Which sporty road bike (was bike consolidation)

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Which of these for predominantly a road bike but will probably get used on track...

KTM RC8 (Probably first gen but might stretch to a later one)
5
26%
Aprilia RSV1000 Factory
5
26%
Suzuki GSXR1000 (Probably around 2016)
4
21%
Kawasaki ZX10R (Post 2008)
2
11%
Yamaha R6
0
No votes
CBR600RR (probably the most fun I've had on a bike but this was a long time ago)
0
No votes
Triumph 675 Daytona
3
16%
 
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What’s up with the Yamaha?
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dern wrote: Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:05 pm What’s up with the Yamaha?
Swingarm adjuster issue. Got to fit a new swingarm. If you're bored I can supply evening beer
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Happy to help. Have you a means to lift the back and remove the swing arm? Have you got to fit the bearings too? Never done one before but how hard can it be?
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dern wrote: Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:28 pm Happy to help. Have you a means to lift the back and remove the swing arm? Have you got to fit the bearings too? Never done one before but how hard can it be?
Lifting will be fine, bearings all in place. Anyway, back to the 1290, they're bloody awesome!
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Seems like a good bet, we'll see on the test ride. Premier are pretty good I've found. They sorted out the deal with the 1190 quickly and the bike has been pretty much perfect.

Definitely happy to help with the swingarm though. If you have the bearings installed and a lift it should be easy. Couple of hours maybe... probably. Free all day sunday and evenings, we're going shopping tomorrow, which sucks but I did spend all today on the bike which was pretty good.

I adjusted the chain on the 950 so the gearbox was a lot better so I enjoyed the ride a lot more than last time. Still not a keeper though.
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950SM has been sold. Deposit placed on this subject to a test ride...

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I can see a pipe, saddle, screen, crash protection, tail tidy, any other goodies?
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Don't know how committed you are to the 1290 SuperDuke, but this will be up for sale very soon...

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Only reason is that I am picking up an immaculate late model RC8R on a 14 plate to replace it... I've had a 1290 Superduke GT, I've ridden all of the direct competition... Not sure what your driving factors are, but if you want the most raw, rewarding and exhilarating bike you could possibly ride (whilst at the same time making a decent fist of actually being half comfortable), then the RC8 really is the only answer! The 1290 Superduke's are impressive bits of kit, but the "Beast" moniker seems somewhat misplaced as although absolute torque monsters, they are that bit more refined and user friendly (rider aids, much heavier flywheel and crank etc.) than the RC8... Just did 120 miles on my RC8 earlier today, first time I'd ridden it in anger in a long while, and it totally blew me away once more! An absolutely staggering bike... For sure, there are quicker bikes, bikes that are easier to ride etc... But if you just want the biggest, most shit-eating grin possible on the right roads stringing a load of corners together and you relish the mechanical feel of a big capacity V-Twin with zero rider aids and the opportunity to perfect your down-blipping for the perfect gear changes, accept no substitute!

Honestly... An easy bike to ride it is not. As an engaging, all encompassing experience that is about as highly rewarding as they come when you get it right, little else comes close.

FWIW mine is an 08 bike on a 10 plate, 11.5k miles, lots of the usual RC8 foibles fixed (softer rear spring fitted, Puig screen, softer throttle cam). The only issue is the tank could do with a refurb as sadly, ethanol has taken its toll on the finish of the tank... But otherwise the bike is near mint.
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That's a nice bike. I'm going to test ride the 1290 on Thursday and we'll see where that takes us. When are you planning on selling it and how much will you be asking? You can PM me the price if you'd prefer. Thanks
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mboy wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 11:56 pm Don't know how committed you are to the 1290 SuperDuke, but this will be up for sale very soon...

