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lol we've not argued with you :)

What you're reason on social media isn't what you've seen here.
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That’s what I’m meaning the people elsewhere

And I don’t even mean arguing with me, it’s amongst themselves. I’m taking a back seat.
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wull wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 10:24 am That’s what I’m meaning the people elsewhere

And I don’t even mean arguing with me, it’s amongst themselves. I’m taking a back seat.
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Skub wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 11:31 am
wull wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 10:24 am That’s what I’m meaning the people elsewhere

And I don’t even mean arguing with me, it’s amongst themselves. I’m taking a back seat.
Folk on platforms such as 'Crash' are largely full of schitt. They bicker and argue like 12 year olds on YouTube. You get no informed opinion,just contention and 'you're a kunt,no you're a kunt.....
That's what separates this place from many others..

we're all cunts.... but we don't need anyone to tell us :D
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That footage clearly shows it but the onboards are so much better and clearer
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Is this cunt for real? Expected some space? Toprak’s on the kerb and maybe the edge of it at best, where the fuck you expecting him to go, what an absolute deluded twat. It’s mental, clear as day, he runs wide into him lol! Idiot!


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wull wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 12:23 pm Is this cunt for real? Expected some space? Toprak’s on the kerb and maybe the edge of it at best, where the fuck you expecting him to go, what an absolute deluded twat. It’s mental, clear as day, he runs wide into him lol! Idiot!


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I don't think it's deluded... I think it's maybe optimistic. But deluded, nah.. If Toprak had given him more space, they'd have had 25/20/16 points.... but they've both got none.

Plenty of riders would have given him the space then done him back.... but that's not what Toprak chose... right or wrong, it was an option.
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How could he have given him more room? That’s my point, he was ahead, it’s entirely up to JR to make the pass safely, if Toprak had came back across I’d be saying “yeah,absolutely” but Toprak stayed out on the edge of the racing track, on the kerb, he didn’t alter his line at all. In contrast to that JR clear as day runs out wide when he tries to make the pass abs goes straight into the side of JR.

The forward facing camera on JR’s bike shows this clearly and the rear facing camera on Toprak’s bike shows this.

Getting this footage is difficult, can’t find it and when I do I can’t steal it.
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wull wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 12:59 pm How could he have given him more room? That’s my point, he was ahead, it’s entirely up to JR to make the pass safely, if Toprak had came back across I’d be saying “yeah,absolutely” but Toprak stayed out on the edge of the racing track, on the kerb, he didn’t alter his line at all. In contrast to that JR clear as day runs out wide when he tries to make the pass abs goes straight into the side of JR.

The forward facing camera on JR’s bike shows this clearly and the rear facing camera on Toprak’s bike shows this.

Getting this footage is difficult, can’t find it and when I do I can’t steal it.
He'd have gone wider... simple as that... the track was wide enough to allow it there... however yes it would have been risky running up and over the kerbing... but he COULD....

i expect it's a question of terminolgy rather than Rea thinking Toprak was in the wrong..

Interviewer "Did you think it was a bit tight....?"
Rea "i thought he could have given me a bit more room"

Notice, not SHOULD have.... but could have.. possibly at a consequnece to himself of course.

Don't forget, this is a split second decision at 120mph taken 20 times per lap and covering the distance of a white lines thickness between right and wrong.
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It’s not for him to give room it’s for JR to make a clean pass, he ran wide and maintained his line, it’s up to JR to make the clean pass which he didn’t do, he initiated a tighter turn but couldn’t maintain that and went wide and blootered Toprak, I can’t for the life of me see how I’m a million years anyone could say hat Toprak should have given more room.
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The point you’re making only makes sense and has relevance if Toprak turned back in towards the centre of the track or towards JR, then yeah I’d agree with that but because he maintained his line then absolutely no way was it anything to do with him.
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IMHO, I don't think Topdeck saw Rea until a nano-second before he took out his front wheel.
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wull wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 1:22 pm The point you’re making only makes sense and has relevance if Toprak turned back in towards the centre of the track or towards JR, then yeah I’d agree with that but because he maintained his line then absolutely no way was it anything to do with him.
Mate, I've not once said it was
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wull wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 1:21 pm It’s not for him to give room it’s for JR to make a clean pass, he ran wide and maintained his line, it’s up to JR to make the clean pass which he didn’t do, he initiated a tighter turn but couldn’t maintain that and went wide and blootered Toprak, I can’t for the life of me see how I’m a million years anyone could say hat Toprak should have given more room.
If you were JR might :banana-dance:
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They both bolloxed that corner up, 6 of one, half a dozen of t'other, shit happens
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JR didn’t bill ox the corner up, he bolloxed the pass. I’d say racing incident but when the idiot is trying to blame Toprak and all his minions are saying the same.
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I can see them 2 pratting about all year and letting Bautista clear off.
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Clear as day. Toprak runs out to the kerb and literally maintains that position until the collision. JR tried to pass and runs out wide towards the kerb at an angle, this angle towards the kerb that he has created is the reason why his wheel was ahead at the point of the collision, that and the pace he was carrying. How any cunt can look at this and not see this is beyond me.

For anyone to say Toprak came back across into JR is ludicrous. This is exactly what Rea is saying, he’s also saying that he had track position because his wheel was ahead, I mean wtf? You literally cut him off and left him nowhere to go. JR fucked up here big time, like Toprak says he was on the gas too much to make the pass that he’s ran wide himself, all he had to do was maintain a tighter line and he would have been fine but he couldn’t do that because he was carrying too much speed at that time.

JR is a prick!

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