If we were to rejoin the EU tomorrow, what benefits would you miss most about Brexit?

[Mussels]

Imagine Remainers withdraw to a corner of Britain and have EU collusion to suppress the dissenting residents in that area...

A 'corner' big enough for 48%

It's less than that, I voted remain but I've changed my mind since then, if we voted again I'd vote out.

Same here, I voted against change but now we're out I'd be hard pressed to think of reasons to rejoin.

[slowsider]

Imagine Remainers withdraw to a corner of Britain and have EU collusion to suppress the dissenting residents in that area...

A 'corner' big enough for 48%

It's less than that, I voted remain but I've changed my mind since then, if we voted again I'd vote out.

You may be in a minority

"New polling by Ipsos UK in partnership with the EU:UK Forum shows that the proportion of Britons who think the UK’s exit from the EU has made their daily life worse has risen from three in ten in June 2021 to 45% now. Seven in ten of those who voted Remain feel this is the case, up from half last year – and the proportion of Leave voters who say the same has doubled over the same period, from 10 to 22 per cent."

https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/almost-half ... ade-little

[Horse]

Imagine Remainers withdraw to a corner of Britain and have EU collusion to suppress the dissenting residents in that area...

A 'corner' big enough for 48%

It's less than that, I voted remain but I've changed my mind since then, if we voted again I'd vote out.

That's lucky. Slowsider said that your allocated section was a puddle

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

You may be in a minority

"New polling by Ipsos UK in partnership with the EU:UK Forum shows that the proportion of Britons who think the UK’s exit from the EU has made their daily life worse has risen from three in ten in June 2021 to 45% now. Seven in ten of those who voted Remain feel this is the case, up from half last year – and the proportion of Leave voters who say the same has doubled over the same period, from 10 to 22 per cent."

https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/almost-half ... ade-little

Meh,
a) I don't care
b) You can get the result you want in an opinion poll if you ask the right question to the right people

If Britain went back in the EU now we'd be the EUs bitches, we'd have to do what they want, pay into it as much as they want and join the Euro, Britain would have no bargaining power, with hind sight I can see that once David Cameron threatened to leave the EU the only right answer for Britain was to leave because staying would have led to the EU bitch situation.

[Saga Lout]

I think I'd miss the illusion that every five years or so we're allowed to vote out the shower of shit that passes for our government and replace it with a different shower of shit. The EU doesn't even have that fantasy going for it.

[demographic]

I think I'd miss the illusion that every five years or so we're allowed to vote out the shower of shit that passes for our government and replace it with a different shower of shit. The EU doesn't even have that fantasy going for it.

What, you mean like unelected bureaucrats making decisions or mishandling negotiations that affect us all adversely?

Oh, hang on a bit...

[irie]

I think I'd miss the illusion that every five years or so we're allowed to vote out the shower of shit that passes for our government and replace it with a different shower of shit. The EU doesn't even have that fantasy going for it.

What, you mean like unelected bureaucrats making decisions or mishandling negotiations that affect us all adversely?

Oh, hang on a bit...

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One key difference is that when a UK government is voted out of power the appointees go with them, but for obvious reasons that can't happen in the EU. Even the so-called EU parliament can't get rid of the Brussels apparatchiks.

[Saga Lout]

I think I'd miss the illusion that every five years or so we're allowed to vote out the shower of shit that passes for our government and replace it with a different shower of shit. The EU doesn't even have that fantasy going for it.

What, you mean like unelected bureaucrats making decisions or mishandling negotiations that affect us all adversely?

Oh, hang on a bit...

Lord-Frost-4176679.jpg?r=1657817435519[/img]

One key difference is that when a UK government is voted out of power the appointees go with them, but for obvious reasons that can't happen in the EU. Even the so-called EU parliament can't get rid of the Brussels apparatchiks.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[mangocrazy]

What, you mean like unelected bureaucrats making decisions or mishandling negotiations that affect us all adversely?

Oh, hang on a bit...

