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Swiss Racing Ban

Post by KungFooBob »

I had no idea that racing has been banned in Switzerland for the last 67 years.

But the ban is being lifted!

I guess there isn't any circuits if it's not been allowed?

https://www.thedrive.com/accelerator/sw ... 7-year-ban
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Didn't Michael Schumacher try and claim he was unemployed for tax purposes seeing as Switzerland didn't recognise his profession as a racing driver 😀
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Dickyboy wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 3:32 pm Didn't Michael Schumacher try and claim he was unemployed for tax purposes seeing as Switzerland didn't recognise his profession as a racing driver 😀
Sports stars pay tax in the country of the event ;)
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Yorick wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 3:43 pm
Dickyboy wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 3:32 pm Didn't Michael Schumacher try and claim he was unemployed for tax purposes seeing as Switzerland didn't recognise his profession as a racing driver 😀
Sports stars pay tax in the country of the event ;)
No they don't, they pay tax in the country they're paid in, same as anyone else.
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Mr Schumacher negotiated with his local council about how much tax he would pay - and they accepted the offer. It's a Swiss thing. ( It was something along the line that he would pay the whole community's tax for X years if he only paid Y....) And he also used to play in the village/town's football team.

I am not sure where the Swiss removal of this ban goes - I can't see anywhere for a racetrack. But they could do the most stupendous hill-climbs ...
Hard to see a street circuit in Bern, Basel, Zurich or Geneva
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Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 3:53 pm
Yorick wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 3:43 pm
Dickyboy wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 3:32 pm Didn't Michael Schumacher try and claim he was unemployed for tax purposes seeing as Switzerland didn't recognise his profession as a racing driver 😀
Sports stars pay tax in the country of the event ;)
No they don't, they pay tax in the country they're paid in, same as anyone else.
https://www.buzzacott.co.uk/insights/uk ... %20payment.
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Yorick wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 3:58 pm
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 3:53 pm
Yorick wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 3:43 pm

Sports stars pay tax in the country of the event ;)
No they don't, they pay tax in the country they're paid in, same as anyone else.
https://www.buzzacott.co.uk/insights/uk ... %20payment.
Same in USA

https://www.irs.gov/individuals/interna ... e%20income.
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Yorick wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 3:58 pm
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 3:53 pm
Yorick wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 3:43 pm

Sports stars pay tax in the country of the event ;)
No they don't, they pay tax in the country they're paid in, same as anyone else.
https://www.buzzacott.co.uk/insights/uk ... %20payment.
Feck me, you expect me to read all that.
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Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:06 pm
Yorick wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 3:58 pm
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 3:53 pm

No they don't, they pay tax in the country they're paid in, same as anyone else.
https://www.buzzacott.co.uk/insights/uk ... %20payment.
Feck me, you expect me to read all that.
It simply says that in UK and USA all foreign sports stars and entertainers have tax deducted on earnings in that country.
Same all over the world.
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I'd be amazed if mega rich sports stars didn't have all their contracts worded so they earn nothing for performing and earn everything for the one day a year they turn up at the office in some low tax country. Something along those lines anyway, so they're not actually earning any money on paper in these high tax countries.

Maybe not though - but then again, why do so many of them live in tax havens?

It'd be a nice problem to have :D
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Yorick wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:08 pm
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:06 pm
Feck me, you expect me to read all that.
It simply says that in UK and USA all foreign sports stars and entertainers have tax deducted on earnings in that country.
Same all over the world.
But is Marc Marquez (for example) paid anything by Silverstone when he races in the UK?
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Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:37 pm
Yorick wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:08 pm
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:06 pm

Feck me, you expect me to read all that.
It simply says that in UK and USA all foreign sports stars and entertainers have tax deducted on earnings in that country.
Same all over the world.
But is Marc Marquez (for example) paid anything by Silverstone when he races in the UK?
Yes. He has to pay tax on his prize money.
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Yorick wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:38 pm
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:37 pm
Yorick wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:08 pm
It simply says that in UK and USA all foreign sports stars and entertainers have tax deducted on earnings in that country.
Same all over the world.
But is Marc Marquez (for example) paid anything by Silverstone when he races in the UK?
Yes. He has to pay tax on his prize money.
Same as Pogba pays 40% UK tax on his salary.
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45% I'd hope, or he's getting a raw deal for someone at his level. :D
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Re: Swiss Racing Ban

Post by Le_Fromage_Grande »

From your own link

"If you’re a foreign athlete or performer who is booked to perform and your UK income is expected to exceed your personal allowance (£12,570 for 2021/22), the payer must deduct withholding tax from the payment. The Foreign Entertainers Unit will only issue tax deduction certificates in your name and the total payment can be made up of both performance income and reimbursed expenses"

Does the winner of the British GP get over £12,570 in prize money?
Though it's seriously off subject and really doesn't matter and I don't care, so I don't know why I'm arguing this crap, not even sure what my point is.
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