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KungFooBob
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Post by KungFooBob Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:33 pm
Random crap that I've learnt/discovered today....
The Citroen 2CV Sahara
Looks like a normal 2CV, but they had an extra engine in the boot, they could run front wheel drive, rear wheel drive or four wheel drive.
They're so rare that if you want one today you'll be needing at least £70k!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citro%C3% ... heel_drive
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Post by Skub Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:38 pm
Funky.
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Post by Horse Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:56 pm
2CV with an engine in the boot?VIDEO
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Post by KungFooBob Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:59 pm
iirc they (Brabus) made a twin engined Smart Roadster too.
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Post by KungFooBob Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:01 pm
Horse wrote: ↑ Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:56 pm
2CV with an engine in the boot?
You'll need a 'Cogolin', as built for the Var fire brigade.
VIDEO
I was reading about that on the wiki page, it was so it could get into tight spaces and not need to turn around, not sure they couldn't just use reverse.. like French Tanks.
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Post by cheb Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:01 pm
How about the Peugeot 504 4x4 estate:
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Post by cheb Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:02 pm
I fancy owning a 2CV at some point, if only for the brilliantly simple design.
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Post by KungFooBob Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:04 pm
My old man rebuilt one for my sister as her first car, albeit a 2CV6.
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Post by Rockburner Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:25 pm
cheb wrote: ↑ Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:02 pm
I fancy owning a 2CV at some point, if only for the brilliantly simple design.
Moi aussi.
(obviously I'd be more than tempted to drop an R1150 engine into the thing....)
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Post by Rockburner Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:28 pm
KungFooBob wrote: ↑ Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:59 pm
iirc they (Brabus) made a twin engined Smart Roadster too.
There was a twin-engined Mini too (or several). (Apparantly almost impossible to drive because they couldn't get the throttles to synch very well - it was always either pulling from the front, or pushing from the rear which made the handling very odd).
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Post by KungFooBob Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:30 pm
I remember watching an episode of Shit Heap Challenge where they made a twin engined car... it was mentioned that they're not road legal in the UK, dunno if it's true, suppose I should google it.
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Post by Horse Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:33 pm
KungFooBob wrote: ↑ Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:01 pm Horse wrote: ↑ Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:56 pm
2CV with an engine in the boot?
You'll need a 'Cogolin', as built for the Var fire brigade.
VIDEO
I was reading about that on the wiki page, it was so it could get into tight spaces and not need to turn around, not sure they couldn't just use reverse.. like French Tanks.
Apparently it came about because the fire chief had to reverse, in the dark, several km (and guided by a guy on foot, with a torch).
The Cogolin worked on one engine (and set of controls at a time) at a time.
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Post by moth Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:46 pm
cheb wrote: ↑ Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:02 pm
I fancy owning a 2CV at some point, if only for the brilliantly simple design.
A fortnight of ownership should be enough to persuade you otherwise. Although in your relatively vehicle free environment perhaps not.
A old neighbour, back in the 1980s, was a fan of deux cheavaux and owned several. He took me for a drive in one.
I don't scare easily, but...
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Post by moth Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:50 pm
KungFooBob wrote: ↑ Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:04 pm
My old man rebuilt one for my sister as her first car, albeit a 2CV6.
Had a brand spanking new chassis and everything. He reckoned it was the only thing he'd worked on that used M7 bolts.
VW Beetles used them too. IIRC, mine had some of the bodywork attached with 'em.
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Post by Mr. Dazzle Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:00 pm
Mercedes F1 use MJ7 bolts. M7 is too common it would seem.
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Post by KungFooBob Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:10 pm
From what I can gather, twin engines are road legal in the UK if they drive the same axle.
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Post by Mr. Dazzle Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:13 pm
Wonder how 4WD hybrids with separate electric axles deal with that.
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Post by KungFooBob Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:15 pm
Mr. Dazzle wrote: ↑ Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:13 pm
Wonder how 4WD hybrids with separate electric axles deal with that.
Or any 4WD Tesla etc.
They laws may have changed, most of the stuff I was reading was conjecture on various custom car forums, I couldn't find the official government guidance.
Maybe with the advent of leccy cars they've had to change the law?
