Covid restrictions - are you adhering or not?

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Have you been sticking rigidly to the rules, with no ifs, buts, or conditions?

Yes, I've followed to the letter.
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Kind of, I'm being sensible and reducing contact with people.
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58%
No, I'm carrying on regardless
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-60653946

A major study of vaccine side-effects in the US found no link between two Covid jabs and the number of deaths recorded after vaccination.
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About 4,500 deaths were recorded in the six months to June 2021, more than 80% among people aged 60 and over.

"The rapid pace at which Covid-19 vaccines were administered under emergency use, especially among older populations, was unprecedented," the CDC's Dr David Shay said.

"Due to their age, this group already has a higher baseline mortality rate than the general population and our results follow similar patterns of death rates for people in this age group following other adult vaccinations."
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Horse wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 7:42 am https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-60653946

A major study of vaccine side-effects in the US found no link between two Covid jabs and the number of deaths recorded after vaccination.
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About 4,500 deaths were recorded in the six months to June 2021, more than 80% among people aged 60 and over.

"The rapid pace at which Covid-19 vaccines were administered under emergency use, especially among older populations, was unprecedented," the CDC's Dr David Shay said.

"Due to their age, this group already has a higher baseline mortality rate than the general population and our results follow similar patterns of death rates for people in this age group following other adult vaccinations."
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slowsider wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 8:05 am Was their brian smaller too?
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We’ve just reopened two covid wards. Covid admissions are higher than they were in January.
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Docca wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 3:06 pm We’ve just reopened two covid wards. Covid admissions are higher than they were in January.
Are they wards for people who happen to have covid or wards because of covid?
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Because of covid. Numbers are definitely up.
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Docca wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 11:23 pm Because of covid. Numbers are definitely up.
I went into the office yesterday and in Harrow it definitely seems like most people are going about their day like pre covid. And with the war there's almost no news about covid anymore so guess numbers will be up.

I must admit having 3 vaccines and having had mild covid I've become a bit blasé not cos I'm not treating covid as serious as before but mainly due to fatigue with it all. After a certain amount of time I think you begin to view it differently rightly or not esp being luckily enough to have had a household of mild cases. I was still wearing a mask in Morrison's yesterday lunchtime and still debugged my hands several times but I'm definitely not as careful as before.
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Docca wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 3:06 pm We’ve just reopened two covid wards. Covid admissions are higher than they were in January.
When compared to the 10 year average what are current 'flu complication admissions looking like?
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I was on the bus yesterday as having a meal and drink with friends. Mask on for me. Easy enough to do. I noticed a couple of elderly people wearing masks, but the rest don't. I still wear a mask while distributing Holy Communion as I am very close to people then and I will have used alcohol gel on my hands before touching the consecrated wafers.
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irie wrote: Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:02 pm
Docca wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 3:06 pm We’ve just reopened two covid wards. Covid admissions are higher than they were in January.
When compared to the 10 year average what are current 'flu complication admissions looking like?

We don’t tend to make flu-only wards.

We have seen a large increase in the uptake of flu vaccines too
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Docca wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:38 am
irie wrote: Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:02 pm
Docca wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 3:06 pm We’ve just reopened two covid wards. Covid admissions are higher than they were in January.
When compared to the 10 year average what are current 'flu complication admissions looking like?
We don’t tend to make flu-only wards.

We have seen a large increase in the uptake of flu vaccines too
I did not ask about "flu-only wards".

This is what I asked.
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irie wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 11:55 am
Docca wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:38 am
irie wrote: Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:02 pm

When compared to the 10 year average what are current 'flu complication admissions looking like?
We don’t tend to make flu-only wards.

We have seen a large increase in the uptake of flu vaccines too
I did not ask about "flu-only wards".

This is what I asked.
I know exactly what you asked, which is why you got the response you did.
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Potter wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:56 am Are wards opening and closing that fast? I was looking at the stats yesterday because I might be travelling and the numbers at the start of Feb were >100k, then they dipped to IIRC about 30k and now they're back up to (IIRC 40k).

I don't know about hospitalisations although I assumed it would be more in Feb based on infection rate.
I also seem to remember Feb/March were always the busiest months for the "winter" demand on beds?
Yeah- Feb and March are, but this has been the warmest winter ever and we’ve not had the same spike of broken hips etc.