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Only reason is that I am picking up an immaculate late model RC8R on a 14 plate to replace it... I've had a 1290 Superduke GT, I've ridden all of the direct competition... Not sure what your driving factors are, but if you want the most raw, rewarding and exhilarating bike you could possibly ride (whilst at the same time making a decent fist of actually being half comfortable), then the RC8 really is the only answer! The 1290 Superduke's are impressive bits of kit, but the "Beast" moniker seems somewhat misplaced as although absolute torque monsters, they are that bit more refined and user friendly (rider aids, much heavier flywheel and crank etc.) than the RC8... Just did 120 miles on my RC8 earlier today, first time I'd ridden it in anger in a long while, and it totally blew me away once more! An absolutely staggering bike... For sure, there are quicker bikes, bikes that are easier to ride etc... But if you just want the biggest, most shit-eating grin possible on the right roads stringing a load of corners together and you relish the mechanical feel of a big capacity V-Twin with zero rider aids and the opportunity to perfect your down-blipping for the perfect gear changes, accept no substitute!

Honestly... An easy bike to ride it is not. As an engaging, all encompassing experience that is about as highly rewarding as they come when you get it right, little else comes close.

FWIW mine is an 08 bike on a 10 plate, 11.5k miles, lots of the usual RC8 foibles fixed (softer rear spring fitted, Puig screen, softer throttle cam). The only issue is the tank could do with a refurb as sadly, ethanol has taken its toll on the finish of the tank... But otherwise the bike is near mint.
I owned an RC8 and an RC8R at the same time. The riding ergonomics were the same (once I had adjusted the bars, footpegs and subframe on each to the same settings), but the R was so much better to ride with better suspension and power delivery.

If you like the 8, you should like the R more
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Whysub wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 11:13 am I owned an RC8 and an RC8R at the same time. The riding ergonomics were the same (once I had adjusted the bars, footpegs and subframe on each to the same settings), but the R was so much better to ride with better suspension and power delivery.

If you like the 8, you should like the R more
I'm expecting to like the R even more, but I am also putting in several £thousand more for very little return to be fair... That said, the R will be the collector's bike, so...

As it stands, my RC8 has had a few tweaks to bring it closer to an R anyway. The biggest difference was junking the 110Nm rear shock spring for a 95Nm (which is still firm, but at 92kg in my birthday suit I feared the 85Nm spring might be a touch soft) and getting the suspension setup properly (Tillits in Woodmancote near Cheltenham were exceptional here!). My bike was horrid to ride when I got it, like a hardtail almost, the fork was divey with no control and the shock barely moved! Now it's superbly balanced, and though not a magic carpet ride, is very confidence inspiring to push on.

The throttle tube has a slightly less aggressive cam fitted to make it a little softer on initial pickup too, which helps. Have fitted a 38T rear sprocket in place of the stock 37T, which sounds like very little but crucially it makes 3rd gear useable in 30mph zones and 6th is genuinely useable down to 50mph too.

I actually really quite like the minimal flywheel effect on the stock RC8 motor though, having to give it quite a few revs to pull away without stalling is a minor inconvenience yes, but the reward is absolutely instant throttle response at all times.

dern I will PM you.
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@mboy

That is lovely - been finding myself hankering after them. Like the Ducati 999, they are aging very well
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I have a dart player physique, so the stock suspension on the 8 suited me fine, but my thinner brother found it a bit firm. The suspension on mine was set up by a friend of a friend who raced his a few times.

I also had the softer profile throttle tube on the 8, a mod that I didn't do on the R, as that seemed so much easier to pull away from a standstill on.

I'd love another one, but never seen one over here, although I know there is one on the road around Alicante.
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mboy wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 11:56 pm Don't know how committed you are to the 1290 SuperDuke, but this will be up for sale very soon...

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Only reason is that I am picking up an immaculate late model RC8R on a 14 plate to replace it... I've had a 1290 Superduke GT, I've ridden all of the direct competition... Not sure what your driving factors are, but if you want the most raw, rewarding and exhilarating bike you could possibly ride (whilst at the same time making a decent fist of actually being half comfortable), then the RC8 really is the only answer! The 1290 Superduke's are impressive bits of kit, but the "Beast" moniker seems somewhat misplaced as although absolute torque monsters, they are that bit more refined and user friendly (rider aids, much heavier flywheel and crank etc.) than the RC8... Just did 120 miles on my RC8 earlier today, first time I'd ridden it in anger in a long while, and it totally blew me away once more! An absolutely staggering bike... For sure, there are quicker bikes, bikes that are easier to ride etc... But if you just want the biggest, most shit-eating grin possible on the right roads stringing a load of corners together and you relish the mechanical feel of a big capacity V-Twin with zero rider aids and the opportunity to perfect your down-blipping for the perfect gear changes, accept no substitute!

