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irie wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:55 am Try to change it down in a few small steps, could be a threshold level thingy.
That worked once, it's £142 now. I'll go back in a bit and see if I can do it again.
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:07 am
irie wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:55 am Try to change it down in a few small steps, could be a threshold level thingy.
That worked once, it's £142 now. I'll go back in a bit and see if I can do it again.
If it doesn't allow another change today then try another day.
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Count Steer wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:51 am
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:46 am Mines a smart meter, it uploads readings every day.
Mine aren't....and won't be while I have a choice. :thumbup:
I didn't have a choice. The electric meter's display failed so it had to be replaced.
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My meter just gave up reading anything at all.

I suppose I could have just left it and got "free" gas forever, but I suspect that particular trick wouldn't have been permanent and would have come back to bite me!
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Horse wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:06 pm
Count Steer wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:51 am
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:46 am Mines a smart meter, it uploads readings every day.
Mine aren't....and won't be while I have a choice. :thumbup:
I didn't have a choice. The electric meter's display failed so it had to be replaced.
Oh, they'll get everyone on them eventually - move house, meter fails, meter replacement programmes etc etc but I'll resist while I can. Not in an 'over my dead body' way, just passively. :D

Partly because I'm irritated by the 'it'll save me money' nonsense - no it won't it'll save the supplier money, so cut me in on the saving.
Partly because the idea of some spod in a call centre seeing consumption flat line when I'm on holibobs doesn't fill me with joy.
Partly because of the dog's breakfast they've made over systems compatibility from generation 1 meters to generation 2 meters.
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Count Steer wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:42 pm
Horse wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:06 pm
Count Steer wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:51 am

Mine aren't....and won't be while I have a choice. :thumbup:
I didn't have a choice. The electric meter's display failed so it had to be replaced.
Partly because I'm irritated by the 'it'll save me money' nonsense - no it won't it'll save the supplier money
Definitely saved me money. They messed about for so long that I quoted their service promise back to them and received compo :thumbup:

The display now sits on the kitchen worktop.

Unplugged, flat battery. I'm not paying (albeit a pittance) to charge it :wtf:
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Smart meters only save you money because it allows you to identify when you're using loads of juice - that's it. Normally it's obvious when you're using lots of juice though, you've got loads of lights on or are running 17 fan heaters :D

Mostly though, I like not having to go outside to the meter cupboard. I found that I was being consistently overcharged and then receiving 'corrections' because they overestimate how much power I'm using. I CBA to manually upload readings every week to stop them doing that, so at least the smart meter saves me that hassle.

I do wonder WTF everyone else uses so much power for though. We don't live like monks, we just have a few sensible habits (that is like I monk I suppose) and LED lights etc.
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Count Steer wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:42 pm Oh, they'll get everyone on them eventually - move house, meter fails, meter replacement programmes etc etc but I'll resist while I can. Not in an 'over my dead body' way, just passively. :D

Partly because I'm irritated by the 'it'll save me money' nonsense - no it won't it'll save the supplier money, so cut me in on the saving.
Partly because the idea of some spod in a call centre seeing consumption flat line when I'm on holibobs doesn't fill me with joy.
Partly because of the dog's breakfast they've made over systems compatibility from generation 1 meters to generation 2 meters.
Another one resisting here, for the same reasons.

Another reason is that once we are all on smart meters they will introduce peak time tariffs.
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Cousin Jack wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:18 pm
Count Steer wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:42 pm Oh, they'll get everyone on them eventually - move house, meter fails, meter replacement programmes etc etc but I'll resist while I can. Not in an 'over my dead body' way, just passively. :D

Partly because I'm irritated by the 'it'll save me money' nonsense - no it won't it'll save the supplier money, so cut me in on the saving.
Partly because the idea of some spod in a call centre seeing consumption flat line when I'm on holibobs doesn't fill me with joy.
Partly because of the dog's breakfast they've made over systems compatibility from generation 1 meters to generation 2 meters.
Another one resisting here, for the same reasons.