Lord-Frost-4176679.jpg?r=1657817435519[/img]

One key difference is that when a UK government is voted out of power the appointees go with them, but for obvious reasons that can't happen in the EU. Even the so-called EU parliament can't get rid of the Brussels apparatchiks.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

For 'apparatchiks' substitute 'Civil Service' and you'll see how manifestly untrue that statement is.

[mangocrazy]

This is a perfect example of the clusterfuck that is Brexit. Bloke has to emigrate to France and set up a company there so he can continue doing what he did pre-Brexit without it costing him £150k p.a.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -paperwork

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

So all you people who want to rejoin the EU, are you happy with having speed limiters on your cars, are you happy about not having any say in whether you have a speed limiter on you car, are you happy about not being asked if you wanted a speed limiter on your car?

[Horse]

This is a perfect example of the clusterfuck that is Brexit. Bloke has to emigrate to France and set up a company there so he can continue doing what he did pre-Brexit without it costing him £150k p.a.

'We' (I had nothing to do with it) had to set up some sort of company with another company in the EU to be able to continue bringing EU money into the UK.

[mangocrazy]

So all you people who want to rejoin the EU, are you happy with having speed limiters on your cars, are you happy about not having any say in whether you have a speed limiter on you car, are you happy about not being asked if you wanted a speed limiter on your car?

Explain to me how rejoining the EU means we have to have speed limiters on our cars. And even if we are outside the EU, Type Approval normally means we get the same spec of vehicle that the EU gets anyway (with RHD/LHD differences, of course).

[Cousin Jack]

This is a perfect example of the clusterfuck that is Brexit. Bloke has to emigrate to France and set up a company there so he can continue doing what he did pre-Brexit without it costing him £150k p.a.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -paperwork

What it REALLY says is that he reckons he can do the paperwork cheaper himself.

[Mr. Dazzle]

This is a perfect example of the clusterfuck that is Brexit. Bloke has to emigrate to France and set up a company there so he can continue doing what he did pre-Brexit without it costing him £150k p.a.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -paperwork

It's an absolute fucking nightmare to send stuff to Europe now IME. And I work for a huge German OEM, sending stuff to Germany, using a dedicated DHL account with a Brexity specialist.

Shit still gets stuck in customs for a week or two more often than not IME.

[Cousin Jack]

So all you people who want to rejoin the EU, are you happy with having speed limiters on your cars, are you happy about not having any say in whether you have a speed limiter on you car, are you happy about not being asked if you wanted a speed limiter on your car?

Explain to me how rejoining the EU means we have to have speed limiters on our cars. And even if we are outside the EU, Type Approval normally means we get the same spec of vehicle that the EU gets anyway (with RHD/LHD differences, of course).

And those could (in the UK) be switched off, or set to 200mph, or whatever we chose. Or replaced with a black box that does all the same jobs EXCEPT limit the speed.

[Cousin Jack]

It's an absolute fucking nightmare to send stuff to Europe now IME. And I work for a huge German OEM, sending stuff to Germany, using a dedicated DHL account with a Brexity specialist.

Shit still gets stuck in customs for a week or two more often than not IME.

So it is OUR fault that the Brussels bureaucracy is a nightmare. Of course it is!

[Mr. Dazzle]

Well it didn't happen in 2019, put it that way.

Stuff gets stuck going Germany -> UK too.

[Cousin Jack]

Well it didn't happen in 2019, put it that way.

Stuff gets stuck going Germany -> UK too.

No, because we were inside the asylum looking out. Now we are outside looking in, doesn't mean we want to actually GO in again.

[mangocrazy]

This is a perfect example of the clusterfuck that is Brexit. Bloke has to emigrate to France and set up a company there so he can continue doing what he did pre-Brexit without it costing him £150k p.a.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -paperwork

What it REALLY says is that he reckons he can do the paperwork cheaper himself.

But to do that he needs to emigrate and set up a company abroad. Which is the point you appear to be missing.