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[Count Steer]

Meanwhile, UNESCO are concerned that the UK will allow women and children refugees from Ukraine to be lodged with single men.

What a sad fucking country the UK must appear to be to the rest of the world.

It doesn't even look good from inside it.

[slowsider]

Meanwhile, UNESCO are concerned that the UK will allow women and children refugees from Ukraine to be lodged with single men.

What a sad fucking country the UK must appear to be to the rest of the world.

UNESCO saying that doesn't mean the UK is doing that, just maybe the UK is checking and that's why it's taking such an unacceptably long time to grant visas.

Yep, that's what it'll be alright: due diligence, Boris is well known for his attention to detail.

[Noggin]

It makes perfect sense, they're hoping that once word gets out that as soon as you land in blighty you'll be shipped to Rwanda that the number of people trying to come here will drop, they're not really expecting to send 1000's over there.

Or that's my take on it anyway.

Yup, that does make sense.

I am so glad I found somewhere else to live. Hopefully by the time that LePenn changes this country to be like the UK (France is generally 20 odd years behind!) I'll be too old to notice

Your snow-white eyrie is not exactly one of the banlieues, is it?

No. But if she gets in it affects everyone in the country

[slowsider]

Yup, that does make sense.

I am so glad I found somewhere else to live. Hopefully by the time that LePenn changes this country to be like the UK (France is generally 20 odd years behind!) I'll be too old to notice

Your snow-white eyrie is not exactly one of the banlieues, is it?

No. But if she gets in it affects everyone in the country

But prolly some more than others. She won't be sending you back to the bled, habibti.

[Noggin]

Your snow-white eyrie is not exactly one of the banlieues, is it?

No. But if she gets in it affects everyone in the country

But prolly some more than others. She won't be sending you back to the bled, habibti.

I have no interest in being sent back to the UK either!!! Sadly I can't apply for nationality until late October, and it could take 2+ years to be granted. But if she gets in, there's a good chance I won't get it

Thank fck for the Irish passport - might not help me stay in France but at least I shouldn't have to go back to the UK!!!

[Asian Boss]

As long as the buggers are Brexited away who cares where they end up? Rwanda's probably too good for them.

[Count Steer]

Sending refugees to Rwanda has been tried before - by Israel.

The reasons it was stopped do not make happy reading. Sending people into the hands of traffickers, refugees penniless on Rwandan streets etc etc. It appears that the money was happily accepted but the obligations weren't. Within a short space of time it was estimated that ~18 actually remained there.

Treating refugees like pieces in a game of Snakes and Ladders is pretty shameful.

[Mr Moofo]

You do realise all of this is a huge ruse to take the heat of Boris and “Partygate”? The timing of the announcement is no coincidence- but it will allow everyone to froth at the mouth for a few weeks - until the government admit it is unworkable. Priti Patel is involved so absolutely nothing is going to happen.
What will happen in the next few days is Boris will get 3-4 more Covid fines - maybe even up to 10,000 GBP - but it will all go unnoticed.
You are all being played

[irie]

So what?

The EU is not applying its own laws.

The EU law is about people seeking asylum in the EU, these people aren't seeking asylum in the EU.

https://righttoremain.org.uk/the-new-as ... ity-rules/

The UK government has introduced new regulations under which they can rule that an asylum claim is inadmissible. This means the Home Office does not have to consider the claim in the UK if they rule that another country – a “safe third country” – should in fact be responsible for your asylum claim.

Which EU point of entry country(ies) could be considered to not be a "safe third country"?

[DefTrap]

Lolz that shit UK policy is all the EU's fault.

It never ends. We're out, get over it.

[irie]

Lolz that shit UK policy is all the EU's fault.

It never ends. We're out, get over it.

Please tell @JamJar that. Thanks.

[demographic]

Gov just throwing dead cats all over the shop in the hope that Partygate and the fallout from Brexit hemorrhaging money out of the country will go away.

[Mr Moofo]

Gov just throwing dead cats all over the shop in the hope that Partygate and the fallout from Brexit hemorrhaging money out of the country will go away.

