Russell Brand

[Horse]

You are missing the point and it's not even about you other than you are a single figure in a population of millions, depending on how your demographic is sliced.

Which videos did you not see during the election cycle?

Is that a trick question? How do you know what you didn't see?

Whoever it was posted about videos being censored, hidden, whatever.

By searching for them, i found exactly those videos - the poster acknowledged they were the ones.

So I did see them. So it was about me - and someone else with - I'm guessing - a very different search history to mine.

And, as I said at the time, that was pretty rubbish 'censorship' if Google own YouTube! A conspiracy theory very quickly debunked. As you can imagine, the other person swiftly withdrew his accusations. Not.

[Screwdriver]

Not being a party to whatever spat you refer to I can't help any further.

You appear keen to cling onto the idea that censorship is a simple on/off switch, I'm happy for you to crack on. Ignorance is bliss.

[Horse]

Not being a party to whatever spat you refer to I can't help any further.

You appear keen to cling onto the idea that censorship is a simple on/off switch, I'm happy for you to crack on. Ignorance is bliss.

You think wrong about how I think.

On/off is different to inconsistent.

[Yambo]

All fair points. Apart from:
- I did the same keyword searches on YouTube and Google. Yt didn't find it for me, Google did.

You might want to use a different search engine but look up who owns YouTube.

[Screwdriver]

Big tech is little more than the propaganda machine for extreme left wing views. You may not have heard of Sydney Watson before, she is a rare right wing influencer with interesting views on this gender/transgender nonsense the powers that be are determined to wind everybody up about.

It is rare for anyone who isn't hard left to be able to "make it" on YouTube/Google/Twitter/Insta etc. since they are effectively nipped in the bud with any number of censoring tools. This is the latest example: if we don't like you, we will delete your source of income.



Note: Patreon is not a social media platform, it's just a finance middleman. You like a person on YouTube, you can support them on Patreon. So even if Google can't hide you and YouTube shadow ban fails to reduce your popularity, they can still just cut your funding if you become too popular.

That's a chilling statement, banned for being too popular...

[DefTrap]

Explain why big tech is interested in left wing politics and trendy gender issues? What's in it for them?

[Horse]

All fair points. Apart from:
- I did the same keyword searches on YouTube and Google. Yt didn't find it for me, Google did.

You might want to use a different search engine but look up who owns YouTube.

That's the point: same owner, different results. If 'the company' is censoring or banning, surely you would expect it to be consistent?

[Count Steer]

Explain why big tech is interested in left wing politics and trendy gender issues? What's in it for them?

It's them Marxist-Leninist-transsexual-Trot billionaires innit? Desperate to secure for the workers by hand or by brain the full fruits of their industry and the most equitable distribution thereof, they selflessly work to elevate the horny-handed sons of toil.

(I suspect 'extreme left wing' means anywhere left of Screwdriver - which seems to include quite a lot of the global population).

[Mr. Dazzle]

I do enjoy the idea that social media has any particular leaning to the left or right and is part of some grand plan.

I believe people may by over thinking the motives here.

[Screwdriver]

Explain why big tech is interested in left wing politics and trendy gender issues? What's in it for them?

That is an excellent question. It is something I do quite struggle with. I **think** it is a displacement activity, the ultimate “dead cat” strategy. Keep the plebs wound up about BLM/LGBTQUERTIOUP/domestic terrorism/Transgenderism etc. while removing all of the personal freedoms we currently enjoy until one day, we wake up in 1984.

[Screwdriver]

It's them Marxist-Leninist-transsexual-Trot billionaires innit? Desperate to secure for the workers by hand or by brain the full fruits of their industry and the most equitable distribution thereof, they selflessly work to elevate the horny-handed sons of toil.

(I suspect 'extreme left wing' means anywhere left of Screwdriver - which seems to include quite a lot of the global population).

Well I would be interested to know where “normal” people stand on the gender issue. Can a man just say “I’m a woman” and then IN LAW have to be treated as such? Should this hipster woke movement be allowed to promote their sexual ideology to kindergarten kids? Should children be fed puberty blockers and surgically mutilated before they are even of age?

In my mind that is an absurdity too far and if that makes me “right wing” I am guilty as charged.

[Count Steer]

It's them Marxist-Leninist-transsexual-Trot billionaires innit? Desperate to secure for the workers by hand or by brain the full fruits of their industry and the most equitable distribution thereof, they selflessly work to elevate the horny-handed sons of toil.

