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This must be one of the most idiotic ideas the tories have come up with yet and will do nothing to combat the people smugglers.
In the unlikely event that any asylum seeker is successful, under this new scheme, I presume that the UK will then fly the individual back to UK. But what of the unsuccessful candidates? Are they told to make their own way home or are they to be transported elsewhere? And where exactly is elsewhere?
If the UK were to desist on selling weapons that destabilise countries and their economies in the first place it would help
The tories piling idiocy on stupidity on incompetence.
Edit: Has anyone even asked if Rwanda are prepared to accept an unknown number of disaffected, homeless and penniless young men?
In the unlikely event that any asylum seeker is successful, under this new scheme, I presume that the UK will then fly the individual back to UK. But what of the unsuccessful candidates? Are they told to make their own way home or are they to be transported elsewhere? And where exactly is elsewhere?
If the UK were to desist on selling weapons that destabilise countries and their economies in the first place it would help
The tories piling idiocy on stupidity on incompetence.
Edit: Has anyone even asked if Rwanda are prepared to accept an unknown number of disaffected, homeless and penniless young men?
Blundering about trying not to make too much of a hash of things.
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If a person is successful in their application they are give Rwandan residency and are not given UK asylum! Rwanda are being paid £120 million for this initial trial and if it "works" they will be paid millions more to continue.Lutin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:42 am This must be one of the most idiotic ideas the tories have come up with yet and will do nothing to combat the people smugglers.
In the unlikely event that any asylum seeker is successful, under this new scheme, I presume that the UK will then fly the individual back to UK. But what of the unsuccessful candidates? Are they told to make their own way home or are they to be transported elsewhere? And where exactly is elsewhere?
If the UK were to desist on selling weapons that destabilise countries and their economies in the first place it would help
The tories piling idiocy on stupidity on incompetence.
Edit: Has anyone even asked if Rwanda are prepared to accept an unknown number of disaffected, homeless and penniless young men?
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This doesn't make sense. Apart from the bizarre idea of accepting refugees only to 'ship them on', surely this will be far more expensive that just accepting the refugees in the UK?
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It makes perfect sense, they're hoping that once word gets out that as soon as you land in blighty you'll be shipped to Rwanda that the number of people trying to come here will drop, they're not really expecting to send 1000's over there.
Or that's my take on it anyway.
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Yup, that does make sense.MrLongbeard wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:01 amIt makes perfect sense, they're hoping that once word gets out that as soon as you land in blighty you'll be shipped to Rwanda that the number of people trying to come here will drop, they're not really expecting to send 1000's over there.
Or that's my take on it anyway.
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It's not like Rwanda has ever had issues with minority ethnic groups...JamJar wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:53 amIf a person is successful in their application they are give Rwandan residency and are not given UK asylum! Rwanda are being paid £120 million for this initial trial and if it "works" they will be paid millions more to continue.Lutin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:42 am This must be one of the most idiotic ideas the tories have come up with yet and will do nothing to combat the people smugglers.
In the unlikely event that any asylum seeker is successful, under this new scheme, I presume that the UK will then fly the individual back to UK. But what of the unsuccessful candidates? Are they told to make their own way home or are they to be transported elsewhere? And where exactly is elsewhere?
If the UK were to desist on selling weapons that destabilise countries and their economies in the first place it would help
The tories piling idiocy on stupidity on incompetence.
Edit: Has anyone even asked if Rwanda are prepared to accept an unknown number of disaffected, homeless and penniless young men?
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Your snow-white eyrie is not exactly one of the banlieues, is it?Noggin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:11 amYup, that does make sense.MrLongbeard wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:01 amIt makes perfect sense, they're hoping that once word gets out that as soon as you land in blighty you'll be shipped to Rwanda that the number of people trying to come here will drop, they're not really expecting to send 1000's over there.
Or that's my take on it anyway.
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Are we sure this isn't an April Fools - it's so dark it's almost funny. Like everything this government does, it constructs a scheme that will cost tens of millions to set up and is destined to fail (because with threats you actually have to be prepared to go through with it) and yet one that appeals to the cruel, immigrant-hating masses. Well, "those types that cross in small boats" anyway, and we know who those are. Taking send-the-buggers-home to new depths. They haven't really thought this through - isn't there anywhere any further they could send them? South Pole? Down a mine shaft?MrLongbeard wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:01 am
It makes perfect sense, they're hoping that once word gets out that as soon as you land in blighty you'll be shipped to Rwanda that the number of people trying to come here will drop, they're not really expecting to send 1000's over there.
Or that's my take on it anyway.
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Plus a few quid to cover costs back here?
Presumably someone has done some sums to show this is cheaper.
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With this current Government I will assume that cost is irrelevant and that they will have picked personal contacts to benefit from this financially.
