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Mussels wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 4:48 pm
I've had a van van, I think you have the better option already for your uses.
In some ways i'm pretty torn on this aspect now i'm giving it more thought. The traveliner gives more seating... But at the expense of no bulkhead and the Vito is quite a low van in terms of getting bikes in and out. The 3 seats are a couple of times a year requirement and the time we'd need 5 seats, well that's incredibly rare.

The van van gives the ability to lob dirty bikes in and then just brush it out afterwards.

But the Traveliner does admittedly give a nicer place to sit and have a lunch/break/day.

It could be argued the van is more secure as you can't see into it... but the Traveliner is quite secure in that context as it's tinted all round and quite a dark tint at that so you struggle to see in the bugger anyway.

I love the auto of the Vito... driving the auto is really nice... But the tax on the big thing is pretty high i must admit... But over the course of a year does it much matter... not really.

I'm kinda happy the dealer has now gone away to chat to the boss as i honestly don't know what way to go on this.
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On the basis that if they'd fixed it with breaker parts before you bought it, you wouldn't have known and would still have been a happy bunny - that's pretty much where you'll be if they repair it, only you'll know it's been fixed, I'd just let them fix it.
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weeksy wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 4:56 pm
It could be argued the van is more secure as you can't see into it... but the Traveliner is quite secure in that context as it's tinted all round and quite a dark tint at that so you struggle to see in the bugger anyway.
Go out to any motor with limo tint in your street. Look into it with your phones camera or just take a picture. You will see all that is in there. Not sure if it works with mirror tint but that looks gash on any colour of motor.
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Count Steer wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 5:08 pm On the basis that if they'd fixed it with breaker parts before you bought it, you wouldn't have known and would still have been a happy bunny - that's pretty much where you'll be if they repair it, only you'll know it's been fixed, I'd just let them fix it.
True indeed.

As with anything, we know things break and things get repaired. It could be an electrical thing or could be a mechanical thing.

I guess my slight worry here is... they fix it.... but it's not 100% due to the disagreement between my guy and their guy and we end up with me having to throw money in to get it sorted.. Which if it's £200 that's OK, £400 it's a pain but OK, but after that it starts getting a bit painful.

This is my current "what i buy if i bin the MErc"

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/van-detail ... on=at_vans

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/van-detail ... on=at_vans

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/van-detail ... on=at_vans

I'm slightly surprised with how many vans don't come with air-con.... I expected them all to do so...well most... but loads don't.
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When you loaded the KTM how much room did you have behind it? A bulkhead would push the bike back about a foot.
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Mussels wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 5:38 pm When you loaded the KTM how much room did you have behind it? A bulkhead would push the bike back about a foot.
Plenty, I'd say 3' roughly. But the Traveliner is a 'long' which I assume equates to lwb in the van type Vito.
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Get your money back, put a bit more in and buy a nice van. Sorted. 👍
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Dodgy knees wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 5:46 pm Get your money back, put a bit more in and buy a nice van. Sorted. 👍
You say stuff like this all the time.

A nice van is £15,000+

Budget is roughly £10000

That's 50% more, but where exactly you think I'm getting £5000 more I simply don't know lol. It's not magic. I can't use random man maths and make £5000 appear
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Johnny 5 is alive :lol:

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A lot of dealers use secondhand parts. New parts killl profit margins. I think as long as the problem is fixed than that’s fine. I’d be quite happy with that option and if you hadn’t had the scanning option and dropped it off and hit it back fixed with the guy saying something like it needed a new relay you’d have been none the wiser and happy as Larry.

I reckon this motor fits the bill well and if me were ther I’d stick with it.👍
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Yorick wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 3:36 pm Maybe accept the Breaker parts. But make them agree to guarantee them.
A dealer has to repair but doesn’t have to guarantee the repair. If it goes again it’s another warranty’s repair.
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Taipan wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:03 pm A lot of dealers use secondhand parts. New parts killl profit margins. I think as long as the problem is fixed than that’s fine. I’d be quite happy with that option and if you hadn’t had the scanning option and dropped it off and hit it back fixed with the guy saying something like it needed a new relay you’d have been none the wiser and happy as Larry.

I reckon this motor fits the bill well and if me were ther I’d stick with it.👍
You'd probably also never even know if they had. Car goes in broken, car comes back fixed, everyone's happy and few questions asked.

The only place you really have a valid expectation of 100% brand name parts etc. is the franchise dealer innit? Unless you specifically ask for them that is, then probably pay extra.
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Ok.

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Even main dealers fit used parts. Not normally from a breakers but refurbed items from warranty claims etc.
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That door electrical part. Does it need coded and is this the 500 quid part for the price of a few beers?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115272756645 ... %7Ciid%3A1
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Felix wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 9:09 pm That door electrical part. Does it need coded and is this the 500 quid part for the price of a few beers?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115272756645 ... %7Ciid%3A1
I think Weeksy's van is newer than the 639, next gen is 447 iirc
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Felix wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 9:09 pm That door electrical part. Does it need coded and is this the 500 quid part for the price of a few beers?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115272756645 ... %7Ciid%3A1
Is it RHS, LHS, NS or OS? :D
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Felix wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 9:09 pm That door electrical part. Does it need coded and is this the 500 quid part for the price of a few beers?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115272756645 ... %7Ciid%3A1
No one said the part was £500. But yes that's the part. Or one of them anyway
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weeksy wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 9:21 pm
Felix wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 9:09 pm That door electrical part. Does it need coded and is this the 500 quid part for the price of a few beers?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115272756645 ... %7Ciid%3A1
No one said the part was £500. But yes that's the part. Or one of them anyway
Thought i read you said Merc wanted 500 for the part. Never mind but if its something that blows often i would be having a spare and storing in the back of the motor. I have a simmilar issue but central locking. Passenger door keeps blowing a relay what lives in a module and has five relays inside. It costs £150 a time to fix what is not much but its blown twice this year. I keep saying i must find out what relay is for what in the module as its a very small 50p part. I just need to learn to weld on circuit boards and determine what relay is for what door. Its just blown again. I hate locking the door analogue :lol:
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Felix wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 9:33 pm
weeksy wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 9:21 pm
Felix wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 9:09 pm That door electrical part. Does it need coded and is this the 500 quid part for the price of a few beers?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115272756645 ... %7Ciid%3A1
No one said the part was £500. But yes that's the part. Or one of them anyway
Thought i read you said Merc wanted 500 for the part. Never mind but if its something that blows often i would be having a spare and storing in the back of the motor. I have a simmilar issue but central locking. Passenger door keeps blowing a relay what lives in a module and has five relays inside. It costs £150 a time to fix what is not much but its blown twice this year. I keep saying i must find out what relay is for what in the module as its a very small 50p part. I just need to learn to weld on circuit boards and determine what relay is for what door. Its just blown again. I hate locking the door analogue :lol:
No, there's 2. That one is £145 or so from Merc. But yeah there's a fair few in eBay and breakers that are used.

So that one is easy for dealer, well, once recoded. Then there's the 2nd issue, dealer thinks it's CD player within head unit, my blokes machine thinks it's something different. Me I dunno.

I guess it's just the slightly unknown that worries me. But arguably it's less of an unknown than a completely unknown new vehicle which could come with its own quirks