(I suspect 'extreme left wing' means anywhere left of Screwdriver - which seems to include quite a lot of the global population).

Well I would be interested to know where “normal” people stand on the gender issue. Can a man just say “I’m a woman” and then IN LAW have to be treated as such? Should this hipster woke movement be allowed to promote their sexual ideology to kindergarten kids? Should children be fed puberty blockers and surgically mutilated before they are even of age?

In my mind that is an absurdity too far and if that makes me “right wing” I am guilty as charged.

A rather different discussion from:

'Big tech is little more than the propaganda machine for extreme left wing views.'

You always pick up on an interesting issue then completely overbake it. Viruses are 'weaponised', social media owners are 'ultra-left propagandists', Biden is 'mafia' etc. It doesn't encourage debate - who is going to get involved in a discussion with someone that appears to lack any sense of balance?

[Screwdriver]

A rather different discussion from:

'Big tech is little more than the propaganda machine for extreme left wing views.'

You always pick up on an interesting issue then completely overbake it. Viruses are 'weaponised', social media owners are 'ultra-left propagandists', Biden is 'mafia' etc. It doesn't encourage debate - who is going to get involved in a discussion with someone that appears to lack any sense of balance?

OK thanks, I'll have a think about that. Currently I feel as if I should provide a counterweight, extreme right wing view (actually not that extreme!) to balance out the extreme left wing bias of the mainstream media and "westernised" economies. Interestingly, Vladimir Putin is using the radical agenda to justify his actions in Ukraine by suggesting "this is what the decadent west wants to do to our mother country" etc.

We digress. While it was a tongue in cheek comment, a bat virus has been weaponised, that is exactly what "gain of function research" means. Take an innocuous virus which has been happily dedicated to its host species for hundreds of thousands, if not millions of years and deliberately alter its genetic code so that it will infect humans. That's not even with my tinfoil hat on, that is what these labs are doing. They say it's so that they/we can study the effect "just in case" there's "an accident". Coincidentally a virus suddenly does take the leap from bats to humans, coincidentally in a very specific area exactly where such research takes place, coincidentally after a series of previous viruses (H2N2, H3N2, Bird Flu, Swine Flu, SARS) occur before we hit the jackpot with SARS-CoV-2.

Mainstream media and big tech you can make your own mind up about because we can all see what they are doing. Does anyone here really think trangenderism is a big issue and one that should be taught in primary schools? Were all of those BLM riots really "mostly peaceful"? Is Donald Trump so dangerous he should be silenced?

The Biden mafia is as succinct a name for it as I can think of. The level of corruption in the USA is outrageous and the Biden "family" lets say have their fingers in the pie in Ukraine, Russia and China. Is that just another coincidence? Hunter Biden was on the board of directors at Burisma (Ukraine oil) while his dad then V.P. was withholding a loan guarantee unless a specific investigator was fired (Viktor Shokin). By sheer coincidence Shokin was allegedly investigating Burisma for corruption...

How does this affect you and me? Well, try to see through the cartoon Bond villain disguise and remember this guy represents ALL THE MONEY iN THE WORLD.

[Count Steer]

A rather different discussion from:

'Big tech is little more than the propaganda machine for extreme left wing views.'

You always pick up on an interesting issue then completely overbake it. Viruses are 'weaponised', social media owners are 'ultra-left propagandists', Biden is 'mafia' etc. It doesn't encourage debate - who is going to get involved in a discussion with someone that appears to lack any sense of balance?

OK thanks, I'll have a think about that. Currently I feel as if I should provide a counterweight, extreme right wing view (actually not that extreme!) to balance out the extreme left wing bias of the mainstream media and "westernised" economies. Interestingly, Vladimir Putin is using the radical agenda to justify his actions in Ukraine by suggesting "this is what the decadent west wants to do to our mother country" etc.

We digress. While it was a tongue in cheek comment, a bat virus has been weaponised, that is exactly what "gain of function research" means. Take an innocuous virus which has been happily dedicated to its host species for hundreds of thousands, if not millions of years and deliberately alter its genetic code so that it will infect humans. That's not even with my tinfoil hat on, that is what these labs are doing. They say it's so that they/we can study the effect "just in case" there's "an accident". Coincidentally a virus suddenly does take the leap from bats to humans, coincidentally in a very specific area exactly where such research takes place, coincidentally after a series of previous viruses (H2N2, H3N2, Bird Flu, Swine Flu, SARS) occur before we hit the jackpot with SARS-CoV-2.

