Paint Sprayer
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Paint Sprayer
I'm taking delivery of a new garage/shed in September, and I need to paint it.
Firstly paint the outside with a watery, oil-based treatment that makes it weatherproof*, then the inside: white emulsion on the walls; oil-based garage floor paint for the floor (obvs), Having just painted a small shed with a large brush: I want to try a sprayer for this garage.
Can anyone recommend a paint sprayer for these tasks? Most of the cheap/cheerful ones I've so far found are mains-powered, which is doable if I'm buying a cheapy 'just' for this use - but a battery-powered would be preferable simply for the convenience of the lack of wires to trip over.
I was really hoping that Ryobi did one in their 'one+' range, but they don't.
(Similarly we have a very good Bosch drill with removable battery, but it's the generation before the current one and so incompatible with the newer range. )
* this is supplied by the shed company, we've just used it on another shed and it seems pretty good.
Firstly paint the outside with a watery, oil-based treatment that makes it weatherproof*, then the inside: white emulsion on the walls; oil-based garage floor paint for the floor (obvs), Having just painted a small shed with a large brush: I want to try a sprayer for this garage.
Can anyone recommend a paint sprayer for these tasks? Most of the cheap/cheerful ones I've so far found are mains-powered, which is doable if I'm buying a cheapy 'just' for this use - but a battery-powered would be preferable simply for the convenience of the lack of wires to trip over.
I was really hoping that Ryobi did one in their 'one+' range, but they don't.
(Similarly we have a very good Bosch drill with removable battery, but it's the generation before the current one and so incompatible with the newer range. )
* this is supplied by the shed company, we've just used it on another shed and it seems pretty good.
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Re: Paint Sprayer
I've looked a paint sprayers a couple of times to do rooms but they make so much mess I've decided using a roller will be less work overall.
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Re: Paint Sprayer
Don't get too hung up on battery systems as there's adapter plates out there. Sometimes they even look so good you can't tell there's one fitted:
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Re: Paint Sprayer
Didn't know about them.
My cynical mind assumes they're mainly "Big Brand A to Big Brand B", rather than "Big Brand A to cheapy-off-brand-one-use-tat" though?
What's the source for these, eBay?
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Re: Paint Sprayer
I'm also hoping for less "cleaning up" afterwards. I hate cleaning rollers.
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Re: Paint Sprayer
For us laymen, roller is good enough. Probably for most of the pros too. A friend of a friend does commercial decorating using sprayers and it's bloody fast (once the appropriate masking-up and faffing with H&S is done) but obvs he's using really decent kit and his ROI makes it a bit of a no-brainer.
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Re: Paint Sprayer
The one pictured came via Ebay, c£10 IIRC. It has flying leads so could attached directly to the switch terminals, or gut an old suitable battery and attach the leads to those terminals. The later method also gives you something to fix the adapter to.
IME any battery will drive any motor, it's the speed and longevity that are affected. The one up there ran a touch fast, made a brilliant drill but a useless screwdriver. But it is an 18V battery driving a 9.6V drill.
IME any battery will drive any motor, it's the speed and longevity that are affected. The one up there ran a touch fast, made a brilliant drill but a useless screwdriver. But it is an 18V battery driving a 9.6V drill.
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Re: Paint Sprayer
It's now fitted to something a bit more suitable. Hot melt glue was useful with this one.
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Re: Paint Sprayer
Airless spraying is the way to go. The HVLP guns are ok but messy. We did a small bedroom with one which covered everything with overspray.
Airless spraying:
Positives: minimal dilution, minimal airborne particles, quick to apply paint with minimal repeat coats*, with differing tips you can spray anything from wood stain to smooth exterior emulsion (sandy paint would play havoc with the pump, gun, tips etc)
Negatives: expensive (my Wagner Control 250 was circa £400**), masking up and clean up often takes long than painting, you’ll feel like you are getting through a lot of paint, can be hard work lugging the high pressure hose around*** and constantly up and down steps****
* it took 3+ heavy coats of contract matt to cover up (but not fill) the blockwork in the garage due to uneven surface, previously cream bedroom ceiling was 2 good coats of Johnstone’s trade coverplus
** we are renovating a large Victorian house and we saved more than the cost of the machine on a quote we received to decorate 2 rooms.I’ve seen since that Screwfix now stock an Erbaurer / Titan equivalent for much less or you may be able to hire one.
*** I’ve added a high pressure whip to mine which helps to alleviate that to some extent
**** I’ve also added a nozzle extension which means I can paint from picture rail (8’) to floor without steps, ceilings (13’) and above picture rail is done from 13’ long run of trestles and boards,
Airless spraying:
Positives: minimal dilution, minimal airborne particles, quick to apply paint with minimal repeat coats*, with differing tips you can spray anything from wood stain to smooth exterior emulsion (sandy paint would play havoc with the pump, gun, tips etc)
Negatives: expensive (my Wagner Control 250 was circa £400**), masking up and clean up often takes long than painting, you’ll feel like you are getting through a lot of paint, can be hard work lugging the high pressure hose around*** and constantly up and down steps****
* it took 3+ heavy coats of contract matt to cover up (but not fill) the blockwork in the garage due to uneven surface, previously cream bedroom ceiling was 2 good coats of Johnstone’s trade coverplus
** we are renovating a large Victorian house and we saved more than the cost of the machine on a quote we received to decorate 2 rooms.I’ve seen since that Screwfix now stock an Erbaurer / Titan equivalent for much less or you may be able to hire one.
*** I’ve added a high pressure whip to mine which helps to alleviate that to some extent
**** I’ve also added a nozzle extension which means I can paint from picture rail (8’) to floor without steps, ceilings (13’) and above picture rail is done from 13’ long run of trestles and boards,
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Re: Paint Sprayer
Use a cheap roller and throw it in the bin when you've finishedRockburner wrote: ↑Tue Aug 30, 2022 12:41 pmI'm also hoping for less "cleaning up" afterwards. I hate cleaning rollers.
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PS. Graco do a handheld battery and corded model which gets very mixed reviews, from utter shite to excellent, I’d quite like one for smaller jobs but £500 plus for something that appears to be hit and miss is a step too far although I do have an eBay search set up for one
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Re: Paint Sprayer
I would. The GF doesn't let me.Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: ↑Tue Aug 30, 2022 3:21 pmUse a cheap roller and throw it in the bin when you've finishedRockburner wrote: ↑Tue Aug 30, 2022 12:41 pmI'm also hoping for less "cleaning up" afterwards. I hate cleaning rollers.
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So GF cleans the roller. No problem.Rockburner wrote: ↑Tue Aug 30, 2022 3:42 pmI would. The GF doesn't let me.Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: ↑Tue Aug 30, 2022 3:21 pmUse a cheap roller and throw it in the bin when you've finishedRockburner wrote: ↑Tue Aug 30, 2022 12:41 pm
I'm also hoping for less "cleaning up" afterwards. I hate cleaning rollers.
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Or while looking in her handbag for the cash to buy a sprayer, see if you can find your ballsCount Steer wrote: ↑Tue Aug 30, 2022 3:43 pmSo GF cleans the roller. No problem.Rockburner wrote: ↑Tue Aug 30, 2022 3:42 pmI would. The GF doesn't let me.Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: ↑Tue Aug 30, 2022 3:21 pm
Use a cheap roller and throw it in the bin when you've finished
Joking aside, if rollering, you’ll need a deep pile roller to paint brickwork which will pick up loads of crap as you are painting, irrespective of how much you’ve brushed down the surfaces, rendering it useless for anything else other than masonry painting in the future no matter how much you clean it.