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All the above. :lol:

Funniest thing is that it was the front wheel that got broken on the kerb and the solution is for the rear. Changing a pop-rivetted tyre would be fun too. :thumbup:

The idea of putting the plastic pipe in to make puncture-proof wheels could be interesting. Does anyone do anything like it? I suppose 'solid' tyres are available.
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Count Steer wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:02 am All the above. :lol:

Funniest thing is that it was the front wheel that got broken on the kerb and the solution is for the rear. Changing a pop-rivetted tyre would be fun too. :thumbup:

The idea of putting the plastic pipe in to make puncture-proof wheels could be interesting. Does anyone do anything like it? I suppose 'solid' tyres are available.
@Dodgy knees tried some solids not long ago... they were apparently not very nice :D
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weeksy wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:04 am
@Dodgy knees tried some solids not long ago... they were apparently not very nice :D
Pneumatic tyres were invented to overcome the problems of solid tyres.
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Cousin Jack wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 10:08 am
weeksy wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:04 am
@Dodgy knees tried some solids not long ago... they were apparently not very nice :D
Pneumatic tyres were invented to overcome the problems of solid tyres.
There are a lot more materials available now though. You could tailor an equivalent behaviour from a light weight tyre using a closed-cell foam centre with a denser outer I imagine. Fitting/security on the rim might be an issue. I guess if the demand was there it would happen but there are other anti-puncture solutions so there isn't the drive to do it.

Lateral thinking....Wonder what they did on the moon buggy? Probably didn't take a puncture repair kit. :D
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Love the OP - it's just doing it to prove you can, really?

ISTR the Moonbuggy had mesh/springy 'tyres'. I know they had to fashion some mudguards for it using the flight plan and duck tape. Bodging on the moon :D
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Michelin make foam replacements for tubes for dirt bike tyres, you can buy them in different "pressures"
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Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 11:01 am Michelin make foam replacements for tubes for dirt bike tyres, you can buy them in different "pressures"
I thought someone must. :D

Must be a devil of a job to fit if the tyre is going to be secure on the rim?
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Count Steer wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 11:08 am
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 11:01 am Michelin make foam replacements for tubes for dirt bike tyres, you can buy them in different "pressures"
I thought someone must. :D

Must be a devil of a job to fit if the tyre is going to be secure on the rim?
I haven't used one, but they're supposed to be arses to fit without damaging them, I think you use rim locks to keep the tyre in place, they wear out quickly if they get used on hard surfaces.
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Francis Cade tried some recently I think 🤔

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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 10:51 am Love the OP - it's just doing it to prove you can, really?

ISTR the Moonbuggy had mesh/springy 'tyres'. I know they had to fashion some mudguards for it using the flight plan and duck tape. Bodging on the moon :D
If I remember correctly the wheels/tyres on the moon buggy could not support the weight of the buggy on the Earth and only worked on the moon :)
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JamJar wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:31 pm
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 10:51 am Love the OP - it's just doing it to prove you can, really?

ISTR the Moonbuggy had mesh/springy 'tyres'. I know they had to fashion some mudguards for it using the flight plan and duck tape. Bodging on the moon :D
If I remember correctly the wheels/tyres on the moon buggy could not support the weight of the buggy on the Earth and only worked on the moon :)
I recently saw an article on puncture proof tyres for cars using plastic fingers (I think) instead of air
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Good pic of the Lunar Rover wheels here. From a distance they look like pneumatic tyres but they're mesh with aluminium treads.

Pic---> https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-o ... 9750830000
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Biggest problem with solid tyres was weight. Made pedalling twice as hard. Maybe better on an ebike. 🤷🏻‍♂️
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