Mainstream media and big tech you can make your own mind up about because we can all see what they are doing. Does anyone here really think trangenderism is a big issue and one that should be taught in primary schools? Were all of those BLM riots really "mostly peaceful"? Is Donald Trump so dangerous he should be silenced?

The Biden mafia is as succinct a name for it as I can think of. The level of corruption in the USA is outrageous and the Biden "family" lets say have their fingers in the pie in Ukraine, Russia and China. Is that just another coincidence? Hunter Biden was on the board of directors at Burisma (Ukraine oil) while his dad then V.P. was withholding a loan guarantee unless a specific investigator was fired (Viktor Shokin). By sheer coincidence Shokin was allegedly investigating Burisma for corruption...

How does this affect you and me? Well, try to see through the cartoon Bond villain disguise and remember this guy represents ALL THE MONEY iN THE WORLD.

So many topics, so little time

I'll park the virus stuff for now other than ask why the USA would be developing weapons in China?

American politics is and always has been crooked. Even Latter Day Saint JFK had his election bought for him by his dodgy father. You only win if you play the game, have the money and/or promise it to your backers. No change there then.

Gender issues. I don't believe 'the man in the street' gives a toss but is force fed 'issues' by those in the media/entertainment industry that have a vested interest* and the organisation(s) to exploit it. Man in street gets fed up and you get click-bait bonanzas on the likes of FB etc etc, which is good business for them. Nothing like a bit of polarisation to get clicks. On the list of things that really matter, who sticks what into who really rates about 93rd. Unfortunately some organisations react as if social media is the voice of the people. Yes, universities, I'm looking at you.

Meh. The rich get richer, we get less bread and circuses, but we get Netflix and Facebook and Amazon instead. The world is - watcha gonna do? The sun is out, spring is sprung, I think I'll stick my fingers in my ears and go 'lalalala, not listening' today.



*An alien tapping into our TV would assume that heterosexual was a minority. One of our on-line newspapers even conflates Ukraine with their own, incessant gender mission.

[Screwdriver]

So many topics, so little time

I'll park the virus stuff for now other than ask why the USA would be developing weapons in China?

There is "so much" and so many "coincidences" that it is difficult to dig out the truth so I just go with the overwhelming preponderance of evidence and nail my colours to the mast. That is why it can be difficult to pin down a "fact" when even an open and shut case of obvious fraud as evidenced by the content in Hunter Bidens laptop is so blatantly ignored. Until the truth sort of seeps out between the cracks and finally emerges only a couple of years too late...

As for the virus stuff, I don't know why the USA sponsors virus "research" in China I assume because it is so damned dangerous, China have all the bats and the CCP are a lot less concerned about public safety. Dunno why they were also doing the same thing in Ukraine either...

Fact is they were and they're not shy about it either, I linked to one of the fed websites earlier. 'Tis all true.

[mangocrazy]

Currently I feel as if I should provide a counterweight, extreme right wing view (actually not that extreme!) to balance out the extreme left wing bias of the mainstream media and "westernised" economies.

I'm not getting involved in all the other conspiracy static, but if you honestly believe that the UK mainstream media has an 'extreme left wing bias' then I have some beachfront property in Sheffield you may be interested in.

Are you honestly trying to tell me that the Sun, the Daily Mail, the Daily Express, the Telegraph, the Evening Standard, Metro, the Times and the Financial Times are 'extreme left wing'? Most, if not all, of them are owned by rich non-doms who maintain an iron grip on the right-wing content they promote. Just look back at the vitriol they directed at Jeremy Corbyn, the only genuine left-wing leader of the Labour party since Michael Foot in the
early 80s.

Extreme left wing, my arse.

[DefTrap]

That is an excellent question. It is something I do quite struggle with. I **think** it is a displacement activity, the ultimate “dead cat” strategy. Keep the plebs wound up about BLM/LGBTQUERTIOUP/domestic terrorism/Transgenderism etc. while removing all of the personal freedoms we currently enjoy until one day, we wake up in 1984.

But I'm not wound up about it. BLM, transgender issues and domestic terrorism doesn't affect me the least bit and it hardly appears on my radar even if I solely engage with mainstream media. If it's there, my head is turning it off in the same way it that it might register a significant victory in the rugby but it can't be bothered to listen to who won.