See post 4 above

[irie]

Gov just throwing dead cats all over the shop in the hope that Partygate and the fallout from Brexit hemorrhaging money out of the country will go away.

Lolz that shit UK policy is all the EU's fault.

It never ends. We're out, get over it.

Please tell @demographic that. Thanks.

[demographic]

Gov just throwing dead cats all over the shop in the hope that Partygate and the fallout from Brexit hemorrhaging money out of the country will go away.

Lolz that shit UK policy is all the EU's fault.

It never ends. We're out, get over it.

Please tell @demographic that. Thanks.

There are controls coming caused by Brexit that haven't even started yet, we're not even fully out yet and already it's a massive financial fuckup.
Name some wins?

Oh yeah... sovereignty...

[irie]

Gov just throwing dead cats all over the shop in the hope that Partygate and the fallout from Brexit hemorrhaging money out of the country will go away.

Lolz that shit UK policy is all the EU's fault.

It never ends. We're out, get over it.

Please tell @demographic that. Thanks.

There are controls coming caused by Brexit that haven't even started yet, we're not even fully out yet and already it's a massive financial fuckup.
Name some wins?

Oh yeah... sovereignty...

Would you please compare in numerical terms the UK's current financial situation with what it would now have been had the UK remained in the EU.

Thanks.

[JamJar]

So what?

The EU is not applying its own laws.

The EU law is about people seeking asylum in the EU, these people aren't seeking asylum in the EU.

https://righttoremain.org.uk/the-new-as ... ity-rules/

The UK government has introduced new regulations under which they can rule that an asylum claim is inadmissible. This means the Home Office does not have to consider the claim in the UK if they rule that another country – a “safe third country” – should in fact be responsible for your asylum claim.

Which EU point of entry country(ies) could be considered to not be a "safe third country"?

You said the EU was not enforcing and EU law and to prove your point you make reference to a UK regulation ???

[Asian Boss]

Please tell @demographic that. Thanks.

There are controls coming caused by Brexit that haven't even started yet, we're not even fully out yet and already it's a massive financial fuckup.
Name some wins?

Oh yeah... sovereignty...

Would you please compare in numerical terms the UK's current financial situation with what it would now have been had the UK remained in the EU.

Thanks.

Sounds like no Brexit wins to me.

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[Hoonercat]

The EU law is about people seeking asylum in the EU, these people aren't seeking asylum in the EU.

https://righttoremain.org.uk/the-new-as ... ity-rules/

The UK government has introduced new regulations under which they can rule that an asylum claim is inadmissible. This means the Home Office does not have to consider the claim in the UK if they rule that another country – a “safe third country” – should in fact be responsible for your asylum claim.

Which EU point of entry country(ies) could be considered to not be a "safe third country"?

You said the EU was not enforcing and EU law and to prove your point you make reference to a UK regulation ???

Enforcement is the job of individual countries, not the EU. The Dublin Regulation can only be applied to those who have entered the EU legally, those at Calais are aware of this so entered illegally which means neither France nor the UK can return them to the first safe country, because there is no evidence of where they should be returned to (if it were that simple, there'd be no need for Rwanda).
While the UK was in the EU, applications for asylum in the UK could be made from within the EU. That process became much more difficult after Brexit (along with legislation 'allowing' the UK to send them back to the first safe country), hence why the numbers making the crossing to Dover exploded after Brexit.
The increase in numbers is a direct result of Brexit. The legislation brought in is unworkable, just another headline grabber to give the impression of doing something about the problem. Instead of giving the Home Office the resources it needs to deal with this self-made problem, Boris will make it someone else's problem.

[Pirahna]

While the UK was in the EU, applications for asylum in the UK could be made from within the EU. That process became much more difficult after Brexit (along with legislation 'allowing' the UK to send them back to the first safe country), hence why the numbers making the crossing to Dover exploded after Brexit.

Just me being thick, I don't understand why the numbers increased after Brexit?