MotoGP round 2. Indonesia.

Discussions on your upcoming trackdays, discusions on WSB, MotoGP, BSB or even F1.
User avatar
weeksy
Site Admin
Posts: 23427
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:08 pm
Has thanked: 5452 times
Been thanked: 13097 times

MotoGP round 2. Indonesia.

Post by weeksy »

So then, we're onto round 2 on the dust B road that is Indonesia.

It didn't seem like anyone approved of pre-season testing there, so interesting to see how it goes.

I'm taking Marquez from Martin and a resurgent Miller to hit 3rd spot on the podium.
User avatar
Yorick
Posts: 16750
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:20 pm
Location: Paradise
Has thanked: 10271 times
Been thanked: 6887 times

Re: MotoGP round 2. Indonesia.

Post by Yorick »

Do they have to begin with M?
User avatar
weeksy
Site Admin
Posts: 23427
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:08 pm
Has thanked: 5452 times
Been thanked: 13097 times

Re: MotoGP round 2. Indonesia.

Post by weeksy »

Indonesian MotoGP: Michelin confirms 'modified' tyre allocation for Mandalika

Michelin calls up 'special casings' to control tyre temperatures during this weekend's Indonesian MotoGP at Mandalika.

Michelin has officially confirmed that it will supply a 'modified' tyre allocation to this weekend's Indonesian MotoGP, compared to last month's test.

By the end of MotoGP's dusty three-day Mandalika debut in February, it was highly rumoured that the faster soft compound rear tyre would be replaced for the race weekend.

Many, but not all riders, adjusted their race simulations accordingly, with Ducati's Francesco Bagnaia explaining:

"It's difficult to say who was the fastest because the worst tyre was the medium, but it is the only one they will bring for the race weekend, because they will not take the soft."

Upon confirming that the tyre allocation has indeed been altered for the inaugural Mandalika race weekend, Michelin Motorsport's Two-Wheel manager Piero Taramasso explained that the compounds will actually be the same but paired with a 'special casing'.

“The test days here were very positive from a tyre perspective, but we quickly realised that because of a combination of the new track surface, the fast layout and the high temperatures, that the tyres were being stressed too much and overheating," Taramasso said.
User avatar
Skub
Posts: 12171
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:32 pm
Location: Norn Iron
Has thanked: 9834 times
Been thanked: 10147 times

Re: MotoGP round 2. Indonesia.

Post by Skub »

If tyres are an issue,Marquez is known to be fast on worn out rubber. He may be the man to beat this weekend
"Be kind to past versions of yourself that didn't know what you know now."
Walt Whitman
https://soundcloud.com/skub1955
User avatar
G.P
Posts: 1944
Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:12 pm
Location: Wiltshire
Has thanked: 2029 times
Been thanked: 1310 times

Re: MotoGP round 2. Indonesia.

Post by G.P »

I reckon its a bit of a lottery, there's lots of confidence in some quarters and bewilderment in others. Friday's sessions with the tyres supplied will be really interesting.
I'm doubly interested because I want to get really well clued up across the whole grid as we (the wiltshire contigent) are off to portimao next month :thumbup: :thumbup:
User avatar
weeksy
Site Admin
Posts: 23427
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:08 pm
Has thanked: 5452 times
Been thanked: 13097 times

Re: MotoGP round 2. Indonesia.

Post by weeksy »

If you're wondering why the coverage isn't showing later today.... that's because

it's on now !!!

FP1 times
POS RIDER NAT TEAM TIME/DIFF LAP MAX
1 Pol Espargaro SPA Repsol Honda (RC213V) 1'33.499s 17/17 309k
2 Miguel Oliveira POR Red Bull KTM (RC16) +0.044s 22/22 307k
3 Marc Marquez SPA Repsol Honda (RC213V) +0.079s 16/16 307k
4 Franco Morbidelli ITA Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1) +0.382s 16/19 303k
5 Johann Zarco FRA Pramac Ducati (GP22) +0.743s 20/20 309k
6 Aleix Espargaro SPA Aprilia Racing (RS-GP) +0.753s 14/15 308k
7 Brad Binder RSA Red Bull KTM (RC16) +0.776s 20/21 307k
8 Enea Bastianini ITA Gresini Ducati (GP21) +0.828s 17/17 309k
9 Francesco Bagnaia ITA Ducati Lenovo (GP22) +0.858s 21/21 306k
10 Joan Mir SPA Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) +0.980s 18/18 306k
11 Jack Miller AUS Ducati Lenovo (GP22) +1.063s 19/20 305k
12 Andrea Dovizioso ITA WithU Yamaha RNF (YZR-M1) +1.093s 16/18 303k
13 Raul Fernandez SPA KTM Tech3 (RC16)* +1.177s 18/19 305k
14 Takaaki Nakagami JPN LCR Honda (RC213V) +1.208s 16/16 307k
15 Maverick Viñales SPA Aprilia Racing (RS-GP) +1.216s 20/21 309k
16 Fabio Quartararo FRA Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1) +1.294s 19/21 302k
17 Alex Rins SPA Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) +1.394s 21/21 306k
18 Alex Marquez SPA LCR Honda (RC213V) +1.398s 17/18 305k
19 Remy Gardner AUS KTM Tech3 (RC16)* +1.687s 18/18 302k
20 Marco Bezzecchi ITA Mooney VR46 Ducati (GP21)* +1.759s 21/21 306k
21 Jorge Martin SPA Pramac Ducati (GP22) +2.026s 17/17 304k
22 Luca Marini ITA Mooney VR46 Ducati (GP22) +3.272s 18/18 302k
23 Fabio Di Giannantonio ITA Gresini Ducati (GP21)* +3.339s 19/19 303k
24 Darryn Binder RSA WithU Yamaha RNF (YZR-M1)* +3.617s 18/19 303k
User avatar
weeksy
Site Admin
Posts: 23427
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:08 pm
Has thanked: 5452 times
Been thanked: 13097 times