And what personal freedoms have I lost exactly?

Russell Brand must be massively peeved that he's being used by the big tech overlords. You'd think he'd have something to say about that. It's interesting that "right wingers" think that their views are being suppressed. Is it maybe because extreme right wing views are often illegal and discriminatory maybe.

[Screwdriver]

I'm not getting involved in all the other conspiracy static, but if you honestly believe that the UK mainstream media has an 'extreme left wing bias' then I have some beachfront property in Sheffield you may be interested in.

Are you honestly trying to tell me that the Sun, the Daily Mail, the Daily Express, the Telegraph, the Evening Standard, Metro, the Times and the Financial Times are 'extreme left wing'? Most, if not all, of them are owned by rich non-doms who maintain an iron grip on the right-wing content they promote. Just look back at the vitriol they directed at Jeremy Corbyn, the only genuine left-wing leader of the Labour party since Michael Foot in the
early 80s.

Extreme left wing, my arse.

I don't know. That's what I am being told by being accused of extreme "right wing" views which I consider to be Conservative values (with a capital C). I believe that men are men and women are women. I believe in equality of opportunity not equality of outcome. I believe my attitude to religion would be called "atheist" by someone who believes there is a God but my core values are steadfastly Christian. I believe all men are created equal ("men" as in mankind, humanity, i.e. including women). I believe skin colour is no indication of either merit, intelligence or character other than by dint of a statistical anachronism which skews poverty towards "minority" races, especially in the developed western world.

You name a load of newspapers which I haven't seen since the digital revolution and I (personally) do not include in the mainstream media or big tech which are obsessed with identity politics and race baiting.

I think the political elites have blurred their lines much like the good old days of Windows vs. Mac and Labour/Tory, Dems/Republican are now effectively the same mechanism, the same operating system. Both as bad as each other. I actually happened to quite like Corbyn and though I might disagree with his political agenda, he appeared to be authentic in his determination to do what is best for the common man.

Then there is the Art of War. You do not tell the enemy (that's you and me by the way) what you really think. You tell them what you want them to think so you can get on with the business of amassing a personal fortune at the behest of your corporate masters. Divide and conquer.

If we're going down the road of "so you think" then I might say "so you think" Joe Biden really is a confirmed anti-racist (despite famously giving a eulogy at the funeral of his former friend, the Grand Wizard of the KKK). Perhaps you believe he thinks gender fluidity is so high on the agenda it should be taught at kindergarten and if a man says he is a woman, that's more valid than the underlying biology. I have news for you, he doesn't think anything. He reads what he is told to say off an autocue or cue card.

When the leader of the free world goes off script he threatens to send troops into Ukraine or depose Putin, he even hinted the USA would "respond in kind" to chemical warfare. The guy is a walking disaster and this has had a huge effect globally to the extent that the WEF are being overt about their intention to take power directly rather than the current system of "lobbying" western governments.

Meh, I don't know if I am left wing or right wing, I leave that to you to decide. I just know we are nearing the end game where capitalism falls apart because those with all the money and or power and or the control of the media clearly do not operate in the best interest of humanity but only for their own personal financial benefit and fuck the planet.

[mangocrazy]

I'm going to ignore most of what you've written as it's a statement of beliefs, and you're welcome to them and entitled to them. But I can't ignore this:

You name a load of newspapers which I haven't seen since the digital revolution and I (personally) do not include in the mainstream media or big tech which are obsessed with identity politics and race baiting.

I'm more than little dismayed that you can dismiss print media so lightly. They still are a major force in shaping opinion and (shock, horror) they do all have large online presence, so not entirely left behind by the 'digital revolution'. Just what, exactly, do you describe as 'mainstream media'? Are we talking BBC, ITV, Channel 4, Channel 5 etc? You'll notice that I'm referring to UK media here, so that at least everyone knows what we're talking about.

As for Joe Biden, the only interest I really have in him is that he's not Donald Trump, and I believe that is a Good Thing. I have no illusions about him being angelic, or even on their side, but I don't have the kind of hard-on for him that you do.

Personally I think that you are disappearing down a rabbit hole of your own making, but that's your choice so have at it.

[irie]

... those with all the money and or power and or the control of the media clearly do not operate in the best interest of humanity but only for their own personal financial benefit and fuck the planet.

Plus ça change.