Energy bills

[slowsider]

USDA - dont they endorse washing chicken with bleach?

Chlorine.
The same stuff your leafy greens are washed in here

My leafy greens prolly haven't been dragged around in an abattoir...

[MrLongbeard]

USDA - dont they endorse washing chicken with bleach?

Chlorine.
The same stuff your leafy greens are washed in here

My leafy greens prolly haven't been dragged around in an abattoir...

But have been pissed and shit on and then doused with whatever chemical fertiliser farmer giles can get cheap, and can come with a side serving of e-coli, salmonella, listeria

[Count Steer]

Sorry, but you haven't actually told us what you want us all to do about it. As far as I know only Gremlin is a banker and he's not BofE. I could try phoning Andrew Bailey I suppose.

I don't want you to do anything about it, I did the decent thing and told you it was coming, why it was coming, and I told you how to mitigate it.
You chose to do a Joey Deacon, ram your tongue into your bottom lip and hop about like a gibbon make gurning noises at me, as if I was the dickhead.

Take the piss, be sarcastic, tell me I'm talking out of my arse, do whatever gets you off, to hedge my energy bills I made £700 this week on a commodities portfolio by using only the same information I have already given you, if you didn't and you'd rather stick to the gurning then I could give less than zero fucks if you freeze to death this winter.

Your strategy of apathy puzzles me but I'm not actually arsed.

Ooh...someone's tired.

Should I tell you about the portfolio I built years before you decided to become the financial rainmaker and got someone else to trade a few EFTs for you?

Should I tell you how much the increase in energy costs is going to affect my life?

Strategy of apathy. Ha! As if.

You stick to wiring plugs, nursing your little pension pot and insulting people. It's a forte.

Nighty night.

[Count Steer]

You shouldn't assume that I'm in a strop just because I'm being direct.

You could have a quid or ten million of them, I care not a jot, it's amusing that when prodded about your "but...but...what can I do about it all" attitude, you've suddenly donned a cape and become an OG super trader, and for a bloke that's had a stellar portfolio for years I don't see many yachts or supercars, but perhaps you're just nerdy and boring.
And like I said, I giveth zero fucks.

I'll carry on sparking and you carry on winning by being beige

So, where were we? Ah yes. What are you expecting people to do about it? Oh...'I don't want you to do anything about it, I did the decent thing and told you it was coming, why it was coming, and I told you how to mitigate it.'

So, you just want to keep telling us that you're economically prescient and a budding financial wizard? That'll work.

PS I don't have any jet skis either.

[Hoonercat]

Sorry, but you haven't actually told us what you want us all to do about it. As far as I know only Gremlin is a banker and he's not BofE. I could try phoning Andrew Bailey I suppose.

I don't want you to do anything about it, I did the decent thing and told you it was coming, why it was coming, and I told you how to mitigate it.
You chose to do a Joey Deacon, ram your tongue into your bottom lip and hop about like a gibbon make gurning noises at me, as if I was the dickhead.

Take the piss, be sarcastic, tell me I'm talking out of my arse, do whatever gets you off, to hedge my energy bills I made £700 this week on a commodities portfolio by using only the same information I have already given you, if you didn't and you'd rather stick to the gurning then I could give less than zero fucks if you freeze to death this winter.

Your strategy of apathy puzzles me but I'm not actually arsed.

CBA to check back through the thread, but can't recall anyone being worried about freezing to death. Plenty signed up to fixed rate deals, others have explained how they'll be changing their habits/trying to mitigate price rises, but for the most part the majority seem to just accept it for what it is, though understandably they'd rather be paying less. In fact, with the exception of Docca, there aren't many on here who have posted bills close the supposed 'average UK bill' (and Docca's situation is not average ). So they're either all living in hovels, or most are pretty savvy when it comes to reducing their bills or have at the very least put some thought into mitigation.
Your talents are wasted here, pop over to FB and fill your boots. Everyone seems to agree that the govt should be giving them more money, that it's all the Tories fault (despite much of Europe having similar issues), and one particular gem was a woman complaining that her lack of financial support from the govt meant she had to cut down how much TV she watched everyday

[irie]

To be fair you've done a pretty good job of it and you've arranged your affairs quite well. One can't plan for everything, but you've done a decent job of it and you're reasonably well insulated from life's vicissitudes.
I wasn't being unpleasant, but you were having a little poke at me and in good humour I gave you one back.

If we were to use a metaphor then your tree trunk in the garden and Hooners woodpile is what I've been advocating, winter is coming and unless you've got a stash of something to fall back on then you're going to catch a cold.

I didn't start making any decent decisions until I was in my late twenties and since then a few lightbulb moments and exposure to global business has allowed me to see behind the curtain. A significant lightbulb moment was becoming aware of the policy of massive inflation - it has been called quantitive easing but it's inflation of the money supply. Inflation doesn't mean prices going up, it actually means expansion of the money supply, prices going up are a symptom, but because one follows the other it is now commonly accepted that inflation means rising prices, as if it's some sort of cosmic force that just happens, but inflation is a policy, it's a conscious decision by policy makers, it's not something that just comes along on it's own.