Re: MotoGP round 2. Indonesia.

Post by weeksy »

Lowes topped the time-sheets in FP1 and currently top in FP2.

Here's FP1
POS RIDER NAT TEAM BIKE TIME
1 Sam Lowes GBR Elf Marc VDS Racing Team (Kalex) 1m 44.439s
2 Joe Roberts USA Italtrans Racing Team (Kalex) 1m 45.482s
3 Tony Arbolino ITA Elf Marc VDS Racing Team (Kalex) 1m 46.848s
4 Celestino Vietti ITA Mooney VR46 Racing Team (Kalex) 1m 47.062s
5 Jake Dixon GBR Inde GASGAS Aspar Team (Kalex) 1m 47.342s
6 Fermín Aldeguer SPA MB Conveyors Speed Up (Boscoscuro) 1m 47.354s
7 Alessandro Zaccone ITA Gresini Racing Moto2 (Kalex) 1m 47.551s
8 Aron Canet SPA Flexbox HP40 (Kalex) 1m 47.710s
9 Sean Dylan Kelly USA American Racing (Kalex) 1m 47.717s
10 Romano Fenati ITA MB Conveyors Speed Up (Boscoscuro) 1m 47.875s
11 Pedro Acosta SPA Red Bull KTM Ajo (Kalex) 1m 47.952s
12 Augusto Fernandez SPA Red Bull KTM Ajo (Kalex) 1m 48.324s
13 Jorge Navarro SPA Flexbox HP40 (Kalex) 1m 48.438s
14 Jeremy Alcoba SPA Liqui Moly Intact GP (Kalex) 1m 48.582s
15 Cameron Beaubier USA American Racing (Kalex) 1m 48.885s
16 Marcos Ramirez SPA MV Agusta Forward Racing (MV Agusta) 1m 48.955s
17 Ai Ogura JPN IDEMITSU Honda Team Asia (Kalex) 1m 49.070s
18 Barry Baltus BEL RW Racing GP (Kalex) 1m 49.533s
19 Simone Corsi ITA MV Agusta Forward Racing (MV Agusta) 1m 49.688s
20 Albert Arenas SPA Inde GASGAS Aspar Team (Kalex) 1m 50.064s
21 Niccolò Antonelli ITA Mooney VR46 Racing Team (Kalex) 1m 50.214s
22 Marcel Schrotter GER Liqui Moly Intact GP (Kalex) 1m 50.304s
23 Zonta Van Den Goorbergh NED RW Racing GP (Kalex) 1m 50.646s
24 Somkiat Chantra THA IDEMITSU Honda Team Asia (Kalex) 1m 51.096s
25 Gabriel Rodrigo ARG Pertamina Mandalika SAG Team (Kalex) 1m 51.376s
26 Manuel Gonzalez SPA Yamaha VR46 Master Camp Team (Kalex) 1m 52.576s
27 Bo Bendsneyder NED Pertamina Mandalika SAG Team (Kalex) 1m 53.251s
28 Keminth Kubo THA Yamaha VR46 Master Camp Team (Kalex) 1m 53.439s
29 Filip Salac CZE Gresini Racing Moto2 (Kalex) 1m 53.488s
30 Lorenzo Dalla Porta ITA Italtrans Racing Team (Kalex) 1m 54.324s
User avatar
weeksy
Site Admin
Posts: 23427
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:08 pm
Has thanked: 5452 times
Been thanked: 13097 times

Re: MotoGP round 2. Indonesia.

