeping up, same with SRAD 600’s and first R6. A nice 1150GS will always fetch good money too. More modern the first rninet may be worth a look.
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dern wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:22 am Not in budget but I think the most sensible bikes that fit the Bill would be things like a 92 blade although there are so many blades around, the first red and white r1s and things like that. It’s a gamble though.

The reason this has come up is that I was thinking of all the cars I missed the boat on that are now realistically out of reach.
The round headlight ones as you say are desirable- mine was 1100 quid (1995 bought unseen) it’s Tatty but I think I’d get back what I’ve spent on it inc tyres and odds and sides.
As you say there are loads of nineties fire blades around and at all sorts of prices which seem to be falling back post Covid -

Lols I said 916 but I haven’t looked at the price of one in ages !
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I've seen some TL1000s, YZF 750s, ZXR 750s etc that have been for sale with the same dealers for over a year. No idea at what point they realise they are over priced.
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115500176550 ... R9zE7-zmYA

I'm going with a nice one of these.. Honda Firestorm.
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weeksy wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 1:25 pm https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115500176550 ... R9zE7-zmYA

I'm going with a nice one of these.. Honda Firestorm.
They're a bit Thunderace, good bikes but few people love them.
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204083571977 ... R9zE7-zmYA

That's a lovely example there... i bet you could add a few grand on that in a couple or 5 years.
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weeksy wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 1:30 pm https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204083571977 ... R9zE7-zmYA

That's a lovely example there... i bet you could add a few grand on that in a couple or 5 years.
I wouldn't give £5 for it. Bland, bland and a bit more bland.
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Yorick wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 1:35 pm
weeksy wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 1:30 pm https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204083571977 ... R9zE7-zmYA

That's a lovely example there... i bet you could add a few grand on that in a couple or 5 years.
I wouldn't give £5 for it. Bland, bland and a bit more bland.
But for every 'you' there's another 'them' who would....
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weeksy wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 1:37 pm
Yorick wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 1:35 pm
weeksy wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 1:30 pm https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204083571977 ... R9zE7-zmYA

That's a lovely example there... i bet you could add a few grand on that in a couple or 5 years.
I wouldn't give £5 for it. Bland, bland and a bit more bland.
But for every 'you' there's another 'them' who would....
If they were any good, they'd still be making them ;)
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Yorick wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 1:39 pm
weeksy wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 1:37 pm
Yorick wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 1:35 pm
I wouldn't give £5 for it. Bland, bland and a bit more bland.
But for every 'you' there's another 'them' who would....
If they were any good, they'd still be making them ;)
There's lots of absolutely magnificent things they don't make any more. :D
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Count Steer wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 1:42 pm
Yorick wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 1:39 pm
weeksy wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 1:37 pm

But for every 'you' there's another 'them' who would....
If they were any good, they'd still be making them ;)
There's lots of absolutely magnificent things they don't make any more. :D
There were probably some amazing B&W tellies.
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Yorick wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 1:45 pm There were probably some amazing B&W tellies.
I used to think that what I really wanted was a CB-1 in lovely condition to pootle about on. In 1989 they really were a good bike. A product of that special time when Japanese buyers couldn't readily buy a bike over 400cc, it had a lovely smooth engine with the whizzy gear driven cams, was light enough depsite steel swingarm and frame, had a nice riding position, etc. etc.

But actually what I really want is a CB-1 engine, but with basically everything else modernised and more suspension travel and space since I'm older and fatter now. I don't want carbs, I don't want halogen headlights, I don't want analogue clocks, etc.

So my realisation: Good moments in history are just that. Remember the B&W one fondly, but get the OLED telly with all the bells.
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A_morti wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 2:00 pm
Yorick wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 1:45 pm There were probably some amazing B&W tellies.
So my realisation: Good moments in history are just that. Remember the B&W one fondly, but get the OLED telly with all the bells.
Then watch B&W films on it for the nostalgia factor. :thumbup:

As for everything new being better...water based paint, emission controls etc etc might be 'better' in some respects but I'm not convinced they make a better bike.
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Count Steer wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 2:08 pm As for everything new being better...water based paint, emission controls etc etc might be 'better' in some respects but I'm not convinced they make a better bike.
Sure, we could go back to lead-based paint. Do you miss fuel with lead in it too?

I am actually very happy to carry a catalyst on my bike. Quite apart from the hippy stuff, I don't miss walking into the office smelling of unburnt fuel vapours one iota. I'm also happy my little CB300R has evaporative controls, because I don't need my garage to smell of fuel either. Would it be nice to lose the 1 or 2 kg's that costs, and loosen the collar around your bike's neck? Sure, but it's not exactly a problem to have that stuff, is it?
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A_morti wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 2:43 pm
Count Steer wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 2:08 pm As for everything new being better...water based paint, emission controls etc etc might be 'better' in some respects but I'm not convinced they make a better bike.
Sure, we could go back to lead-based paint. Do you miss fuel with lead in it too?

I am actually very happy to carry a catalyst on my bike. Quite apart from the hippy stuff, I don't miss walking into the office smelling of unburnt fuel vapours one iota. I'm also happy my little CB300R has evaporative controls, because I don't need my garage to smell of fuel either. Would it be nice to lose the 1 or 2 kg's that costs, and loosen the collar around your bike's neck? Sure, but it's not exactly a problem to have that stuff, is it?
Who said anything about lead based paint or lead in fuel?

Edit: ...and I stopped smelling of bike when I stopped riding 2T ones. Not even a CX500 left me with even a whiff of eau de petroleum.
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A_morti wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 2:00 pm
Yorick wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 1:45 pm There were probably some amazing B&W tellies.
I used to think that what I really wanted was a CB-1 in lovely condition to pootle about on. In 1989 they really were a good bike. A product of that special time when Japanese buyers couldn't readily buy a bike over 400cc, it had a lovely smooth engine with the whizzy gear driven cams, was light enough depsite steel swingarm and frame, had a nice riding position, etc. etc.

But actually what I really want is a CB-1 engine, but with basically everything else modernised and more suspension travel and space since I'm older and fatter now. I don't want carbs, I don't want halogen headlights, I don't want analogue clocks, etc.

So my realisation: Good moments in history are just that. Remember the B&W one fondly, but get the OLED telly with all the bells.
MT07 :)
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I still want a bike that rides like a new bike but looks like a 1983 bike, Honda nearly did it but bottled out.
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weeksy wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 2:59 pm MT07 :)
The CB-1 was all about having an IL4 engine whether it made sense or not, so more likely CB650R as a modern equivalent if we're ignoring the original's 45-ish bhp, but I see where you're going.
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:25 pm I still want a bike that rides like a new bike but looks like a 1983 bike, Honda nearly did it but bottled out.
There's that many versions of the CB1100 and Z900 to choose from...