Another reason is that once we are all on smart meters they will introduce peak time tariffs.
Our lot let us choose 2 free hours a day. We put everything on then :)
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I try to convince Filly that rooms don't get lonely and scared when the lights are off.
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Yorick wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:13 pm
Cousin Jack wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:18 pm
Another reason is that once we are all on smart meters they will introduce peak time tariffs.
Our lot let us choose 2 free hours a day. We put everything on then :)
I really don't expect our lot to do that. More like whack up the price as soon as you need the heating on.
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:13 pm Smart meters only save you money because it allows you to identify when you're using loads of juice - that's it. Normally it's obvious when you're using lots of juice though, you've got loads of lights on or are running 17 fan heaters :D

Mostly though, I like not having to go outside to the meter cupboard. I found that I was being consistently overcharged and then receiving 'corrections' because they overestimate how much power I'm using. I CBA to manually upload readings every week to stop them doing that, so at least the smart meter saves me that hassle.

I do wonder WTF everyone else uses so much power for though. We don't live like monks, we just have a few sensible habits (that is like I monk I suppose) and LED lights etc.
We have a couple of wireless Efergy monitors in the kitchen. One displays solar panels output so we can watch generation kW in real-time and daily average, the other displays incoming power consumption so we can watch kW in real-time and daily average. No need to go outside.
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irie wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:56 pm
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:13 pm Smart meters only save you money because it allows you to identify when you're using loads of juice - that's it. Normally it's obvious when you're using lots of juice though, you've got loads of lights on or are running 17 fan heaters :D

Mostly though, I like not having to go outside to the meter cupboard. I found that I was being consistently overcharged and then receiving 'corrections' because they overestimate how much power I'm using. I CBA to manually upload readings every week to stop them doing that, so at least the smart meter saves me that hassle.

I do wonder WTF everyone else uses so much power for though. We don't live like monks, we just have a few sensible habits (that is like I monk I suppose) and LED lights etc.
We have a couple of wireless Efergy monitors in the kitchen. One displays solar panels output so we can watch generation kW in real-time and daily average, the other displays incoming power consumption so we can watch kW in real-time and daily average. No need to go outside.
A lot of people might think you need to get out more.
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slowsider wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:30 pm
irie wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:56 pm
No need to go outside.
A lot of people might think you need to get out more.
It’s cold out there.
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slowsider wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:30 pm A lot of people might think you need to get out more.
He does go out. He flies kites what can be difficult from the living room window.
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MiL got a smart meter display plugged in her kitchen. Tells her how many £ and P she has spent that day on gas/leccy, doesn't save any though.

Also....

When the price cap is raised on April fools day, does that mean our suppliers will increase their rates by same amount. 🤷🏻‍♂️
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Felix wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:44 pm
slowsider wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:30 pm A lot of people might think you need to get out more.
He does go out. He flies kites what can be difficult from the living room window.
Indeed, just a bit tricky given that I kitesurf on the sea which is 9+ miles from home. Also ride a mountain bike on the South Downs 6+ miles from home so doing that at home is equally tricky.

Unsurprisingly, I have the snidey slowsider on 'ignore'.
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irie wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:59 pm
Indeed, just a bit tricky given that I kitesurf on the sea which is 9+ miles from home. Also ride a mountain bike on the South Downs 6+ miles from home so doing that at home is equally tricky.
Put wheels on the board thingy. Its getting a big thing here now in East Lothian. Either that we are on some best spots location list But an area called Longniddry Bents at car park three is very popular with kite surfing.
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Felix wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:25 pm Longniddry Bents at car park three
I don’t like the sound of those guys.
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JackyJoll wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:30 pm
Felix wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:25 pm Longniddry Bents at car park three
I don’t like the sound of those guys.
Lol. The other two car parks are well known dogging sites