Post by weeksy »

Wow, JAke Dixon top in FP2.... Lowes 3rd.
User avatar
weeksy
Site Admin
Posts: 23427
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:08 pm
Has thanked: 5452 times
Been thanked: 13097 times

Re: MotoGP round 2. Indonesia.

Post by weeksy »

FP2 starting now. With rain due on Saturday this is likely to be qualifying type session.
User avatar
Yorick
Posts: 16750
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:20 pm
Location: Paradise
Has thanked: 10271 times
Been thanked: 6887 times

Re: MotoGP round 2. Indonesia.

Post by Yorick »

Wow. Cool FP2 :)

2 ex champs 20th and 22nd.
User avatar
mangocrazy
Posts: 6920
Joined: Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:58 pm
Has thanked: 2407 times
Been thanked: 3635 times

Re: MotoGP round 2. Indonesia.

Post by mangocrazy »

Not seen any actual practice footage, but Crash.net is reporting that MM93 was showing signs of desperation at his lack of qualifying progress and over-riding the bike leading to two practice crashes. As a result he's only qualified in 14th place.

Mandalika_grid_2022_MotoGP.JPG
Mandalika_grid_2022_MotoGP.JPG (136.65 KiB) Viewed 201 times
There is no cloud, just somebody else's computer.
User avatar
wull
Posts: 3065
Joined: Sun Aug 15, 2021 6:09 pm
Location: Alloa
Has thanked: 880 times
Been thanked: 1545 times

Re: MotoGP round 2. Indonesia.

Post by wull »

Well done Jake Dixon




INDONESIA MOTO2 GRAND PRIX, MANDALIKA - QUALIFYING RESULTS
POS RIDER NAT TEAM BIKE TIME
1 Jake Dixon GBR Inde GASGAS Aspar Team (Kalex) 1m 35.799s
2 Augusto Fernandez SPA Red Bull KTM Ajo (Kalex) 1m 35.901s
3 Sam Lowes GBR Elf Marc VDS Racing Team (Kalex) 1m 35.953s
4 Somkiat Chantra THA IDEMITSU Honda Team Asia (Kalex) 1m 36.260s
5 Bo Bendsneyder NED Pertamina Mandalika SAG Team (Kalex) 1m 36.337s
6 Albert Arenas SPA Inde GASGAS Aspar Team (Kalex) 1m 36.581s
7 Celestino Vietti ITA Mooney VR46 Racing Team (Kalex) 1m 36.588s
8 Tony Arbolino ITA Elf Marc VDS Racing Team (Kalex) 1m 36.657s
9 Simone Corsi ITA MV Agusta Forward Racing (Agusta) 1m 36.665s
10 Pedro Acosta SPA Red Bull KTM Ajo (Kalex) 1m 36.751s
11 Cameron Beaubier USA American Racing (Kalex) 1m 36.900s
12 Fermín Aldeguer SPA MB Conveyors Speed Up (Boscoscuro) 1m 37.006s
13 Aron Canet SPA Flexbox HP40 (Kalex) 1m 37.028s
14 Marcos Ramirez SPA MV Agusta Forward Racing (Agusta) 1m 37.034s
15 Jeremy Alcoba SPA Liqui Moly Intact GP (Kalex) 1m 37.072s
16 Romano Fenati ITA MB Conveyors Speed Up (Boscoscuro) 1m 37.312s
17 Jorge Navarro SPA Flexbox HP40 (Kalex) No Time
18 Manuel Gonzalez SPA Yamaha VR46 Master Camp Team (Kalex) No Time
19 Jeremy Alcoba SPA Liqui Moly Intact GP (Kalex) 1m 36.870s
20 Simone Corsi ITA MV Agusta Forward Racing (MV Agusta) 1m 36.882s
21 Joe Roberts USA Italtrans Racing Team (Kalex) 1m 36.905s
22 Barry Baltus BEL RW Racing GP (Kalex) 1m 36.908s
23 Ai Ogura JPN IDEMITSU Honda Team Asia (Kalex) 1m 36.913s
24 Marcel Schrotter GER Liqui Moly Intact GP (Kalex) 1m 37.033s
25 Filip Salac CZE Gresini Racing Moto2 (Kalex) 1m 37.218s
26 Gabriel Rodrigo ARG Pertamina Mandalika SAG Team (Kalex) 1m 37.436s
27 Zonta Van Den Goorbergh NED RW Racing GP (Kalex) 1m 37.582s
28 Keminth Kubo THA Yamaha VR46 Master Camp Team (Kalex) 1m 37.625s
29 Lorenzo Dalla Porta ITA Italtrans Racing Team (Kalex) 1m 37.843s
30 Niccolò Antonelli ITA Mooney VR46 Racing Team (Kalex) 1m 38.066s
31 Alessandro Zaccone ITA Gresini Racing Moto2 (Kalex) 1m 38.609s
32 Sean Dylan Kelly USA American Racing (Kalex) No Time
User avatar
Skub
Posts: 12171
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:32 pm
Location: Norn Iron
Has thanked: 9834 times
Been thanked: 10147 times

Re: MotoGP round 2. Indonesia.

