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demographic wrote: Sun Jul 17, 2022 6:58 pm
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That sums Brexit up nicely.
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gremlin wrote: Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:55 am Where did he get the saw from?
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gremlin wrote: Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:55 am
demographic wrote: Sun Jul 17, 2022 6:58 pm
irie wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 9:57 pm Image
That sums Brexit up nicely.
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gremlin wrote: Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:55 am
demographic wrote: Sun Jul 17, 2022 6:58 pm
irie wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 9:57 pm Image
That sums Brexit up nicely.
Where did he get the saw from?
Its funded by tbe Kremlin and given to him via Arron Banks. Maybe.
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http://www.newenergyscotland.com

SIM generator

Magic beans, perpetual motion, or plausible?

https://www.newenergyscotland.com/how-it-works/

Stage one is when the generator is at the top of the water column.

It is much heavier than the water it displaces, and will sink at a high velocity.

By reducing the speed of this descent, the device will generate power until it reaches near the bottom of the water column.

Stage two involves the generator reconfiguring and allowing air at barometric pressure to enter the generator and making it more bouyant.

Detailed analysis and calculation by research experts clearly indicate that due to the unique design, this stage is feasible, and should operate as described.

In Stage three, if the generator is released, it will float to the top of the water column at a high velocity.

By reducing the speed of this ascent, this will generate power until it reaches its starting position near the top of the water column.

Stage four involves the generator reconfiguring again, becoming heavier than the water it displaces, and sinks, which starts stage one of the cycle again.
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Stage two involves the generator reconfiguring and allowing air at barometric pressure to enter the generator and making it more bouyant.
They don’t go far into details. If that means it gets to the bottom, then drains the water in the generator to the outside of the column to allow air into the generator, then that water will have to be replaced in the column, from a source with a higher head than the column.

That would mean it uses the same energy source as hydro-electric power.
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JackyJoll wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 8:25 am
Stage two involves the generator reconfiguring and allowing air at barometric pressure to enter the generator and making it more bouyant.
If that means it gets to the bottom, then drains the water in the generator to the outside of the column to allow air into the generator, then that water will have to be replaced in the column, from a source with a higher head than the column.
It seemed to me that the energy used to displace the water and replace with (compressed?) air could exceed that gained from the rise and fall.
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Don't these things use off-peak to recharge them then generate during high demand? I thought that was how stuff like Dinorwig worked....pump the water up at night then generate during the day.
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Horse wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 12:20 pm
JackyJoll wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 8:25 am
Stage two involves the generator reconfiguring and allowing air at barometric pressure to enter the generator and making it more bouyant.
If that means it gets to the bottom, then drains the water in the generator to the outside of the column to allow air into the generator, then that water will have to be replaced in the column, from a source with a higher head than the column.
It seemed to me that the energy used to displace the water and replace with (compressed?) air could exceed that gained from the rise and fall.
Yep.

The falling down bit would work to generate power. The rising back up but would too.

The bit that is "cheating" is filling the thing with air at the bottom of the column. Energr required to do that will be more than you generate and/or the overall height of the column drops like JJ says.
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Horse wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 12:20 pm
It seemed to me that the energy used to displace the water and replace with (compressed?) air could exceed that gained from the rise and fall.
Yes, from what they said, I couldn’t tell if they do it all within the column like that, or keep replacing drained water.

Anyway, it’s unconvincing. Give them a great big subsidy!
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Russia shoots down its own latest and greatest military aircraft by mistake.
Apparently the SU34 has a host of electronic countermeasures, various radar systems to protect it.
So either their anti aircraft missiles are a bit special, or perhaps Moscow overstate the effectiveness of the SU34
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Demannu wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 1:12 pm Russia shoots down its own latest and greatest military aircraft by mistake.
Apparently the SU34 has a host of electronic countermeasures, various radar systems to protect it.
So either their anti aircraft missiles are a bit special, or perhaps Moscow overstate the effectiveness of the SU34
Or perhaps it's not programmed to detect the profile of 'friendly fire'? Either way. it's a b1t sh1t...
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I wonder what kind of range she gets kicking on like that.
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Two of the world's most important people catching covid in quick succession....
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-62256544

Me, then Biden. In order of both importance and covid catching.
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A proper Pasting :D Folk still say that?

https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/wes ... d-24518717
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This goes some of the way to explaining the queues at Dover.

https://www.cityam.com/govt-rejects-33m ... re-likely/
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Pirahna wrote: Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:18 pm This goes some of the way to explaining the queues at Dover.

https://www.cityam.com/govt-rejects-33m ... re-likely/
A guy from the port was on telly this morning saying they had installed the extra booths but the French hadn't sent enough staff over to fill them. France blamed a technical fault in the tunnel and the UK called bullshit
Don't know what the problem is but it doesn't look like a lack of booths.
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Mussels wrote: Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:28 pm
A guy from the port was on telly this morning saying they had installed the extra booths but the French hadn't sent enough staff over to fill them. France blamed a technical fault in the tunnel and the UK called bullshit
Don't know what the problem is but it doesn't look like a lack of booths.
So it's the fault of the French. Don't they realise that they need us more than we need them?
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Extra booths were installed a few days ago, nothing like leaving it to the last minute.
Eurotunnel traffic is also being hit with long delays today. A long section of the M20 is closed to accommodate thousands of lorries being stacked up, meaning holidaymakers are being sent on a lenghty diversion. One traveller tweeted he'd been waiting 5 hours to get into Eurotunnel and moved about 100 metres in that time. :thumbdown:
Doug Bannister, Chief Executive, Port of Dover said: "Since the UK left the EU, we are subject to full passport checks. Before, all of our freight traffic would go through in about zero seconds and now it's 60 seconds to maybe up to 90 seconds per truck. All of that adds up.
The European Entry Exit System (EES), the way it's currently thought through is that it will work well in an airport, but as of now, there is no technology, no process and nothing designed for vehicular traffic in a busy ferry terminal. This is something that is concerning us because if we don't get that right, everything will stop.