Mr. Dazzle wrote: ↑Sun Jul 31, 2022 6:33 pm
Sat in Trowell services on the M1 with a suspected broken timing chain. Well I haven't got one, my car has.
They're supposed to be fit for life and this one wasn't making any rattles etc. Engine just completely died out of the blue.
Has this been diagnosed by rescue services, and if so what are the teli-tale signs (apart from engine stopping precipitately. of course)? Presumably the engine didn't die at the services...?
Dashboard lit up with a generic "engine dying stop now" warning followed by total loss of power 2s later. No PAS or power brakes either.
Blind luck that I was half a mile 'upstream' of the services.
Sat in the service car park, the engine will turn over happily but it's got no chug-chug. Just spins. It's a diesel so normally its got proper chugs and engine shakes when starting.
RAC man's OBD reader shows "chamshaft position unknown" and "exhaust gas flow inconsistent with engine speed" failures.
Some might say it was pushing it anyway. BMW claim they're fit and forget and last at least 200k. The received wisdom of the Internet says timing chains last 100k. This car has done 120k but has always been serviced on the button by either BMW or an indy specialist.
There were no classic rattles or anything like that though.
I'll send it to the local indy in the week and see what they reckon. Not holding my breath though, just changing the chain on a functional engine is more than a grand.
The real kicker will be whether there has been valve/piston contact. I presume it's an interference type design? Most are these days. When an incompetent French garagiste Donald Ducked my Beta motor fitting a timing belt I never asked him to, 7 out of 8 valves were bent.
I really don't know, been asking myself the same. If you went to a dealer and ordered a car you'd have several month's wait....
Perhaps I'll get some god awful car no other bugger wants
I can see myself with a short term lease to cover a gap at this rate. The company scheme examples I've seen are crazy good, better than half price loke I said, so fingers crossed something pans out.
Mr. Dazzle wrote: ↑Sun Jul 31, 2022 6:33 pm
Sat in Trowell services on the M1 with a suspected broken timing chain. Well I haven't got one, my car has.
They're supposed to be fit for life and this one wasn't making any rattles etc. Engine just completely died out of the blue.
BMW?
"Of all the stories you told me, which ones were true and which ones weren't?"
"My dear Doctor, they're all true."
"Even the lies?"
"Especially the lies."
Mr. Dazzle wrote: ↑Sun Jul 31, 2022 6:33 pm
Sat in Trowell services on the M1 with a suspected broken timing chain. Well I haven't got one, my car has.
They're supposed to be fit for life and this one wasn't making any rattles etc. Engine just completely died out of the blue.
Mr. Dazzle wrote: ↑Sun Jul 31, 2022 6:33 pm
Sat in Trowell services on the M1 with a suspected broken timing chain. Well I haven't got one, my car has.
They're supposed to be fit for life and this one wasn't making any rattles etc. Engine just completely died out of the blue.
BMW?
Aye but its the one they supposedly fixed
Hmm that sounds like they’ve been to the Kawasaki school of “fixed”.
Piston ring retaining pins allegedly fixed on KR1-S C3’s…..NOT!
"Of all the stories you told me, which ones were true and which ones weren't?"
"My dear Doctor, they're all true."
"Even the lies?"
"Especially the lies."
The previous gen 320d was notorious for timing chain failures, one of those 'when' not 'if' situations. This generation (F30) is supposed to be miles better.
I work for one of the premium German OEMs and can get cars better than half price.
Can you take out extended timing chain warranties?
