It doesn't even look good from inside it.
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Doubt is not a pleasant condition.
But certainty is an absurd one.
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But certainty is an absurd one.
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Yep, that's what it'll be alright: due diligence, Boris is well known for his attention to detail.
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No. But if she gets in it affects everyone in the countryslowsider wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:21 amYour snow-white eyrie is not exactly one of the banlieues, is it?Noggin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:11 amYup, that does make sense.MrLongbeard wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:01 am
It makes perfect sense, they're hoping that once word gets out that as soon as you land in blighty you'll be shipped to Rwanda that the number of people trying to come here will drop, they're not really expecting to send 1000's over there.
Or that's my take on it anyway.
I am so glad I found somewhere else to live. Hopefully by the time that LePenn changes this country to be like the UK (France is generally 20 odd years behind!) I'll be too old to notice
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But prolly some more than others. She won't be sending you back to the bled, habibti.
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I have no interest in being sent back to the UK either!!! Sadly I can't apply for nationality until late October, and it could take 2+ years to be granted. But if she gets in, there's a good chance I won't get it
Thank fck for the Irish passport - might not help me stay in France but at least I shouldn't have to go back to the UK!!!
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As long as the buggers are Brexited away who cares where they end up? Rwanda's probably too good for them.
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Sending refugees to Rwanda has been tried before - by Israel.
The reasons it was stopped do not make happy reading. Sending people into the hands of traffickers, refugees penniless on Rwandan streets etc etc. It appears that the money was happily accepted but the obligations weren't. Within a short space of time it was estimated that ~18 actually remained there.
Treating refugees like pieces in a game of Snakes and Ladders is pretty shameful.
The reasons it was stopped do not make happy reading. Sending people into the hands of traffickers, refugees penniless on Rwandan streets etc etc. It appears that the money was happily accepted but the obligations weren't. Within a short space of time it was estimated that ~18 actually remained there.
Treating refugees like pieces in a game of Snakes and Ladders is pretty shameful.
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But certainty is an absurd one.
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You do realise all of this is a huge ruse to take the heat of Boris and “Partygate”? The timing of the announcement is no coincidence- but it will allow everyone to froth at the mouth for a few weeks - until the government admit it is unworkable. Priti Patel is involved so absolutely nothing is going to happen.
What will happen in the next few days is Boris will get 3-4 more Covid fines - maybe even up to 10,000 GBP - but it will all go unnoticed.
You are all being played
What will happen in the next few days is Boris will get 3-4 more Covid fines - maybe even up to 10,000 GBP - but it will all go unnoticed.
You are all being played
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https://righttoremain.org.uk/the-new-as ... ity-rules/
Which EU point of entry country(ies) could be considered to not be a "safe third country"?The UK government has introduced new regulations under which they can rule that an asylum claim is inadmissible. This means the Home Office does not have to consider the claim in the UK if they rule that another country – a “safe third country” – should in fact be responsible for your asylum claim.
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Lolz that shit UK policy is all the EU's fault.
It never ends. We're out, get over it.
It never ends. We're out, get over it.
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Please tell @JamJar that. Thanks.
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Gov just throwing dead cats all over the shop in the hope that Partygate and the fallout from Brexit hemorrhaging money out of the country will go away.
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See post 4 abovedemographic wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:20 pm Gov just throwing dead cats all over the shop in the hope that Partygate and the fallout from Brexit hemorrhaging money out of the country will go away.
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demographic wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:20 pm Gov just throwing dead cats all over the shop in the hope that Partygate and the fallout from Brexit hemorrhaging money out of the country will go away.
Please tell @demographic that. Thanks.
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There are controls coming caused by Brexit that haven't even started yet, we're not even fully out yet and already it's a massive financial fuckup.irie wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:33 pmdemographic wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:20 pm Gov just throwing dead cats all over the shop in the hope that Partygate and the fallout from Brexit hemorrhaging money out of the country will go away.Please tell @demographic that. Thanks.
Name some wins?
Oh yeah... sovereignty...
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Would you please compare in numerical terms the UK's current financial situation with what it would now have been had the UK remained in the EU.demographic wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:04 pmThere are controls coming caused by Brexit that haven't even started yet, we're not even fully out yet and already it's a massive financial fuckup.irie wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:33 pmdemographic wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:20 pm Gov just throwing dead cats all over the shop in the hope that Partygate and the fallout from Brexit hemorrhaging money out of the country will go away.Please tell @demographic that. Thanks.
Name some wins?
Oh yeah... sovereignty...
Thanks.
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You said the EU was not enforcing and EU law and to prove your point you make reference to a UK regulation ???irie wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:00 pmhttps://righttoremain.org.uk/the-new-as ... ity-rules/
Which EU point of entry country(ies) could be considered to not be a "safe third country"?The UK government has introduced new regulations under which they can rule that an asylum claim is inadmissible. This means the Home Office does not have to consider the claim in the UK if they rule that another country – a “safe third country” – should in fact be responsible for your asylum claim.
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Sounds like no Brexit wins to me.irie wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:34 pmWould you please compare in numerical terms the UK's current financial situation with what it would now have been had the UK remained in the EU.demographic wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:04 pmThere are controls coming caused by Brexit that haven't even started yet, we're not even fully out yet and already it's a massive financial fuckup.
Name some wins?
Oh yeah... sovereignty...
Thanks.
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Enforcement is the job of individual countries, not the EU. The Dublin Regulation can only be applied to those who have entered the EU legally, those at Calais are aware of this so entered illegally which means neither France nor the UK can return them to the first safe country, because there is no evidence of where they should be returned to (if it were that simple, there'd be no need for Rwanda).JamJar wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:32 pmYou said the EU was not enforcing and EU law and to prove your point you make reference to a UK regulation ???irie wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:00 pmhttps://righttoremain.org.uk/the-new-as ... ity-rules/
Which EU point of entry country(ies) could be considered to not be a "safe third country"?The UK government has introduced new regulations under which they can rule that an asylum claim is inadmissible. This means the Home Office does not have to consider the claim in the UK if they rule that another country – a “safe third country” – should in fact be responsible for your asylum claim.
While the UK was in the EU, applications for asylum in the UK could be made from within the EU. That process became much more difficult after Brexit (along with legislation 'allowing' the UK to send them back to the first safe country), hence why the numbers making the crossing to Dover exploded after Brexit.
The increase in numbers is a direct result of Brexit. The legislation brought in is unworkable, just another headline grabber to give the impression of doing something about the problem. Instead of giving the Home Office the resources it needs to deal with this self-made problem, Boris will make it someone else's problem.
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Just me being thick, I don't understand why the numbers increased after Brexit?Hoonercat wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 8:49 am While the UK was in the EU, applications for asylum in the UK could be made from within the EU. That process became much more difficult after Brexit (along with legislation 'allowing' the UK to send them back to the first safe country), hence why the numbers making the crossing to Dover exploded after Brexit.