Seasonal variation aside, we are still seeing far higher referral rates for mental health than ever before across all ages. Then there is the covid admissions on top of that. It’s certainly not breaking point, but hospitalisations are up for covid. Be interesting to see how it plays out
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Docca wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:38 pm
irie wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 11:55 am
Docca wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:38 am
We don’t tend to make flu-only wards.

We have seen a large increase in the uptake of flu vaccines too
I did not ask about "flu-only wards".

This is what I asked.
I know exactly what you asked, which is why you got the response you did.
You dodged answering the question either because you didn't know or you did know and didn't want to say. Or perhaps you do know and are not allowed to say. Whatever the reason, pretty evasive.
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irie wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 5:29 pm
Docca wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:38 pm
irie wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 11:55 am

I did not ask about "flu-only wards".

This is what I asked.
I know exactly what you asked, which is why you got the response you did.
Bbbbbut...you haven't given me an answer that I wanted in order to help me try to make a point.
FTFY :lol:
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Count Steer wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:50 pm
irie wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 5:29 pm
Docca wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:38 pm
I know exactly what you asked, which is why you got the response you did.
Bbbbbut...you haven't given me an answer that I wanted in order to help me try to make a point.
FTFY :lol:
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An honest answer, whatever it was, would have been fine.
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irie wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:02 pm
Count Steer wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:50 pm
irie wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 5:29 pm

Bbbbbut...you haven't given me an answer that I wanted in order to help me try to make a point.
FTFY :lol:
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An honest answer, whatever it was, would have been fine.
I don't know the answer but I understand that in January, excess deaths were running at 6.1% below the 5 year average thanks, in part, to reduced flu deaths arising from vaccination uptake and reduced transmission due to behavioural changes (hygiene, masks? etc). Don't have much granularity on data though obvs. Flu/pneumonia related deaths in Jan 22 were 35.4/100k vs 5 year average of 72.6. Biggest killer is still dementia/Alzheimers related. There was more stuff in an Economist article but I recycled that issue. :(
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Count Steer wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 9:14 pm I don't know the answer but I understand that in January, excess deaths were running at 6.1% below the 5 year average thanks, in part, to reduced flu deaths arising from vaccination uptake and reduced transmission due to behavioural changes (hygiene, masks? etc). Don't have much granularity on data though obvs. Flu/pneumonia related deaths in Jan 22 were 35.4/100k vs 5 year average of 72.6. Biggest killer is still dementia/Alzheimers related. There was more stuff in an Economist article but I recycled that issue. :(
Thanks for that, but it answers a question I did not ask.
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irie wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:03 am
Count Steer wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 9:14 pm I don't know the answer but I understand that in January, excess deaths were running at 6.1% below the 5 year average thanks, in part, to reduced flu deaths arising from vaccination uptake and reduced transmission due to behavioural changes (hygiene, masks? etc). Don't have much granularity on data though obvs. Flu/pneumonia related deaths in Jan 22 were 35.4/100k vs 5 year average of 72.6. Biggest killer is still dementia/Alzheimers related. There was more stuff in an Economist article but I recycled that issue. :(
Thanks for that, but it answers a question I did not ask.
True, but you aren't the only person that will read it and it's relevant to the general topic. March figures will be interesting as it looks like they're rising again (as Docca's post suggests) post the abandoning of restrictions. I'll probably post the data when it's available too.
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Count Steer wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 7:21 amMarch figures will be interesting as it looks like they're rising again (as Docca's post suggests) post the abandoning of restrictions.
As an example, our local news yesterday:

https://www.newburytoday.co.uk/news/cov ... s-9243970/

Covid-19 infections in England, tracked by one of the country's biggest studies, are at their second highest level since recording began in 2020.

Just weeks before the country moves away from all final coronavirus restrictions on April 1, the Government-backed REACT-1 project has picked up its second highest rate of prevalence of the virus since it began monitoring infections at the start of the pandemic.

More than 94,000 volunteers were swabbed for the latest examination between February 8 and March 1 – recording a prevalence in England of 2.88 per cent or approximately one in every 35 people.

While the figure is significantly down on the 4.41 per cent recorded between January 5 and January 20 – it remains the second highest result in two years.

While cases look to be falling in the majority of age groups infection levels are showing signs of increasing again in those aged 55 and over – a section of the population which would be among the first to receive booster jabs last year.
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