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£120M for even a 1000 makes it a bargain ... Err ... Doesn't it? ??? (And that's not including ongoing costs and new costs incurred - border staff, flights, support staff, legal, etc)MrLongbeard wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:01 am they're hoping that once word gets out that as soon as you land in blighty you'll be shipped to Rwanda that the number of people trying to come here will drop, they're not really expecting to send 1000's over there.
Have to wonder what current costs actually are?
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To be honest and up front, and only replying as you quoted me, I really don't care and I'm not going to put any effort into finding anything about it out.Horse wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:37 am£120M for even a 1000 makes it a bargain ... Err ... Doesn't it? ??? (And that's not including ongoing costs and new costs incurred - border staff, flights, support staff, legal, etc)MrLongbeard wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:01 am they're hoping that once word gets out that as soon as you land in blighty you'll be shipped to Rwanda that the number of people trying to come here will drop, they're not really expecting to send 1000's over there.
Have to wonder what current costs actually are?
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Or back to France, or wherever they first entered the EU, where according to EU law (the Dublin Regulation) they should have claimed asylum long before they travelled "in small boats"? Now there's a novel idea. Not.DefTrap wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:23 amAre we sure this isn't an April Fools - it's so dark it's almost funny. Like everything this government does, it constructs a scheme that will cost tens of millions to set up and is destined to fail (because with threats you actually have to be prepared to go through with it) and yet one that appeals to the cruel, immigrant-hating masses. Well, "those types that cross in small boats" anyway, and we know who those are. Taking send-the-buggers-home to new depths. They haven't really thought this through - isn't there anywhere any further they could send them? South Pole? Down a mine shaft?MrLongbeard wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:01 am
It makes perfect sense, they're hoping that once word gets out that as soon as you land in blighty you'll be shipped to Rwanda that the number of people trying to come here will drop, they're not really expecting to send 1000's over there.
Or that's my take on it anyway.
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We left the EU.irie wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 12:22 pmOr back to France, or wherever they first entered the EU, where according to EU law (the Dublin Regulation) they should have claimed asylum before they travelled "in small boats"? Now there's a novel idea. Not.DefTrap wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:23 amAre we sure this isn't an April Fools - it's so dark it's almost funny. Like everything this government does, it constructs a scheme that will cost tens of millions to set up and is destined to fail (because with threats you actually have to be prepared to go through with it) and yet one that appeals to the cruel, immigrant-hating masses. Well, "those types that cross in small boats" anyway, and we know who those are. Taking send-the-buggers-home to new depths. They haven't really thought this through - isn't there anywhere any further they could send them? South Pole? Down a mine shaft?MrLongbeard wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:01 am
It makes perfect sense, they're hoping that once word gets out that as soon as you land in blighty you'll be shipped to Rwanda that the number of people trying to come here will drop, they're not really expecting to send 1000's over there.
Or that's my take on it anyway.
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So what?JamJar wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 12:29 pmWe left the EU.irie wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 12:22 pmOr back to France, or wherever they first entered the EU, where according to EU law (the Dublin Regulation) they should have claimed asylum before they travelled "in small boats"? Now there's a novel idea. Not.DefTrap wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:23 am
Are we sure this isn't an April Fools - it's so dark it's almost funny. Like everything this government does, it constructs a scheme that will cost tens of millions to set up and is destined to fail (because with threats you actually have to be prepared to go through with it) and yet one that appeals to the cruel, immigrant-hating masses. Well, "those types that cross in small boats" anyway, and we know who those are. Taking send-the-buggers-home to new depths. They haven't really thought this through - isn't there anywhere any further they could send them? South Pole? Down a mine shaft?
The EU is not applying its own laws.
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The EU law is about people seeking asylum in the EU, these people aren't seeking asylum in the EU.
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According to the BBC report, the facility in Rwanda has space for around 100 people and will be able to process up to 500 per year. An earlier report gave an estimate of £1.2 billion per year should the scheme go ahead in fullHorse wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:37 am£120M for even a 1000 makes it a bargain ... Err ... Doesn't it? ??? (And that's not including ongoing costs and new costs incurred - border staff, flights, support staff, legal, etc)MrLongbeard wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:01 am they're hoping that once word gets out that as soon as you land in blighty you'll be shipped to Rwanda that the number of people trying to come here will drop, they're not really expecting to send 1000's over there.
Have to wonder what current costs actually are?
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Meanwhile, UNESCO are concerned that the UK will allow women and children refugees from Ukraine to be lodged with single men.
What a sad fucking country the UK must appear to be to the rest of the world.
What a sad fucking country the UK must appear to be to the rest of the world.
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UNESCO saying that doesn't mean the UK is doing that, just maybe the UK is checking and that's why it's taking such an unacceptably long time to grant visas.