Post by Skub »

Epic qually session. Not much grip by the looks of it.
"Be kind to past versions of yourself that didn't know what you know now."
Walt Whitman
https://soundcloud.com/skub1955
User avatar
Yorick
Posts: 16750
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:20 pm
Location: Paradise
Has thanked: 10271 times
Been thanked: 6887 times

Re: MotoGP round 2. Indonesia.

Post by Yorick »

Just watched it all on catchup.

Jake Dixon Wowsers.
MM double Wowsers.
Suzi's chubby legs no Wowsers.
Fab Frog Wowsers
User avatar
wull
Posts: 3065
Joined: Sun Aug 15, 2021 6:09 pm
Location: Alloa
Has thanked: 880 times
Been thanked: 1545 times

Re: MotoGP round 2. Indonesia.

Post by wull »

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/99899 ... ian-motogp

Marc Marquez has been declared unfit to race in today's Indonesian MotoGP following a colossal accident in morning warm-up at Mandalika.

Marc Marquez has been declared unfit to race in today's Indonesian MotoGP following a colossal accident in morning warm-up at Mandalika.

Hospital checks subsequently revealed the Spaniard suffered a 'head concussion'.

"It's been strange because Marc had three big crashes and we have to understand why," Repsol Honda team manager Alberto Puig told Dorna's Simon Crafar.

"The crash today was brutal. We need to anaylse. They [Michelin] brought a different tyre here and we need to understand everything. Our rider crashed and we want to understand [why]."


Image
User avatar
mangocrazy
Posts: 6920
Joined: Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:58 pm
Has thanked: 2407 times
Been thanked: 3635 times

Re: MotoGP round 2. Indonesia.

Post by mangocrazy »

Im getting worried by MM. I would have hoped that his extended time out from the sport due to crash damage might have given him pause to reflect. Apparently not. If he carries on like this there's a risk that he'll sideline himself permanently. I know this risk is always present for all riders, but MM takes it to another level.
There is no cloud, just somebody else's computer.
User avatar
Skub
Posts: 12171
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:32 pm
Location: Norn Iron
Has thanked: 9834 times
Been thanked: 10147 times

Re: MotoGP round 2. Indonesia.

Post by Skub »

mangocrazy wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 1:12 pm Im getting worried by MM. I would have hoped that his extended time out from the sport due to crash damage might have given him pause to reflect. Apparently not. If he carries on like this there's a risk that he'll sideline himself permanently. I know this risk is always present for all riders, but MM takes it to another level.
I know a rugby international who was sidelined for months with severe concussion. It'll be interesting to see how many races MM misses.
"Be kind to past versions of yourself that didn't know what you know now."
Walt Whitman
https://soundcloud.com/skub1955
User avatar
G.P
Posts: 1944
Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:12 pm
Location: Wiltshire
Has thanked: 2029 times
Been thanked: 1310 times

Re: MotoGP round 2. Indonesia.

Post by G.P »

I was up all night with man flu so watched it all.At one point I thought there might not be a main event, but actually, it was a really interesting race, despite the wet conditions. Fabio must be really chuffed.

MM's high side was a strange one, 110 mph and not in a place you'd have thought it would happen, I reckon it really took him by surprise rather than him testing where the limit was. Scary stuff.
User avatar
mangocrazy
Posts: 6920
Joined: Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:58 pm
Has thanked: 2407 times
Been thanked: 3635 times

Re: MotoGP round 2. Indonesia.

Post by mangocrazy »

At least with all that rain they wouldn't be worrying about dust off the racing line...

MM's highside looked really vicious. No wonder Puig is concerned.
There is no cloud, just somebody else's computer.
User avatar
Skub
Posts: 12171
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:32 pm
Location: Norn Iron
Has thanked: 9834 times
Been thanked: 10147 times

Re: MotoGP round 2. Indonesia.

Post by Skub »

G.P wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 3:20 pm I was up all night with man flu so watched it all.At one point I thought there might not be a main event, but actually, it was a really interesting race, despite the wet conditions. Fabio must be really chuffed.
Yeah,three good races,even the moto2 had some good diced. Dixon looked pleased with his days work!
"Be kind to past versions of yourself that didn't know what you know now."
Walt Whitman
https://soundcloud.com/skub1955