Honestly... An easy bike to ride it is not. As an engaging, all encompassing experience that is about as highly rewarding as they come when you get it right, little else comes close.

FWIW mine is an 08 bike on a 10 plate, 11.5k miles, lots of the usual RC8 foibles fixed (softer rear spring fitted, Puig screen, softer throttle cam). The only issue is the tank could do with a refurb as sadly, ethanol has taken its toll on the finish of the tank... But otherwise the bike is near mint.
Sounds lovely, I've always fancied one and I could easily see that in my garage if @dern doesn't take it :thumbup:
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Whysub wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 9:35 pm I have a dart player physique, so the stock suspension on the 8 suited me fine, but my thinner brother found it a bit firm. The suspension on mine was set up by a friend of a friend who raced his a few times.

I also had the softer profile throttle tube on the 8, a mod that I didn't do on the R, as that seemed so much easier to pull away from a standstill on.

I'd love another one, but never seen one over here, although I know there is one on the road around Alicante.
I'm the wrong side of 90kg, but the stock 110Nm spring would have required my GF to ride pillion constantly to get anywhere near using all of the travel! :lol:

The 95Nm spring is still seriously firm, albeit manageable. I can understand why lighter riders need the 85Nm spring for sure (ironically, the spring rate that modern 1290 Superdukes come with stock).

The R doesn't need a softer throttle, so I am told. It's got a slightly heavier flywheel and softer throttle mapping at the lower end that negates the need for it. The stock 8 needs lots of revs pulling away so you don't stall it for sure, the exact opposite of the 1290 SDGT I had that would pull away at tickover!
Tricky wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 9:44 pm
Sounds lovely, I've always fancied one and I could easily see that in my garage if @dern doesn't take it :thumbup:
By all means feel free to drop me a PM if you're genuinely interested.
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mboy wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 11:42 pm
By all means feel free to drop me a PM if you're genuinely interested.
He doesn't do pretend interested when it comes to buying bikes :D
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Yamaha rocket 3
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dern wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 1:10 am 950SM has been sold. Deposit placed on this subject to a test ride...

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Excited then Dern ?

I'll see you up there mate :)
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Liked that a lot. Thanks for your navigation skills on the test ride, help me a great deal as my sense of direction is crap.

Picking it up (or they're dropping it off) next week once it's had a service I guess, the baffle found and the alarm thrown in the bin.

Very powerful bike but very light and nimble, loved it. Slightly odd to ride through 30s as there's a bit of throttle shunt but going up or down a gear sorts it. Everything else about the bike is superb and probably suits me on the roads I ride than another litre sports bike.

Weirdly didn't pop and bang at all but the 1190 with an aftermarket can does quite a lot.
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dern wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 12:14 pm Liked that a lot. Thanks for your navigation skills on the test ride, help me a great deal as my sense of direction is crap.

Picking it up (or they're dropping it off) next week once it's had a service I guess, the baffle found and the alarm thrown in the bin.

Very powerful bike but very light and nimble, loved it. Slightly odd to ride through 30s as there's a bit of throttle shunt but going up or down a gear sorts it. Everything else about the bike is superb and probably suits me on the roads I ride than another litre sports bike.

Weirdly didn't pop and bang at all but the 1190 with an aftermarket can does quite a lot.
Don't forget, it's a 150bhp twin, so the fuelling is always going to be a little tricky to manage at low rpm/speeds. You looked happy and pleased when you got off it though, which is all that matters really. Congratulations on the new toy !

I didn't know how far you wanted to go and i was honestly a bit struggling for time.