Anyhow, the effects of an expansion of the money supply was always going to filter through to your average bloke on the street - especially when it's been massively accelerated over the last two years - and when it did I knew that we'd see a huge economic shift, the rich would get richer and the poor would get poorer at a pace that we haven't seen before, so a very basic plan was not to be poor - which is why I was saying get a better job, try and increase your income, save your money, put a bit away in a commodities ETF, hedge, etc.
This is just the creeping start of it.

I don't think it has anything to do with Brexit, that's a problem and it upset my personal plans but on a bigger scale it can be dealt with by traditional monetary theory, balancing rates, import/export, diplomacy and good logistics - this is something different.

Iccy has just discovered M3.

[cheb]

East or westbound?

[irie]

East or westbound?

That's the M4 you're thinking about. Beloved by the BoE.

[cheb]

Sorry guv, I don't go north of the river

[Asian Boss]

Tooley goons! Getting it done! Fear zoners! Defending the statues and attacking the minorities! The Festival of Brexit!


It's all working out so well. Keep it Brexity people. Nice and Brexity.

[Asian Boss]

Stop driving so much and don’t have your annual holiday to Tenerife - meanwhile Bangladesh has almost finished construction on their latest mega coal fired power station.

We have an above average quantity of historical emissions to consider. We're also far more able to reduce our emissions while retaining a certain quality of living.

[JackyJoll]

We have an above average quantity of historical emissions to consider. We're also far more able to reduce our emissions while retaining a certain quality of living.

Have they got to catch us up, before anyone actually fixes anything?

[Asian Boss]

We have an above average quantity of historical emissions to consider. We're also far more able to reduce our emissions while retaining a certain quality of living.

Have they got to catch us up, before anyone actually fixes anything?

Absolutely not.

But if anyone has a responsibility to lead from the front, it's the larger historical emitters.

[JackyJoll]

We have an above average quantity of historical emissions to consider. We're also far more able to reduce our emissions while retaining a certain quality of living.

Have they got to catch us up, before anyone actually fixes anything?

Absolutely not.

But if anyone has a responsibility to lead from the front, it's the larger historical emitters.

I don’t feel much guilt for stuff Benjamin Disraeli or Cecil Rhodes did, but you reckon I should sit in the cold while Bangladesh burns a zillion tons of coal a minute?

Yeah fine. I’ll give your advice the attention it merits.

[Asian Boss]

Have they got to catch us up, before anyone actually fixes anything?

Absolutely not.

But if anyone has a responsibility to lead from the front, it's the larger historical emitters.

I don’t feel much guilt for stuff Benjamin Disraeli or Cecil Rhodes did, but you reckon I should sit in the cold while Bangladesh burns a zillion tons of coal a minute?

Yeah fine. I’ll give your advice the attention it merits.

Historical emissions are well documented. You can choose to ignore those if you wish.

[Hoonercat]

Those Bangladeshis pay about five times less for household electricity and about three times less for gasoline products.
8/10ths of the worlds energy units are cheaper than the UKs but yeah UK price rises is all about global energy prices

Bangladesh hasn't discovered a new method of producing energy that is cheaper than any other way in history, their prices are less because there is less money in their pockets. Strange that eh.

They pay less because the govt has to subsidise, which puts a huge strain on their budget. Three weeks ago fuel prices were hiked by 50% overight, as the govt can no longer afford the cost. Frequent power outages due to lack of natural gas imports, public sector workers having their working day cut to save energy, schools closed for one day extra to save energy, diesel-run power plants taken offline as they're too expensive to run. Domestic gas prices hiked by almost 33% last month, with another increase predicted shortly. Sounds wonderful

[Count Steer]

Are we talking wholesale or retail prices?

[Cousin Jack]

......,.....I was in Bangladesh discussing energy shortages with ministers in 2011.......

Excellent one! Were they C of E or Methodist?

[Count Steer]

Are we talking wholesale or retail prices?

Both, internal and import, but you're barking up the wrong tree with where I think you're going with this and I genuinely can't be arsed with your Irie style sitting back and picking at whatever anyone writes like a music critic who can't play a note but tells anyone who can they're not playing it right.

Attaboy! I assume the tree to bark up is QE like you told us about last year.

I would like to know where Bangladesh gets 'cheap' imported oil and gas from though. Also whether subsidising retail prices makes much difference compared with taxing them and putting tax on the tax. Similarly when you say 'cheap' is that relative to average incomes? Also how the relative price differential has changed since ooh...say 1960 and how that has compared to other commodities.

Still, you didn't miss us for long did you?

[Count Steer]

Attaboy! I assume the tree to bark up is QE like you told us about last year.

I would like to know where Bangladesh gets 'cheap' imported oil and gas from though. Also whether subsidising retail prices makes much difference compared with taxing them and putting tax on the tax. Similarly when you say 'cheap' is that relative to average incomes? Also how the relative price differential has changed since ooh...say 1960 and how that has compared to other commodities.

Still, you didn't miss us for long did you?

Instead of asking me questions (because you don't know) and then picking at it like you knew all along, why don't you tell me what the situation is?
You're either an Irie alias or his twin, you seem to know nothing until someone else educates you and then you claim to have known all along and even know better.

You reached your ceiling a long time ago fella and you're nothing more than white noise keeping this section of the forum churning.

Is that the long winded way of saying you don't know or that the answer undermines your argument?

You're a bit like one of those two club novelty golf tournaments. Club 1...make a statement. Club 2...start insulting people. Nothing else in the bag then?