Heads up, keep some cash handy in october

[Demannu]

There'll be bargains aplenty over in France when the new CT rules kick in.
Guessing they'll be going for homogulated stuff only, so loud pipes/no indicators etc will fail and doubt les motards will shell out for a new one. Some of you canny beggars might make a killing!

[weeksy]

Give us more of a clue?

[Yorick]

Over here everybody just puts the standard stuff back on for the ITV.
Then off the next day

[Yorick]

Give us more of a clue?

Vee hickles in Europe need to be 100% bog standard.

France now making bikes obey the rules?

[weeksy]

Give us more of a clue?

Vee hickles in Europe need to be 100% bog standard.

France now making bikes obey the rules?

I thought the UK were going down this road too?

I also thought France needed to be anyway, hence all the stock bits needed for the monster of despair?

[Yorick]

Give us more of a clue?

Vee hickles in Europe need to be 100% bog standard.

France now making bikes obey the rules?

I thought the UK were going down this road too?

I also thought France needed to be anyway, hence all the stock bits needed for the monster of despair?

In France bikes didn't need the equivalent of MOT

[Horse]

Give us more of a clue?

Vee hickles in Europe need to be 100% bog standard.

France now making bikes obey the rules?

I thought the UK were going down this road too?

I also thought France needed to be anyway, hence all the stock bits needed for the monster of despair?

IIRC it was Germany that had TUV (?) approval for any mods.

[weeksy]

Vee hickles in Europe need to be 100% bog standard.

France now making bikes obey the rules?

I thought the UK were going down this road too?

I also thought France needed to be anyway, hence all the stock bits needed for the monster of despair?

IIRC it was Germany that had TUV (?) approval for any mods.

Then why did Noggins bike need all the genuine Ducati parts ?

[Yorick]

If you fit summat like a tow bar, it has to be officially fitted. Then tested. Then added to the vehicle log book.

[mangocrazy]

I thought the UK were going down this road too?

I also thought France needed to be anyway, hence all the stock bits needed for the monster of despair?

IIRC it was Germany that had TUV (?) approval for any mods.

Then why did Noggins bike need all the genuine Ducati parts ?

I'm guessing because she was trying to register it in France? When importing and registering a vehicle it needs correct spec lights and exhaust at the very least. Also speedo must have km markings.

[MrLongbeard]

I thought the UK were going down this road too?

I also thought France needed to be anyway, hence all the stock bits needed for the monster of despair?

IIRC it was Germany that had TUV (?) approval for any mods.

Then why did Noggins bike need all the genuine Ducati parts ?

Because it was a UK bike, so needed a pukka inspection before being registered as a French bike? Or that's my recollection.

[Mr Moofo]

Vee hickles in Europe need to be 100% bog standard.

France now making bikes obey the rules?

I thought the UK were going down this road too?

I also thought France needed to be anyway, hence all the stock bits needed for the monster of despair?

IIRC it was Germany that had TUV (?) approval for any mods.

TUV is more of a quality standard or approval standard - you are allowed to fit TUV market items as they are regarded as fit for purpose. They don't have to be "standard".
In CH , in theory, you are only meant to use the tyres specified by the manufacturer. Everything else needs to be standard ( inc brake discs etc.

[weeksy]

I think the changing items on bikes away from stock is a bit of a lesser thing than it used to be in UK terms ?

Mine has a tail tidy but only because that's how it came to me, i'd happily go back to stock.

[Noggin]

IIRC it was Germany that had TUV (?) approval for any mods.

Then why did Noggins bike need all the genuine Ducati parts ?

I'm guessing because she was trying to register it in France? When importing and registering a vehicle it needs correct spec lights and exhaust at the very least. Also speedo must have km markings.

Because it was a UK bike, so needed a pukka inspection before being registered as a French bike? Or that's my recollection.

What they said. To get registered it has to be standard as per registration. After that I can change stuff - well, I'm pretty sure that the MOT equivalent won't be too horrific, only because the motards here will block all the roads completely!! LOL But who knows?!

[MrLongbeard]

I think the changing items on bikes away from stock is a bit of a lesser thing than it used to be in UK terms ?

Mine has a tail tidy but only because that's how it came to me, i'd happily go back to stock.

The only change I make for the MOT is the number plate, if the law changed such that I could only have a 100% stock bike I'm not sure that I'd bother.

[Dickyboy]

One way to kill off yet another creative industry I guess. Love to see a bit of individual customization myself.

[Demannu]

The issue is that les motards have had it so easy in France they have forgotten there are rules.
Admittedly there a plenty of roadside checks with noise meters as well as mechanical checks, but I doubt anyone has kept their standard pipes.
In our advanced riders group, one of the instructors asked me to have a look at his rear suspension as it was 'a bit vague'. There was about an inch of play when I gave the swingarm a lift.
Come 22/10, there will either be complete chaos or a glut of s/h bikes on the market.
At least it will get those deathtrap sans permis off the roads!

[mangocrazy]

Then why did Noggins bike need all the genuine Ducati parts ?

I'm guessing because she was trying to register it in France? When importing and registering a vehicle it needs correct spec lights and exhaust at the very least. Also speedo must have km markings.

Because it was a UK bike, so needed a pukka inspection before being registered as a French bike? Or that's my recollection.

What they said. To get registered it has to be standard as per registration. After that I can change stuff - well, I'm pretty sure that the MOT equivalent won't be too horrific, only because the motards here will block all the roads completely!! LOL But who knows?!

@Noggin How strict were they in enforcing 'standard'? Did the bike have to undergo an inspection? I'm wondering if my VFR would pass muster or not. It looks standard (ish) but has different forks, wheels and brakes. Exhausts are OE and I have a RHD headlight ready to fit.

[Demannu]

I'm guessing because she was trying to register it in France? When importing and registering a vehicle it needs correct spec lights and exhaust at the very least. Also speedo must have km markings.

Because it was a UK bike, so needed a pukka inspection before being registered as a French bike? Or that's my recollection.

What they said. To get registered it has to be standard as per registration. After that I can change stuff - well, I'm pretty sure that the MOT equivalent won't be too horrific, only because the motards here will block all the roads completely!! LOL But who knows?!

@Noggin How strict were they in enforcing 'standard'? Did the bike have to undergo an inspection? I'm wondering if my VFR would pass muster or not. It looks standard (ish) but has different forks, wheels and brakes. Exhausts are OE and I have a RHD headlight ready to fit.

Pretty sure Nogs hasnt got around to the DREAL inspection just yet!
What age is the VFR?
Pre2002/3 then it will need an inspection, as for how thorough they are, i've known vehicles fail for having the wrong filler cap fitted (i dont mean an emergency cap either), but i have also known some things go through that certainly shouldnt have (mid 90s yank tank with not a single e mark on any glass/lights and mph speedo)
DREAL are a law unto themselves and it may depend on whether or not the inspector had a good weekend or not.

[mangocrazy]

It's 1988, so should fall into Vehicule de Collection status. Not sure if that's a plus or minus point. The entire front end (forks, wheel, brakes, bars, master cylinders) are non-standard, so it would take a fairly one-eyed inspector not to notice that...